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Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 27th, '11, 19:59

OutKast - Return Of The G

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXSWwsrSZ9o

It's absolutely amazingly well structured. Blows me away every time.

Andre's verses is split into, almost, stanzas - each stanza switches between a general point on society, followed by one specific to OutKast (mainly attacking the criticism they'd recieved after ATLiens). It's so great because it represents immediately there reasons for the album (Aquemini) in such an amazing juxtaposition of bars.

Then Big Boi's first couple of bars links directly to some of Andre's complaints ("ready to rob, steal and kill"), and he does the same thing as Andre just in a more subtle way, linking the general and specific points so effortlessly you barely even notice it.

It's one of my favourite songs ever, and structurally, my favourite.

Any others?
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Satire » Mar 27th, '11, 20:00

Outkast sucks. Boring. Meh moments. Overrated. Space Sounds. Unoriginal.

Really though, that song is amazing. I haven't listened to it in so long.
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby dead prez » Mar 27th, '11, 20:08

The Takeover

He starts off the first verse, by giving Nas and Prodigy a warning not to fuck with him. Bascially bragging how big he is, and at the time he was an unstoppable force. Nas and Prodigy were basically irrelevant at the time Takeover dropped.

The second verse he trashes Prodigy, after this bandana P was never the same, and is supposedly one of the reasons P fell of so hard. He basically exposes him as a phony, and a wannabe gangsta.

The third verse trashes Nas as well, throwing out facts. (Not kindergarten insults) He uses the samples nicely as well, and exposes Nas as well.

Last verse he gives out a warning again, sort off like he's brushing the dirst off his shoulder and saying not to fuck with him. He ends it arrogantly saying that anyone else that wants a shot at him, won't even get a bar thrown at them.
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 27th, '11, 20:13

Lowkey & Logic - Relatives

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rgJdFcRRY

The best thing about this structurally is how each line from the two characters links to the previous one. Gives such a great direct comparison

Then the amazing ending - the cleverest part about it is the way in which both characters voices are used for "was my little sister dead on the floor" - although in the narrative it's the Iraqi's guy's sister, the use of both voice links you immediately to the chorus that follows - "one way or another, we're all relatives".
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby classthe_king » Mar 27th, '11, 20:15

I don't understand what you mean
You think your personal attacks make up for what you lack?
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Satire » Mar 27th, '11, 20:17

classthe_king wrote:I don't understand what you mean


The structure of rap songs. The placement of verses, the build up, the control of the story. It's the sequence of the lyrics, rather than the lyrics themselves.
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Master Chief » Mar 27th, '11, 20:26

dead prez wrote:The Takeover

He starts off the first verse, by giving Nas and Prodigy a warning not to fuck with him. Bascially bragging how big he is, and at the time he was an unstoppable force. Nas and Prodigy were basically irrelevant at the time Takeover dropped.

The second verse he trashes Prodigy, after this bandana P was never the same, and is supposedly one of the reasons P fell of so hard. He basically exposes him as a phony, and a wannabe gangsta.

The third verse trashes Nas as well, throwing out facts. (Not kindergarten insults) He uses the samples nicely as well, and exposes Nas as well.

Last verse he gives out a warning again, sort off like he's brushing the dirst off his shoulder and saying not to fuck with him. He ends it arrogantly saying that anyone else that wants a shot at him, won't even get a bar thrown at them.

This.

Takeover was the perfect diss but somehow Nas managed to win this beef.
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby 8milestyle » Mar 28th, '11, 02:17

First thing I though of was Dance With The Devil.

Or Stan.

But maybe a story song wasn't what you were thinking of. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby slimsoxshady » Mar 28th, '11, 04:09

Tech N9ne - Martini
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Mar 28th, '11, 14:47

Lose Yourself. :coffee:
The devil ain't on a level same as him!
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby KillahBee » Mar 28th, '11, 15:12

Every song mentioned so far are all great mentions, off the top of my head I'm not sure what my choice would be, but I'll thorw GZA - Label out there, perfectly structured considering the concept
Same sword they knight you they gon' good night you with
Sh.., Thats' only half if they like you
That ain't even the half what they might do
Don't believe me, ask Michael
See Martin, see Malcolm
You see Biggie, see Pac, see success and its outcome
See Jesus, see Judas; see Caesar, see Brutus
See success is like suicide
Suicide, it's a suicide
If you succeed, prepare to be crucified
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Mar 28th, '11, 15:17

Stan :whistle:
How can hip-hop be dead if Wu-Tang is forever?

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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Verses » Mar 28th, '11, 19:30

MikeNUFC wrote:Lowkey & Logic - Relatives

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rgJdFcRRY

The best thing about this structurally is how each line from the two characters links to the previous one. Gives such a great direct comparison

Then the amazing ending - the cleverest part about it is the way in which both characters voices are used for "was my little sister dead on the floor" - although in the narrative it's the Iraqi's guy's sister, the use of both voice links you immediately to the chorus that follows - "one way or another, we're all relatives".

:y: , definitely one of my favourite songs, period. Very cleverly crafted, and to me, extremely emotional. As you said, the comparison between the mindstates and feelings of both characters definitely grants you a great perspective.
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Raids-God » Mar 28th, '11, 20:51

MikeNUFC wrote:Lowkey & Logic - Relatives

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rgJdFcRRY

The best thing about this structurally is how each line from the two characters links to the previous one. Gives such a great direct comparison

Then the amazing ending - the cleverest part about it is the way in which both characters voices are used for "was my little sister dead on the floor" - although in the narrative it's the Iraqi's guy's sister, the use of both voice links you immediately to the chorus that follows - "one way or another, we're all relatives".


:worship: Him and Logic together are a Great team
They used the same Sorta sample on "Home is were the Heart it".
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Re: Most Well Structured Rap Song Ever?

Postby Raids-God » Mar 28th, '11, 20:54

Lowkey - Story to Tell pt.3

Im not gonna spoil the story just listen to it

Its also one of the best Story songs of all time
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