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Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby dR3 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:18

Tash8 wrote:
dR3 wrote:Beiber is very talented?

wat


how is he not? He is very talented at making songs for teenage girls. Maybe not for you, but life doesn't just revolve around you.

No he is just a good looking boy who "sings" for teen girls, something like the boy bends during the 90s. He'll be no one in 5 years.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 28th, '11, 23:18

How much talent does it take to sing a song you didn't write to a melody you didn't create over a beat you didn't make.

And he doesn't even do it well.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:21

dR3 wrote:No he is just a good looking boy who "sings" for teen girls, something like the boy bends during the 90s. He'll be no one in 5 years.


yeah ok, I didn't realize good looking boys who sing for teen girls were found 1 in 6 billion people. There is obviously much more to that.

classthe_king wrote:How much talent does it take to sing a song you didn't write to a melody you didn't create over a beat you didn't make.

And he doesn't even do it well.


There's a reason they ask justin to sing it, and not the person who actually wrote the melody or the beat, buddy.

and it goes back to what a mainstream artist is, and that it is much more than talent.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 28th, '11, 23:23

So his talent is being born good looking :unsure:
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:25

classthe_king wrote:So his talent is being born good looking :unsure:


you got that from what I said?

"and it goes back to what a mainstream artist is, and that it is much more than talent."

that is what I said, Go back and explain to me that logic that got you to post that "talent is being born good looking"
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby dR3 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:26

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dR3 wrote:No he is just a good looking boy who "sings" for teen girls, something like the boy bends during the 90s. He'll be no one in 5 years.


yeah ok, I didn't realize good looking boys who sing for teen girls were found 1 in 6 billion people. There is obviously much more to that.

That "much more" is good promotion. Nothing else.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby VenomBlackViper » Mar 28th, '11, 23:27

For the measly amount of talent he has theres literally millions of other people more talented then him out there. He's famous because he can give all the little 12 year old girls their first orgasm & make record companies a shit ton of money because they know how much "daddys willing to spend on his little girl". He has some talent & I won't deny that but definitely not enough for him to be famous at all let alone this famous.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 28th, '11, 23:31

Tash8 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:So his talent is being born good looking :unsure:


you got that from what I said?

"and it goes back to what a mainstream artist is, and that it is much more than talent."

that is what I said, Go back and explain to me that logic that got you to post that "talent is being born good looking"


So what is his talent then?

He didn't write the song
He didn't create the melody for it
He didn't produce the beat
His voice has been editted a ton

Where is the talent outside of him being appealling to teenage girls?
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:34

dR3 wrote:That "much more" is good promotion. Nothing else.


no it's not. You are blinded by ignorance if you truly believe that. There's 6 billion people in this world, you don't pick Justin out of all them because he's good looking and they, the labels, want to promote him.

VenomBlackViper wrote:For the measly amount of talent he has theres literally millions of other people more talented then him out there. He's famous because he can give all the little 12 year old girls there first orgasm & make record companies a shit ton of money because they know how much "daddys willing to spend on his little girl". He has some talent & I won't deny that but definitely not enough for him to be famous at all let alone this famous.


and I agree with you. Some famous people are famous for the wrong things, just look at Paris Hilton for that matter, or Kim Kard.

He's talented at what he does, and he has that charisma, personality and the good looks (that you guys keep mentioning) that makes him a good MAINSTREAM artist.

and like you said, there's MILLIONS of people with more talent than him. BUT there is NOT a million people who are more talented, more charismatic, more connected and better at what he does. There is not.

and yet again, I will point out that it goes back to what it really takes to be a mainstream artist. If talent is all it took to be a mainstream artist then you would see more talent on the radio, would you not?


So what is his talent then?

He didn't write the song
He didn't create the melody for it
He didn't produce the beat
His voice has been editted a ton

Where is the talent outside of him being appealling to teenage girls?


omg class, read my fuckin line again


"and it goes back to what a mainstream artist is, and that it is much more than talent."
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 28th, '11, 23:35

So you're agreeing that he has no talent.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:38

classthe_king wrote:So you're agreeing that he has no talent.


Nop. I am simply saying an abundance of talent is not gonna make you a mainstream artist. It's much more than that. That is all I am saying.

I, do though, agree that he is not the most talented person at what he does, and like venom said you can find a million people more talented, but like I said here and I'll quote myself so maybe for the last time it'll get through to you..

there's MILLIONS of people with more talent than him. BUT there is NOT a million people who are more talented, more charismatic, more connected and better at what he does. There is not.


oh and i'll add good looking to the list too.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 28th, '11, 23:39

So he's not as talented...which is what this thread is about. Nothing else you said matters.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Satire » Mar 28th, '11, 23:39

there's MILLIONS of people with more talent than him. BUT there is NOT a million people who are more talented, more charismatic, more connected...There is not.


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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Master Chief » Mar 28th, '11, 23:40

Satire wrote:
there's MILLIONS of people with more talent than him. BUT there is NOT a million people who are more talented, more charismatic, more connected...There is not.


Except me.

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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 28th, '11, 23:43

classthe_king wrote:So he's not as talented...which is what this thread is about. Nothing else you said matters.


no when I first posted, I said "I agree with the topic opener to a certain extent" and then I went on to explain that mainstream is not just about being talented.. From then on, YOU decided to quote me so therefore EVERYTHING I said matters. I also made the point that Justin Bieber was very talented and he is. He is not the most talented person in the world, but he does have a good voice and can make really catchy songs, that is a talent. His talent alone can not make him as famous as he is, it took a bunch of other things.
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