Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

[classthe_king]

No he's not talented lol we already went over this.

-He's good looking and therefore appealing to girls, that's not being talented
-He's well connected, that has nothing to do with talent
-He has charisma, which is basically saying he's gay

None of that is talent.

[dR3]

That "much more" is good promotion. Nothing else.

no it's not. You are blinded by ignorance if you truly believe that. There's 6 billion people in this world, you don't pick Justin out of all them because he's good looking and they, the labels, want to promote him.

Good looks + girly voice + love songs + good promotion = shitton of money. Why? Because that's all you need to become loved by little girls.

If he is still relevant in 5 years then I'll rest my case.

[VenomBlackViper]

I'm gonna put it this way, if there was no Justin Bieber there are millions of other little kids just like him that they could have marketed and sold the exact same way. Whether we like it or not there is a market for teen girls that the music industry takes advantage of that's why he's popular. Eminem has appealed to that demographic as well since 2000. The Justin Bieber hate is not because people are "jealous" of him it's because his music is horrible, mindless, cliche radio pop music. It's not hard to find a kid like him, he's just the current figurehead for the tween audience to shell out money for if they didn't discover him it would be someone else in the same exact position & we'd be debating over that kid right now.

[Satire]

Hey fags, remember these guys?



They were as talented as Justin Bieber.

[Tash8]

No he's not talented lol we already went over this.

-He's good looking and therefore appealing to girls, that's not being talented
-He's well connected, that has nothing to do with talent
-He has charisma, which is basically saying he's gay

None of that is talent.

That and SOME talent, not a lot but some, he not as talented as these great artists you adore but he is talented enough that with those other things you said, he can become a mainstream artist. Just like you said
here:

So he's not as talented...

Good looks + girly voice + love songs + good promotion = shitton of money. Why? Because that's all you need to become loved by little girls.

Good looks + girly voice + love songs + good promotion + some talent = shitton of money

there i fixed it for you, now we can agree. That is really all what it takes to become Justin Bieber and with all those things together, we can definitely agree there is not millions of people out there who can do what he is.

[mcZu]

With the proper marketing tools, you can sell anything, and I mean, ANYTHING. People are easily deceived, the simple fact that people walk around in brand names, just because it is a brand name, proves how easily people can be tricked into paying more money than necessary. Selling a tee for ten times as much as it cost them to produce is just ridiculous....

Pretty much the same thing applies to every industry, including the music industry. People that blow up don't blow up due to their talent, they blow up because they are marketable.

[classthe_king]

You could put a kid in choir for 2 years and he would have as much talent as Justin Bieber.

Your whole argument is a fail.

[dR3]

LOL you keep saying 'some talent'. What talent does he have?

[VenomBlackViper]

With the proper marketing tools, you can sell anything, and I mean, ANYTHING. People are easily deceived, the simple fact that people walk around in brand names, just because it is a brand name, proves how easily people can be tricked into paying more money than necessary. Selling a tee for ten times as much as it cost them to produce is just ridiculous....

Pretty much the same thing applies to every industry, including the music industry. People that blow up don't blow up due to their talent, they blow up because they are marketable.

This. At the end of the day hating on Bieber is like hating on a Ed Hardy shirt, you're hating the product rather then the people who manufacture/market it & the people retarded enough to buy it.

[FreeSpeech]

Freespeech said it takes just as much talent to make a catchy mainstream song as it does to make a great underground song and I said he was wrong. Get the fuck out if you don't know what you're talking about.

No I didn't idiot. I said it takes as much talent to make an incredible mainstream song as it does to make an incredible underground song. Follow your own advice McLovin..

[Tash8]

You could put a kid in choir for 2 years and he would have as much talent as Justin Bieber.

Your whole argument is a fail.

no you can not. You can't just suddenly have a good voice if you are put into choir for 2 years.

If that is the case, PLEASE explain to me why we don't have a shitload more of JBs running around?

LOL you keep saying 'some talent'. What talent does he have?

His voice is a talent

[classthe_king]

Because they only like to market one a time, then they'll move onto the next one. The Jonas Brothers are justin biebers, aaron carter is a justin bieber, the backstreet boys are all justin bieber, ect.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Freespeech said it takes just as much talent to make a catchy mainstream song as it does to make a great underground song and I said he was wrong. Get the fuck out if you don't know what you're talking about.

No I didn't idiot. I said it takes as much talent to make an incredible mainstream song as it does to make an incredible underground song. Follow your own advice McLovin..

I honestly think he just reads what he wants to read, and ignores anything else about a post.

[classthe_king]

Freespeech said it takes just as much talent to make a catchy mainstream song as it does to make a great underground song and I said he was wrong. Get the fuck out if you don't know what you're talking about.

No I didn't idiot. I said it takes as much talent to make an incredible mainstream song as it does to make an incredible underground song. Follow your own advice McLovin..

Well how many incredible mainstream songs do you actually see?

Case closed.

[dR3]

His voice? Are you serious? Have you heard him live? He is utter shit.