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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby dead prez » Mar 29th, '11, 05:42

That edited blue picture Satire posted, is supposedly him.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby classthe_king » Mar 29th, '11, 05:44

FreeSpeech wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Well it just comes down to what I said earlier. I love Hip-Hop and want it to be represented in a positive way. You obviously don't.

Again, way to be an assumptive douche. A shitload of rappers represent it in a positive way, but good news always takes the backburner.

And have the balls to post a pic, most of the regular users have. If you would, as you claim, say this stuff to my face, post your picture, it's the next best thing. I have...


Exactly, that's why I'm trying to make good news go to the front :facepalm


I've posted plenty of pictures, I actually posted one today lmfao

http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=100655&hilit=sentus
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby dead prez » Mar 29th, '11, 05:45

You look like my Criminology teacher's son, lol.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby classthe_king » Mar 29th, '11, 05:51

I take that as a compliment
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby dead prez » Mar 29th, '11, 05:53

Here's his facebook

http://www.facebook.com/update_security ... &sk=photos

He's all the way on the left.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby classthe_king » Mar 29th, '11, 05:59

The left? lolwut. I don't look like that kid at all.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby dead prez » Mar 29th, '11, 06:02

Eh, if his eyes were open and he used to have longer hair, but yeah that picture doesn't really resemble you that much.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby stillmatic » Mar 29th, '11, 08:32

One little point though...those guys are not rich. They're not even close to rich. They're not even comfortable. So I the point about "haters" only caring because those guys are rich is bogus.

Secondly, I did a little bit of research on this Waka dude, and homie compares himself to DMX, by saying he makes that "aggressive party music".

Is this dude a retard? Since when the fuck did DMX make party music? DMX was aggressive, probably the most aggressive artist in hip hop history (will never be topped) but Waka really trying to compare himself to Dark Man? Fucking idiot.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby NicoleEM » Mar 29th, '11, 11:40

Well..it's not only the listeners/fans fault for making them known.It's the artists we love that are promoting some of them.Examples?Twista,Jean Grae and Lil b,Talib Kweli and Bow Wow,Fif with Soulja and Wacka and some others i can't think off right now.I remember ppls reaction to Tech N9ne praising Weezy.It's like a trend these days,everyone collaborating with everyone lol.I do think they are just trying to help new artists and it's mostly based on the fact that they met them and seem cool ppl(see Tech meeting Weezy),but damn.I hate cutting songs cause i don't like a verse,like i did with Jean's and Twista's tracks.
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I could make an album with Justin Beiber Ted Nugent Yanni & Rebecca Black & it will still be more hiphop than any1 questioning me on twitter
u support my music so I respectfully respond. But complaining abt a song you've never heard is flawed logic if u claim to love music
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So we can't really blame them for making music and helping new rappers,either we like the tracks or not.
PS:who told ya they are rich?Do u really think they sell that many albums?neahh they are trying to make it just like anyone else.It's ur own choise if u wanna support or not.I choose not to support,nor to hate,i just don't listen lol.I find them really cocky and goofy,but that's just me.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby Kez » Mar 29th, '11, 11:59

Tash8 wrote:you guys are starting to piss me off

Soulja boy did not kill hip hop, if anything he helped expand it to a much stupider audience.

Waka is dope too, it takes a lot of balls to name urself that.


Now now Tash, I know that to you hip hop consists of getting stoned in the sun with your bros drinking beer and not having to care what the FUCK they say as long as the beat and hook is dope, but don't talk stupid.

Soulja Boy can't kill hip hop because he isn't hip hop.

And naming yourself something stupid does not give you some kind of pass. It just makes you a fucking moron and sets the tone well when listening to the music.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Mar 29th, '11, 14:12

NicoleEM wrote:Well..it's not only the listeners/fans fault for making them known.It's the artists we love that are promoting some of them.Examples?Twista,Jean Grae and Lil b,Talib Kweli and Bow Wow,Fif with Soulja and Wacka and some others i can't think off right now.I remember ppls reaction to Tech N9ne praising Weezy.It's like a trend these days,everyone collaborating with everyone lol.I do think they are just trying to help new artists and it's mostly based on the fact that they met them and seem cool ppl(see Tech meeting Weezy),but damn.I hate cutting songs cause i don't like a verse,like i did with Jean's and Twista's tracks.
Also:
"RealTalibKweli Talib Kweli Greene
I could make an album with Justin Beiber Ted Nugent Yanni & Rebecca Black & it will still be more hiphop than any1 questioning me on twitter
u support my music so I respectfully respond. But complaining abt a song you've never heard is flawed logic if u claim to love music
the young homie reached out outta respect for my craft & for hiphop. I respect him for that & if you respect me you should too."
So we can't really blame them for making music and helping new rappers,either we like the tracks or not.
PS:who told ya they are rich?Do u really think they sell that many albums?neahh they are trying to make it just like anyone else.It's ur own choise if u wanna support or not.I choose not to support,nor to hate,i just don't listen lol.I find them really cocky and goofy,but that's just me.


This...I hate how people on here judge a song before they even listen.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Mar 29th, '11, 14:33

i enjoyed reading every post here.

Ontopic:

those 3 dumbfucks are a disgrace to hip hop,they dont need anybody to defend them for the simple fact that they are killing the fuck outta this genre.
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby Banks » Mar 29th, '11, 16:35

MikeNUFC wrote:They didn't "kill hip-hop" they just strengthen a ridiculous stereotype
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Mar 29th, '11, 17:44

LOL at that vid. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Re: Waka/Gucci/Soulja etc don't "kill hiphop"

Postby Satire » Apr 1st, '11, 18:45

I almost never break down arguments because I find it annoying but since you insist on replying in dashes...

-What does that pic have to do with me?

You are an inverted underground fan.
-I pointed out Waka's sales to show that he doesn't have the dominance that a similarly skilled rapper would have had a mere 5 years ago.

The fact that he has any impact at all or as much radio play as he does is embarrassing. He is indeed cancer.
-Who is the worst group, OFWGKTA? Tyler, The Creator is the only one I've cosigned on here, other than one Frank Ocean song. I've said that I don't care for the rest of them.

My bad, you listen to the irritating leader of the worst rap group of all time.
-"manufactured free speech"? I (almost never :whistle: ) say shit just to piss people off or get a reaction. I believe everything I say. I post plenty of non-controversial topics, share dope new music, etc. Everything I say is written out and supported, I never justpost a one sentence thread designed to piss people off.

"Almost", implying that there are times where you do, and you just said in your last post that you make topics thinking "Hmm...Would this make people argue with me as much as *insert other option*? Regardless of whether or not you believe in it, you are making topics with the attitude that everyone will disagree with you. And by the by, I'm probably the only person who said you were in their top 10 posters. The majority of this forum is telling you to stop making topics, which I disagree with, because you're a good member, but I'm a supreme being.
-Yes, my sig is 100% commercial artists. If you noticed, it says "who i'm listening to" on it. That is who I was bumping when I made it. I go in different runs, one week it very well could have had DZK, Tech N9ne, and Gravediggaz in it. I found Pink Friday awful, couldn't even finish it, but I had been to listening to some of Nicki's dope non-PF stuff so she made the list. I'll update it soon.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that you were listening to all 14 of those mainstream artists in your sig at the time, and you just happened to not be in the mood of ANY of the underground that you listen to? You just happened to conveniently remember 2Pac and T.I instead of Aesop Rock and DZK? Right.
-Yes, I advocate mainstream because I feel like a lot (not all) of the people on here write a lot of it off as wack.

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