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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:08

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EminemInsider wrote:Pretty sure he raved about Deja Vu in another thread just a week or two ago.

He doesn't even know whether he's trolling or not anymore. Self-induced mental illness...


You're referring to this thread.

Deja Vu is a great song but it lacks the passion


No one is arguing that Deju Vu isn't a great song. A song doesn't have to be technical to be good. I'm arguing that the technicalities of the song are not that technical. His rhyme pattern is simple.

Also, there was no 'raving' :laughing: One simple mention of the song. And don't say "I'm pretty sure he..." When you know damn well you've been searching my posts for the past 3 days. :laughing:


That's not the thread I was referring to. You went into more detail raving (yes, raving) about it in another thread.

Then again, you also talked about the amazinggg passion in "Mockingbird" and "When I'm Gone."

OK, you got me. I looked through your posts last night. Confusing troll is confusing...just wanted some clarification. Turns out, there was never a time when your posts weren't idiotic...so unless you've been trolling since you first registered, you're still a moron.

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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby classthe_king » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:13

I seem to gravitate to the bottle of NyQuil then I salivate.
Start off with the NyQuil like 'I think I'll just have a taste'.
Couple of sips of that then I gradually graduate,
to a harder prescription drug called Valium like yeah that's great.
I go to take just one and I end up like having eight.
Now I need something in my stomach cuz I haven't ate.
Maybe I'll grab a plate of nachos and I'll have a steak.
And you'd think that with all I have at stake,


How is this not forced? First he has to use "yeah that's great" and randomly throw it at the end of a line because he needs a rhyme. Then he's stuck for rhymes so he just decided that he only planned on one but then had eight. Yeah I'm sure he remembered that he actually had 8 and didn't use that for a rhyme. Then he tried to do some wordplay that was awful so he decides to randomly mention that he hasn't ate. What rhymes with ate that's a food? Steak! So then he mentions that he's going to have a steak, then gets real cocky and decides to use wordplay again and mention all that he has at stake. That's super forced.


Maybe just a nice cold brew, what's a beer?
That's the devil in my ear I been sober a fuckin' year.
And that fucker still talks to me, he's all I can fuckin hear,
'Marshall come on we'll watch the game it's the Cowboys and Buccaneers'.

Then this one is just embarrassing. For one, he has to use fuckin for a rhyme TWICE, then he just randomly says as the devil let's watch the Cowboys and Buccaneers. Yes, I'm sure that is there was no team called the Buccaneers he would have still mentioned football because that's what he was planning on doing the whole time. smh. That's so forced it's not even funny.



But I never had no problem with alcohol.
Ouch look out for the wall aim for the couch I'm about to fall.
I missed the couch and down I go looking like a bouncing ball.
Shit must have knocked me out cuz I didn't feel the ground at all
Wow what the fuck happened last night? Where am I?
Man, fuck am I hungover, and god damn i got a head ache.
Shit half a vicodin why cant I?
'All systems ready for take off please stand by'.

And these rhymes are just awful. For one, out for the wall is too many syllables and doesn't fit the rhyme pattern, and two, he's just saying random ass shit that he obviously wouldn't have said if they didn't rhyme. "I'm looking like a bouncing ball." Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how he looked? Plus the rhymes aren't good at all, about to fall, bouncing ball, ground at all. He rhymed ball, fall and all. Real original -__- Then the next rhymes were even worse, he used I three times in a row so was basically rhyming am with damn with can't. Then just says a random line at the end that doesn't connect whatsoever with anything said before it.



Now here I am three months later, full blown relapse,
'Just get high until the kids get home from school holmes, relax'.
And since im convinced that I'm insomniac,
I need these pills to be able to sleep, so I take three naps,
just to be able to function throughout the day let's see
that's an Ambien each nap, how many Valium? Three.
And that will average out to about one good hours sleep.
Ok so now you see the reason how come he
has taken four years just too put out an album B.
See me and you we almost had the same outcome Heath,
cuz that Christmas you know the Pneumonia thing?
It was bologna, was it the Methadone ya think?
Or the Hydrocodone, you hide inside your pornos?
Your VCR tape cases with your Ambien CR, great places to hide ain't it?
So you can lie to Haley, I'm going beddy bye Whitney baby good night Elaina.

These rhymes are just as bad. Throwing in the word holmes in the second line makes that rhyme super forced then he rhymed relax with three naps. Something else I'm sure he wouldn't have said if they didn't rhyme. And like you said, throwing a random B at the end of album to make it rhyme is extremelly forced, he can do much better than that. Then he prounced bologna that way to make it rhyme? That's not even close to how it's pronounced. Then he goes off on this rant about hiding his drugs inside pornos and vcr tape cases.

The whole song is filled with forced rhymes where he constantly jumps from one thing to the next because he needs things to rhyme with then tries to tie them all back together. It's like a half joking song, half serious because he couldn't make up his mind.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Master Chief » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:21

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy,
There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti,

Why did he mention "mom's spaghetti", that has nothing to do with he was rapping about. I bet if he didn't have to rhyme with palms are sweaty and arms are heavy then he would have said some other food and/or dad, sister, chef, brother, friend, restaurant name, etc.

That's exactly what you're doing with most of them.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby classthe_king » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:24

Yeah but the rhymes are so out of there on Deja Vu it's not even believeable. On the lines you posted you get the image in his head of him really nervous on stage after he threw up. Deja Vu paints no image in my head. There's not imagery at all, it's just random line after random line.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Satire » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:25

Satire wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Deja Vu sucks.


Jared, is there any song on Recovery or Relapse that you actually liked?


Also, 6 page classic. Thank you Block and Amadeo.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Master Chief » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:33

classthe_king wrote:Yeah but the rhymes are so out of there on Deja Vu it's not even believeable. On the lines you posted you get the image in his head of him really nervous on stage after he threw up. Deja Vu paints no image in my head. There's not imagery at all, it's just random line after random line.

Well, comparing Lose Yourself to Deja Vu isn't fair. But, Deja Vu isn't focusing on imagery as much as Lose Yourself.

Deja Vu has a few forced rhymes and you pointed them out but some of them just aren't like the Buccaneers line.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby classthe_king » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:39

How did you just pull all of that off the topic of your head :laughing: Do you go through his trash too?

The rhymes are forced, I don't buy them and they're simple. I can't listen to the song because there's no story being painted in my head at all nor his he making me feel any emotion, it's just random bullshit. End of story.



And yes, that buccaneers line is one of the most forced lines I've ever heard.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Block » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:41

lmao, mind showing where I was raving about that song? Because I never have. :laughing:

You said you went through my posts but don't post the links to what you're saying? Mind giving a few examples as to how any of my posts aren't 100% awesome? (because they are). I am everything you wish you could be. Plus more.


EminemInsider wrote:
Block wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:Pretty sure he raved about Deja Vu in another thread just a week or two ago.

He doesn't even know whether he's trolling or not anymore. Self-induced mental illness...


You're referring to this thread.

Deja Vu is a great song but it lacks the passion


No one is arguing that Deju Vu isn't a great song. A song doesn't have to be technical to be good. I'm arguing that the technicalities of the song are not that technical. His rhyme pattern is simple.

Also, there was no 'raving' :laughing: One simple mention of the song. And don't say "I'm pretty sure he..." When you know damn well you've been searching my posts for the past 3 days. :laughing:


That's not the thread I was referring to. You went into more detail raving (yes, raving) about it in another thread.

Then again, you also talked about the amazinggg passion in "Mockingbird" and "When I'm Gone."

OK, you got me. I looked through your posts last night. Confusing troll is confusing...just wanted some clarification. Turns out, there was never a time when your posts weren't idiotic...so unless you've been trolling since you first registered, you're still a moron.

LO-SING.



@satire: Mine got 10 pages bro. Or 9, I don't remember. I > You. (that means greater than, by the way. Thanks, amadeo)

LMAO @ Amadeo backing out now when it comes time to compare his work to mine. You fucking snake. Get outta here. You'll never be on my level, stan.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:42

classthe_king wrote:I seem to gravitate to the bottle of NyQuil then I salivate.
Start off with the NyQuil like 'I think I'll just have a taste'.
Couple of sips of that then I gradually graduate,
to a harder prescription drug called Valium like yeah that's great.
I go to take just one and I end up like having eight.
Now I need something in my stomach cuz I haven't ate.
Maybe I'll grab a plate of nachos and I'll have a steak.
And you'd think that with all I have at stake,


How is this not forced? First he has to use "yeah that's great" and randomly throw it at the end of a line because he needs a rhyme. Then he's stuck for rhymes so he just decided that he only planned on one but then had eight. Yeah I'm sure he remembered that he actually had 8 and didn't use that for a rhyme. Then he tried to do some wordplay that was awful so he decides to randomly mention that he hasn't ate. What rhymes with ate that's a food? Steak! So then he mentions that he's going to have a steak, then gets real cocky and decides to use wordplay again and mention all that he has at stake. That's super forced.


Except he actually DID eat nachos and steaks as a result of his extreme hunger, which was a side effect of the pills. Read the interviews. He didn't choose those foods randomly just to fit the rhyme.

Yeah, really forced.

Same with "and you'd THINK that with what I have at stake." Gee, wut does dis mean? His daughter (s), maybe? Nahhhh.

That's forced, unlike some wannabe emo-rap doofus who goes by "Sentus," rhyming gibberish about thorns and roses and shields. Your lyrics are absolutely abysmal. No offense, moron.


Maybe just a nice cold brew, what's a beer?
That's the devil in my ear I been sober a fuckin' year.
And that fucker still talks to me, he's all I can fuckin hear,
'Marshall come on we'll watch the game it's the Cowboys and Buccaneers'.

Then this one is just embarrassing. For one, he has to use fuckin for a rhyme TWICE, then he just randomly says as the devil let's watch the Cowboys and Buccaneers. Yes, I'm sure that is there was no team called the Buccaneers he would have still mentioned football because that's what he was planning on doing the whole time. smh. That's so forced it's not even funny.


2006, Cowboys and Buccaneers on Thanksgiving. Probably what he was referring to. Eminem's a big football fan. Yeah, no waaaaay could he have been planning on referencing that the whole time or anything.

Oh noes, he repeated a word in the string. Not like, oh, I dunno...Copywrite...does that ALL THE FUCKING TIME or anything. ("Fuck, I've had a stressful YEAR/Quite an eventful and regretful YEAR," for example...or "GET some beer" and "GET some clear" and "GET me here").

It's no wonder you're so impressed with turds like Sadistik and Diabolic...generic A-to-A-to-A drum mirroring wlggers. They're a dime a dozen, with all the musical charisma of a carpet fiber...but they're who you aspire to be. You're one confused idiot.

But I never had no problem with alcohol.
Ouch look out for the wall aim for the couch I'm about to fall.
I missed the couch and down I go looking like a bouncing ball.
Shit must have knocked me out cuz I didn't feel the ground at all
Wow what the fuck happened last night? Where am I?
Man, fuck am I hungover, and god damn i got a head ache.
Shit half a vicodin why cant I?
'All systems ready for take off please stand by'.

And these rhymes are just awful. For one, out for the wall is too many syllables and doesn't fit the rhyme pattern, and two, he's just saying random ass shit that he obviously wouldn't have said if they didn't rhyme. "I'm looking like a bouncing ball." Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly how he looked? Plus the rhymes aren't good at all, about to fall, bouncing ball, ground at all. He rhymed ball, fall and all. Real original -__- Then the next rhymes were even worse, he used I three times in a row so was basically rhyming am with damn with can't. Then just says a random line at the end that doesn't connect whatsoever with anything said before it.


Yeah, out-for-the-wall has an extra syllable. Oh well. Considering how vivid his narration is, I think I can let that slide, ya know?

No, he rhymed (a) bout-to-fall with bouncing-ball with ground-at-all. Of course, you're the same dolt who insisted Going Through Changes was almost entirely one syllable rhymes. :laughing:

Of course, any rhymes that sail over your head (basically everything Eminem does) is "just stupid" and "doesn't add anything to the song.

God-damn-I/why-can't-I/stand-by

And you REALLY can't even comprehend what he meant by, "All systems ready for take off, please stand by?" :laughing:


Now here I am three months later, full blown relapse,
'Just get high until the kids get home from school holmes, relax'.
And since im convinced that I'm insomniac,
I need these pills to be able to sleep, so I take three naps,
just to be able to function throughout the day let's see
that's an Ambien each nap, how many Valium? Three.
And that will average out to about one good hours sleep.
Ok so now you see the reason how come he
has taken four years just too put out an album B.
See me and you we almost had the same outcome Heath,
cuz that Christmas you know the Pneumonia thing?
It was bologna, was it the Methadone ya think?
Or the Hydrocodone, you hide inside your pornos?
Your VCR tape cases with your Ambien CR, great places to hide ain't it?
So you can lie to Haley, I'm going beddy bye Whitney baby good night Elaina.

These rhymes are just as bad. Throwing in the word holmes in the second line makes that rhyme super forced then he rhymed relax with three naps. Something else I'm sure he wouldn't have said if they didn't rhyme. And like you said, throwing a random B at the end of album to make it rhyme is extremelly forced, he can do much better than that. Then he prounced bologna that way to make it rhyme? That's not even close to how it's pronounced. Then he goes off on this rant about hiding his drugs inside pornos and vcr tape cases.


They for the judge's daughter by his grudge is against me
If I'm such a fuckin' menace this shit doesn't make sense, B

WHAAAAACK!

You just indirectly bashed dozens of lines from basically every rapper alive.

The genius of connecting Ambien CR to VCR (and this is all based on true story) sailed over your head, of course.

The whole song is filled with forced rhymes where he constantly jumps from one thing to the next because he needs things to rhyme with then tries to tie them all back together. It's like a half joking song, half serious because he couldn't make up his mind.


Hahahaha.

Somebody doesn't understand what "self deprecation" is. He knew exactly what he was doing. You don't understand it, but that's because you're a 17-year-old doofus.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Satire » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:43

I had a 19 page earlier this week.

K > Block

Plus at the rate this is going you're going to help me surpass yourself :smoking:

You taught me too well.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Master Chief » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:46

Satire wrote:I had a 19 page earlier this week.

K > Block

Plus at the rate this is going you're going to help me surpass yourself :smoking:

You taught me too well.

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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Satire » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:47

The thread has my name in it, of course it's going to become a classic quickly.

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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:48

Block wrote:lmao, mind showing where I was raving about that song? Because I never have. :laughing:

You said you went through my posts but don't post the links to what you're saying? Mind giving a few examples as to how any of my posts aren't 100% awesome? (because they are). I am everything you wish you could be. Plus more.


Do your own research. I'm not going to do all the work for you.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby Block » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:49

Satire wrote:I had a 19 page earlier this week.

K > Block

Plus at the rate this is going you're going to help me surpass yourself :smoking:

You taught me too well.


Yeah, that 19 pager went up quick too. These guys are way too fucking easy, lol. :worship: I'm glad you guys introduced me to the eminem section. This is fun. They get so heated.
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Re: The best thing about Beautiful

Postby classthe_king » Apr 3rd, '11, 05:50

Whelp, EminemInsider just lost the thread.
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