Eminem rhymes that people might not have noticed (REPOST)

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I see him arguing with people who are smarter than him and he ends up looking like an idiot every time. Wow, just wow.

He better shut his fuckin' mouth while he's 0-for-3.

I notice you didn't respond to what I said. I notice you typically don't respond when you've been shitted on and have nothing to retort with. I notice you use the excuse "that doznt dignify a respons frum my smarnss lulz!" I also noticed that your typical tactic consists of ignoring valid points, claiming righteousness and insulting the other person--for the praise of other stans--; all the while flaming the other person and accusing them of doing the exact same thing you just did.

Oh, I also noticed you know absolutely nothing about writing a song. Way to fail.

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[EminemInsider]

Hey look, it's Amadeo's ass partner. Awesome. Did he call you and tell you that he just got his ass handed to him and needed you to reply because he had nothing to say that would help his argument? Awww, coochi coo!

I can already tell that this post was made in RAGE.

And LMAO @ your example. afraid and scared are the same sounding vowels. Dumb ass. Terrible attempt. As I said in a previous post: You fucks are terrible at identifying assonance. Thank you for proving my point for me. You just deaded yourself in this little debate. Anything you reply with after this is null and void, due to the fact you've already shown your lack of knowledge in the subject.

LOL, what?

"Afraid" is a LONG A sound. "Scared" is not.

I love how you pretend we're "terrible at identifying assonance"...like we can't see when words have the same freak'n vowels. Good one. We can't see simple repeated vowels; it's not that YOU are the one who is clueless and can't identify impact multis (the main thing REAL rappers think about) or anything.

^^^ Again, proving that I'm right. It doesn't matter if it's "considered poor form" (to who? You? A pseudo-intellectual stan who has never written or recorded a song and listens to Eminem religiously?) Yeah, because that opinion is valid.

It's considered poor form to every respected rapper. That's why Eminem so rarely did/does it. Same with Rakim. Same with everyone who is anyone underground. Sadistik doesn't do it much, either.

Which do you think is harder to do; matching up all the impact rhyming syllables, or dispersing syllables all over the place without any thought as to whether or not they match up?

I remember when I first started writing rap lyrics for fun. Man, it was a lot easier back when I didn't take syllable alignment into consideration. Ah, those were the days. Of course, you're still in that phase...quite common for amateurs. The comedy is you think you're special.

And you know this as a fact? You talked to Marshal Mathers and asked him about this, specifically? No? You didn't? How fucking ironic. Guess what, your opinion on why something is the way it is, doesn't constitute fact. The reason they are the way they are is because it fits PERFECTLY on the beat. Not "Perfectly syllable by syllable" that doesn't matter. You'd know this if you've ever written or recorded anything. OH, you haven't? What a surprise!

Yeah, that's why. Because you HAVE to miss-align the syllables in order for it to fit the beat there!

Take away the fact that he's actually trying to SAY something specific, and just focus on the rhymes and syllable count...putting words in place just to see how it would work:

Leavin' em with a taste as sour as vinegar in they mouth
See they can trigger me, but they're sinister and they clowns

Oh shit, look, 8 syllables after "trigger me," just like in the original, only this time the syllables align. IMAGINE THAT!

CLEARLY THEN, the beat must have been dictating the lyrics and not the view he was trying to express.

LMAO@ at my rhymes not sounding similar under 'normal pronunciation'. You fucking hypocrite. First of all, show me any example of what you're talking about. Second, you stupid motherfuckers praise eminem for the way he stretches and contorts words from their normal pronunciation in order to make them rhyme.

Nope. I don't do that. Idiots do that. You won't see me yammering on about the brilliance of him trying to rhyme "bitch retarded" with "16 dollars." Reasonable understanding and use of common accents is one thing. There comes a point where you're pushing it.

Is that competition thread even up anymore? I was just in the creative writing forum and didn't see it.

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uh-freyd

skair

^^^ Oh, they aren't the same? Where the fuck are you from, pakistan?

The unstressed 'a' that you're referring to, as in 'at' is pronounced: at; unstressed uht, it

Not ai or ey. Ignorant piece of shit.

It's considered poor form to every respected rapper

Proof? Again, your opinion is not fact. Attempting to pass your opinion off as a fact is asinine. If quote-end-quote 'respected rappers' say this, please cite the source you recieved this information from. If you cannot, just like in court, it will be thrown out and disregarded as a mere opinion.

Either way, 'poor form' does not constitute 'not a multie syllable rhyme', dumb ass.

Also, Eminem used to do it ALL the time. I don't know if he still does because I don't listen to him. "rarely does it"

Which do you think is harder to do; matching up all the impact rhyming syllables, or dispersing syllables all over the place without any thought as to whether or not they match up

Neither. Writing them to the instrumental and making them fit perfectly with the instrumental. Oh, you'd know that if you've ever written to a beat, wouldn't you? You haven't? AGAIN? Damn. Guess that's another reason for your terrible logic.

I remember when I first started writing rap lyrics for fun. Man, it was a lot easier back when I didn't take syllable alignment into consideration. Ah, those were the days. Of course, you're still in that phase...quite common for amateurs. The comedy is you think you're special.

Please, showcase some of your lyrics so that I can laugh. Your opinion is meaningless considering there are a plethora of members here who hold my writing in the highest ragards. Another failed insult, poor insider.

Yeah, that's why. Because you HAVE to miss-align the syllables in order for it to fit the beat there!

Humoring your obviously handicapped-esque statement:

The best way to say what he wanted to say was to use slant rhymes. 6 syllables verses 4 syllables, while rhyming the inner-multies trigger me / figure me. It's a common tactic. You'd know that if you've ever recorded. OH, you haven't? Yet again...

Also, your example was retarded. Beyond retarded. The syllables align but that wouldn't flow to the instrumental. Another failed attempt from a retard who has never recorded.

CLEARLY THEN, the beat must have been dictating the lyrics and not the view he was trying to express

The beat dictates the syllable count, not what is said. Another failure. Jesus Christ, kid.. Do you ever stop?


How are you going to mention anything about writing technique when you've never done it? Sure, you've written some lyrics, I suspect, but to an instrumental? It's a whole different ball game. Your arguments are redundant and absurdly futile to anyone who has recorded. I'm dealing with a flock of stans who think critiquing Eminem's work makes them MaStrZ oF WRitnG LirikZ LUL.




I'm done responding to you. Your ignorance and stupidity in this subject is astounding. Anyone who has recorded will agree with me. You haven't. Neither has your boyfriend. I'm 100% correct, and you're an asshurt little puppet. Think or say what you will. That doesn't change facts.

Hey look, it's Amadeo's ass partner. Awesome. Did he call you and tell you that he just got his ass handed to him and needed you to reply because he had nothing to say that would help his argument? Awww, coochi coo!

I can already tell that this post was made in RAGE.

And LMAO @ your example. afraid and scared are the same sounding vowels. Dumb ass. Terrible attempt. As I said in a previous post: You fucks are terrible at identifying assonance. Thank you for proving my point for me. You just deaded yourself in this little debate. Anything you reply with after this is null and void, due to the fact you've already shown your lack of knowledge in the subject.

LOL, what?

"Afraid" is a LONG A sound. "Scared" is not.

I love how you pretend we're "terrible at identifying assonance"...like we can't see when words have the same freak'n vowels. Good one. We can't see simple repeated vowels; it's not that YOU are the one who is clueless and can't identify impact multis (the main thing REAL rappers think about) or anything.

^^^ Again, proving that I'm right. It doesn't matter if it's "considered poor form" (to who? You? A pseudo-intellectual stan who has never written or recorded a song and listens to Eminem religiously?) Yeah, because that opinion is valid.

It's considered poor form to every respected rapper. That's why Eminem so rarely did/does it. Same with Rakim. Same with everyone who is anyone underground. Sadistik doesn't do it much, either.

Which do you think is harder to do; matching up all the impact rhyming syllables, or dispersing syllables all over the place without any thought as to whether or not they match up?

I remember when I first started writing rap lyrics for fun. Man, it was a lot easier back when I didn't take syllable alignment into consideration. Ah, those were the days. Of course, you're still in that phase...quite common for amateurs. The comedy is you think you're special.

And you know this as a fact? You talked to Marshal Mathers and asked him about this, specifically? No? You didn't? How fucking ironic. Guess what, your opinion on why something is the way it is, doesn't constitute fact. The reason they are the way they are is because it fits PERFECTLY on the beat. Not "Perfectly syllable by syllable" that doesn't matter. You'd know this if you've ever written or recorded anything. OH, you haven't? What a surprise!

Yeah, that's why. Because you HAVE to miss-align the syllables in order for it to fit the beat there!

Take away the fact that he's actually trying to SAY something specific, and just focus on the rhymes and syllable count...putting words in place just to see how it would work:

Leavin' em with a taste as sour as vinegar in they mouth
See they can trigger me, but they're sinister and they clowns

Oh shit, look, 8 syllables after "trigger me," just like in the original, only this time the syllables align. IMAGINE THAT!

CLEARLY THEN, the beat must have been dictating the lyrics and not the view he was trying to express.

LMAO@ at my rhymes not sounding similar under 'normal pronunciation'. You fucking hypocrite. First of all, show me any example of what you're talking about. Second, you stupid motherfuckers praise eminem for the way he stretches and contorts words from their normal pronunciation in order to make them rhyme.

Nope. I don't do that. Idiots do that. You won't see me yammering on about the brilliance of him trying to rhyme "bitch retarded" with "16 dollars." Reasonable understanding and use of common accents is one thing. There comes a point where you're pushing it.

Is that competition thread even up anymore? I was just in the creative writing forum and didn't see it.

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uh-freyd

skair

^^^ Oh, they aren't the same? Where the fuck are you from, pakistan?

Where are YOU from?

Scared. Sounds like "air" and "hair" and "bear."

Afraid. Sounds like "aid" and "grenade" and "lake" and "made" and "hate."

What is so hard to grasp here?

Proof? Again, your opinion is not fact. Attempting to pass your opinion off as a fact is asinine. If quote-end-quote 'respected rappers' say this, please cite the source you recieved this information from. If you cannot, just like in court, it will be thrown out and disregarded as a mere opinion.

Hyp. o. critical.

I deduced this much from the fact that all the top rappers align about 99% of their multis, and there are many moments of forcing extra words into them just to make them work. The Saurus, for example, is known for "forced multis" because of how much he does this. But WHY does he do this?

Well, because if he didn't, the syllable counts wouldn't align and it would be even worse.

Either way, 'poor form' does not constitute 'not a multie syllable rhyme', dumb ass.

Also, Eminem used to do it ALL the time. I don't know if he still does because I don't listen to him. "rarely does it"

ALL the time? List them off. I'm talking 2002 and prior Eminem, by the way. You know, the Eminem that was one of the greatest of all-time.

Neither. Writing them to the instrumental and making them fit perfectly with the instrumental. Oh, you'd know that if you've ever written to a beat, wouldn't you? You haven't? AGAIN? Damn. Guess that's another reason for your terrible logic.

I love how you assume. You know what they say about people who ASSume.

Please, showcase some of your lyrics so that I can laugh. Your opinion is meaningless considering there are a plethora of members here who hold my writing in the highest ragards. Another failed insult, poor insider.

Where's this "plethora?" Funny, you weren't winning the competition after round 1, MikeNufC was, and he would be on the Amadeo/EminemInsider side of the argument here, I'd imagine.

Humoring your obviously handicapped-esque statement:

The best way to say what he wanted to say was to use slant rhymes. 6 syllables verses 4 syllables, while rhyming the inner-multies trigger me / figure me. It's a common tactic. You'd know that if you've ever recorded. OH, you haven't? Yet again...

Based on what? Based on you SAYING SO? Who cares about "trigger me" and "figure me?" That's only rhyming one two-syllable word...far less important than the ending multis having aligning syllables.

Also, your example was retarded. Beyond retarded. The syllables align but that wouldn't flow to the instrumental. Another failed attempt from a retard who has never recorded.

Yes it would.

You really need to take a music theory class, because you're utterly clueless. You couldn't find the down beat with a road map. It's quite sad that you think you're an "expert" when you're actually more clueless than the average internet rapper.

The beat dictates the syllable count, not what is said. Another failure. Jesus Christ, kid.. Do you ever stop?

Uh, who said it doesn't?

The syllable count doesn't determine whether multis are aligned or not. In both Eminem's actual lyrics and my example, the syllable counts are the same. In mine, however, the multis are aligned. Eminem's aren't, but that has nothing to do with the flow. The flow could be done exactly the same in both instances; the problem is, my lyrics aren't saying what Eminem wanted to say. If he could have written something that said the same thing where the multis would have had aligning syllables, rest assured, he would have done it.

How are you going to mention anything about writing technique when you've never done it? Sure, you've written some lyrics, I suspect, but to an instrumental? It's a whole different ball game. Your arguments are redundant and absurdly futile to anyone who has recorded. I'm dealing with a flock of stans who think critiquing Eminem's work makes them MaStrZ oF WRitnG LirikZ LUL.

Yeah, writing to 4/4 after 4/4. Really difficult stuff.

I'm done responding to you. Your ignorance and stupidity in this subject is astounding.

I LOVE this line.

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Although I'm going against what I previously said, your stupidity is a cause for posting.

scared and afraid both have a stressed 'a' sound. The dictionary doesn't lie, sorry.

Ridiculing my writing is pointless when you have nothing to show for yourself and everyone else (including your friend mike) praises it. I wasn't intending for this to be a dick measuring contest, but if it turned in to that, fine by me.

And LOL @ pointing out grammatical errors. I believe I pointed that out in the last argument (which I can't be fucked quoting) as your guys' failsafe attempt to keep your head in the argument.


You already said I was right. "It's poor form" << Doesn't mean it's not what I say it is; A multie syllable rhyme. Mutiple syllables rhyming within a given line. Hey, look at that.

^^^ The discussion was over at that point. Oh, and the point where you said scared and afraid don't stress the letter 'a' in the same way.


Fucking dumb ass.

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Okay, rhymes with ONE syllable out of alignment ("private life/might get my wife" - Eminem, Don't Approach Me) could be seen as a "flubbed" multi, if you are so insistent on being lenient to poorly written multis. Though when Eminem doesn't align, it's not usually a flub, it's because he's sacrificing that aspect for the sake of saying something.

This is as far as I read and refuse to read any further. You just agreed with my original argument that a mutie syllable rhyme that doesn't align the syllables is still a multie.

"it's okay when eminem does it because he's the greatest evorz and when he does it he means it to say something awsims"

Shut the fuck you, you pathetic waste of O2.

Concession accepted (on both accounts).


I'm officially done with this topic. You both admitted I'm right.

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And LOL @ pointing out grammatical errors. I believe I pointed that out in the last argument (which I can't be fucked quoting) as your guys' failsafe attempt to keep your head in the argument.

Actually, no. It's perfectly relevant when you're in an argument about language with someone to point out that your opponent doesn't know the first thing about language. If you don't even know how to structure your sentences properly, why would we listen to your tripe about how to structure rhymes properly?

You don't know anything about rhyming and rhyme schemes.

He's acting weird again, he's really beginning to scare me.
Wont shave his beard again and he pretends he doesn't hear me.
And all he does is eat Doritos and Cheetos,
and he just fell asleep in his car eating three musketeers in the rear seat'.

^^^^ How can you read that verse and tell me that the hard 'e' sounds aren't part of the main rhyme scheme? Because they're not perfect multies?? You're a fucking idiot.

And here's you (in the other thread) linking "hard e sounds" (which don't exist) with rhyming. You think assonance is the same thing as rhyming.

You just agreed with my original argument that a mutie syllable rhyme that doesn't align the syllables is still a multie.

I'm officially done with this topic. You both admitted I'm right.

You just agreed with my original argument that a mutie syllable rhyme that doesn't align the syllables is still a multie.

I'm officially done with this topic. You both admitted I'm right.

You just agreed with my original argument that a mutie syllable rhyme that doesn't align the syllables is still a multie.

I'm officially done with this topic. You both admitted I'm right.

Sorry, little guy, you lose.

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:laughing:

This is equivalent to a child blocking their ears and yelling "LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU."

You and your boyfriend both agreed with me. Arguing semantics isn't going to change the original point of the debate. There's not "I can't hear you." it's more like, "I'm right and you conceded."

Either way, you lost. Either way, I'm better than you. Either way, you're a pretentious dipshit.


Pretty much sums it up. This is def. my last post here. I do enjoy clowning on your idiocy, though.


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OH, and just for shits and giggles.. Yeah, I know NOTHING about rhyme schemes.

You're definitely my favourite writer on here. Your word choice and structure is just so excellent, feels so well crafted.

Internal rhyming was fantastic, with no forcing at all.

And you have some really poetic lines... loved this:

The universe smiles on the mouths of the truly versed
Chewing words down not to sound like you rehearsed
(truly hurts), she only loves you with the lights off,
Overly submissive when her sight's gone

This would sound so epic recorded.

sorry to get you in the middle of this if you read this, Mike


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Man, that's not even half of them. Fuck outta here.

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^^^ The discussion was over at that point. Oh, and the point where you said scared and afraid don't stress the letter 'a' in the same way.


Fucking dumb ass.

Just wanted to address this one last time: Do you see that straight line over the "a" in the pronunciation when you look up "afraid" in the dictionary? Notice how that symbol does not appear in the pronunciation of "scared."

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^^^ The discussion was over at that point. Oh, and the point where you said scared and afraid don't stress the letter 'a' in the same way.


Fucking dumb ass.

Just wanted to address this one last time: Do you see that straight line over the "a" in the pronunciation when you look up "afraid" in the dictionary? Notice how that symbol does not appear in the pronunciation of "scared."

Again, arguing semantics.. And still wrong.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scared

[skair]

^^ We see that they pronounce it as sk-air, correct? ai is a stressed 'a' sound. Oh, it's not? Wait, wait, wait.. Doesn't the word afraid come stock with an ai already in it? AND THEY HAD THE NERVE TO USE "AI" AS A PRONUNCIATION GUIDE FOR THE WORD YOU SAID DIDN'T STRESS THE SAME SYLLABLES?? THOSE BASTARDS.

Okay, let's look up the word 'air' since they used that in the sample pronunciation.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/air

Definition number 8:
Music .
a. a tune; melody.
b. the soprano or treble part.
c. an aria.
d. Also, ayre. an Elizabethan art song.

Oh, ay isn't a stressed 'a' sound now, either? Okay, let's scroll a little further down the page.

Origins.

Latin āēr- (accusative āerem ) < Greek āer- (stem of āḗr )


OH. You mean those lines? Yeah. It's a stressed 'a' in both words. Even if it wasn't (which it is) The words are seemingly identical when spoken. The only differentiating attribute is that scared has the 'r' sound after the strssed 'a' --and before the 'd' sound--while afraid has the 'd' sound immediately after the stressing of the 'a'.



Again, this is semantics and your arguments were made void after agreeing with me. Good day, faggots.

[EminemInsider]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scared

(skâr)

Apparently you're trying to argue for pronouncing it, "skay-ered" or something. Well, good luck with that. Eminem didn't pronounce it that way...probably because it sounds stupid.

"Afraid" features a long A sound on the second syllable and would have worked perfectly with "AIDS"...IF it lined up. "Scared," on the other hand, doesn't work with it at all unless you talk like an idiot.

And that was your 17th "last post" in this thread.

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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scared

(skâr)

Apparently you're trying to argue for pronouncing it, "skay-ered" or something. Well, good luck with that. Eminem didn't pronounce it that way...probably because it sounds stupid.

"Afraid" features a long A sound on the second syllable and would have worked perfectly with "AIDS"...IF it lined up. "Scared," on the other hand, doesn't work with it at all unless you talk like an idiot.

And that was your 17th "last post" in this thread.

How are you going to try and argue against a dictionary? I listed more than enough examples from the dictionary itself (the site). You're just reaching now. Face the fact you lost, little guy.

And no, it was like my third or fourth. Doesn't matter, really, I've already won. I'm just clowning on your idiocy now.

[EminemInsider]

^^ We see that they pronounce it as sk-air, correct? ai is a stressed 'a' sound. Oh, it's not? Wait, wait, wait.. Doesn't the word afraid come stock with an ai already in it? AND THEY HAD THE NERVE TO USE "AI" AS A PRONUNCIATION GUIDE FOR THE WORD YOU SAID DIDN'T STRESS THE SAME SYLLABLES?? THOSE BASTARDS.

Yeah, because as we all know, vowels always have the exact same sound in every word. Like "ether" and "elephant," "ape" and "average," "iodine" and "iguana," "oval" and "ocular," and "uber" and "under."

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go walk up the STAY-ers (stairs) and go to bed because I'm tired of WAITing for you to admit you're wrong...it's making me pull out my HAY-er (hair).

Siiiick rhymes.

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^^ We see that they pronounce it as sk-air, correct? ai is a stressed 'a' sound. Oh, it's not? Wait, wait, wait.. Doesn't the word afraid come stock with an ai already in it? AND THEY HAD THE NERVE TO USE "AI" AS A PRONUNCIATION GUIDE FOR THE WORD YOU SAID DIDN'T STRESS THE SAME SYLLABLES?? THOSE BASTARDS.

Yeah, because as we all know, vowels always have the exact same sound in every word. Like "ether" and "elephant," "ape" and "average," "iodine" and "iguana," "oval" and "ocular," and "uber" and "under."

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go walk up the STAY-ers (stairs) and go to bed because I'm tired of WAITing for you to admit you're wrong...it's making me pull out my HAY-er (hair).

Siiiick rhymes.

I'm glad you're learning that ai is a stressed 'a' sound. Sleep it off.

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Okay, guys, this is my LAST POST of this thread.

...Okay, THIS time it's my last post. I'm done replying to you clowns.

*refreshes the thread obsessively for new replies and sees one*

*frantically runs back in the thread to fire off a furious reply*

...THIS time it's my last post, I swear, guyz.

...Okay, this time it's definitely my last post. Phew, I got the last word in, which means I won.

*wipes brow, sleeps soundly*

Nah, you agreeing with me means I won. Duh. You mad as hell, ain't you?

By the way, it was my last post because I was planning on going to bed; that never happened; so it's not. After I go to bed I don't plan on posting in here, though. I mean, no need, right? I already destroyed your feeble attempts at an argument. Plus, as an added bonus, you both agreed with me. What more could I ask for out of your obviously obsessive selves?