For You Recovery Haters

[Maybe]

Without angering the obsessed 'angst-y' fans, I'll say this: It's just not good -- in my honest opinion. I think it's amateur work (as in, better than Lil Wayne, not as good as Kanye type), and I've always considered him better than the typical mainstream. With Recovery, he degraded himself lyrically. He went 40 floors down the rhyme-scheme elevator and (this I cannot stress enough) readjusted his flow to sound broken, and just "last-minute-put-together" awful.

When I heard Relapse, I thought to myself, well, hes still got it. When I heard he was working on a new, more "mature" album, I figured with the rhyming on relapse, the mind-state of TES... well, just imagine how excited I was. It would be the first CLASSIC Eminem album since 2002. When I heard Recovery, I teared. I wasn't sad, no. I was embarrassed; I was embarrassed for Eminem; I was embarrassed that this was once an artist that had all of my respect and admiration when it came to top-notch music; most of all, though, I was embarrassed that fans -- the same dedicated fans that bitched at every pop song he did years ago -- actually considered this pieced together monstrosity good, just because it came with a pity plea from their Lord & Savior.

This is coming from someone that listens exclusively (as far as Hip-Hop is concerned) to rappers like Slug, Brother Ali, Eyedea, etc. It should be understandable why I dislike Eminems music these days. I have no doubt that he's capable of good music, but his influence is so beyond tarnished, I have little faith.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Good to see you giving 25 To Life the props it deserves. One of my favourite Em tracks of all time.

This. 25 To Life is SO underrated that it sickens me. The subject matter is awesome, his delivery is great, the shouting actually fits with the song, great lyrics...and yet I see hate for it all the time and I'm not even sure why it's so hated.

[Sla]

Right now I was hearing "Medicine Ball" (Relapse) - the more I hear stuff like that the more I appreciate the new Eminem. That song is a good reason to adore Recovery. Don't wanna hear no accent anymore, don't wanna hear no raping ass anymore. Hopefully he continues with his actually style or even increases it in some way.

[blitches]

Recovery just doesnt feel like an aftermath album, like hes on a different label, i know it sounds weird, its just that too me, it doesnt have that same top notch aftermath feel to it, when you put it us against say get rich, or cheers, eminem show etc. recovery's quality just doesnt sound as good, even encore had it, im not sayin let dre do all tha beats, im just sayin production wise, it doesnt sound as crisp and clean as past aftermath albums, maybe its just bad mixing, overall i give the album a 7/10

[VenomBlackViper]

Recovery is pretty much TES with every aspect downgraded
lyricism downgraded
flow downgraded
delivery downgraded
production downgraded
hooks downgraded
concepts were actually on point (for the most part) he just didn't execute them as good

It's a pretty good album but by his standards it's unimpressive. Same with Relapse but for different reasons. Encore on the other hand is inexcusable shit, theres no defending that.

[Manly Moose]

Recovery is pretty much TES with every aspect downgraded
lyricism downgraded
flow downgraded
delivery downgraded
production downgraded
hooks downgraded
concepts were actually on point (for the most part) he just didn't execute them as good

It's a pretty good album but by his standards it's unimpressive. Same with Relapse but for different reasons. Encore on the other hand is inexcusable shit, theres no defending that.

I blame Yes Men and pills for Encore. (Yes being completely trashed every single day is an excuse for Encore)

[xnoxiousx]

I think the worst thing about Recovery is "Eminem" himself. Why? Because it has no sound of Eminem (except some tracks). It is not a bad album, but it is not Eminem we used to listen to. He is just different, completely changed his style. But, as I said, although is is not the old Eminem anymore, it lacks something special and musically (choruses, tries to sing) it is the piece of shit. EVERY musician would want to kick his ass when he/she heard the chorus on "You´re Never Over" or the bridge on "not Afraid". Sometimes I just do not have mood to listen to screaming to the microphone on every single track, too.. So, I like Recovery, but I think it is the worst Eminem record in general. Although I would rate the album 6,5-7/10.

I agree with this. Im not sure about it being worst it quite close between recovery and encore i might give edge to encore at least it had some great songs.

[Alex2012]

Recovery is a new album, it means different, the next will be different and that's good. Like music, rap has to be reinvented. You won't listen the same songs at each time of day.
I think this album and not afraid he wrote for him, because he had to prove something ... I think it's done 'cuz his latest feat is much more deadly ...

I didn't know that rap was mathematics, how many punchlines here, how many rhymes here, the level of beat ....
And Recovery is not freestyle or Rap battle, it's music, stop calculating you have to listen ...

you lie down, close your eyes you turn up the volume, and let the voice and sound invade you and you have an orgasm or you don't.

Me, I had!

[Sla]

Yeah, me too. I think we should unite our feelings - what ya think?

[Alex2012]

Ok Sla, let's have pleasure together on Recovery, but you know I'm not fooled, Recovery is a commercial album , EM proves that you could still bet on him. The tracks are made for stage with musicians behind him. Won't back down is dope with the Roots!

But I don't follow you on Relapse cuz it's another world, lyrics are crazy, not for all ears !That's well if Eminem still manages to surprise us ! Now that he filled the till, he is going to release itself some more…

[Sla]

Ok Sla, let's have pleasure together on Recovery, but you know I'm not fooled, Recovery is a commercial album , EM proves that you could still bet on him. The tracks are made for stage with musicians behind him.

Sure it's commercial. Personally I don't wanna see an underground Em. He is a world star, so he should act like that.

Won't back down is dope with the Roots!

Em's verses are dope, the hook a bit less ...

But I don't follow you on Relapse cuz it's another world, lyrics are crazy, not for all ears !That's well if Eminem still manages to surprise us ! Now that he filled the till, he is going to release itself some more…

Relapse could have been as dope as Recovery, if he didn't use the accent and if he rapped about more serious things.

[Alex2012]

I could say more about Relapse but it's off topic, perhaps on another topic.

Of course, I prefer Eminem's voice and punchlines now.

[randomgirl]

I love Recovery. I remember being thoroughly impressed when I first heard it. As opposed to the first time I heard Encore, for example.

I mean, at least it's better than Encore, so it's a step up. Not as good as TES, but still better than Encore and Relapse, imo. I just wish Rihanna & Lil' Wayne weren't on it. I've always wanted him to work with Pink though, so I like WBD. No Love is okay, but Lil' Wayne can be completely erased from it. His part is pointless. And don't get me started on Rihanna.

[Sla]

I love Recovery. I remember being thoroughly impressed when I first heard it. As opposed to the first time I heard Encore, for example.

I gotta hear an album a few times, before I can really say something. After I heard it the first time, I thought there were too many samples, didn't like that fact. I love hearing Em singing/rapping the hook. Later I changed my mind, the samples were pretty dope. I also remember laughing my ass off after hearing Space Bound, I thought it was some kinda joke, with him doing a female voice or somehting like that.

I just wish Rihanna & Lil' Wayne weren't on it. I've always wanted him to work with Pink though, so I like WBD. No Love is okay, but Lil' Wayne can be completely erased from it. His part is pointless. And don't get me started on Rihanna.

I'm happy they were on it. it was my wish hearing Em & Ri collaborating, so I enjoyed it (still enjoying it). Weezy didn't that bad job, at least he didn't ruin No Love. He might have a strange voice, but you can't deny his talent. Em wouldn't do 3 songs with him, if he were wack. On the other hand I think the P!nk collabo was some kinda waste. Too short part for her, not even a dope part. She only accepted, cause it was Eminem, pretty sure ...

[randomgirl]

Yeah, I know what you mean actually. But the first time I heard TES I knew from that moment I loved it. Whereas Encore had to grow on me, and it took a while. And Recovery I was pretty much in love with most of it from the start, just like TES. A few songs had to grow on me tho, and it seems like all the songs I enjoy are the ones everybody hates. But oh well. I do wish Pink's part was more significant, but I'm just glad he worked with her at all. As for Wayne & Ri, I'm not really into them, so I judged those two songs the harshest. Em & Wayne together just doesn't do it for me. I like No Love, but most of the time I skip Wayne's verse. Not saying Wayne completely sucks, but I'm not a fan. I didn't like Drop The World at all. LTWYL I don't enjoy it that much. If anything, I'll watch the video just because Eminem looks cute in it. Never liked Rihanna's voice, or any of her songs or any song she's ever featured in.

I wish Em would work less with Wayne and more with Kanye. A strictly Em & Kanye track, that's what I wanna hear.