Multi-Syllables vs. Punchlines vs. Content

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Despite how ridiculous DA post looks, he actually has a decent point. A lot of Eminem's greatest multi syllabic songs are from a pure technical level (Hellbound, Still Don't give a fuck, etc.)

I was going to say content easily, but there's just some days, when I want to drift off and listen to a rapper shred a beat.

how and why does my post look ridiculous?

and i agree with what u said,bro

[dead prez]

And he's saying how he'll kill your point? I mean I know you have to have some wit drop hot 16s, but it definitely doesn't go under emotional/introspective, deep, or storytelling. It's just "I'll kill you", albeit done with tact.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

what i mean that even in these songs eminem sais some good shit

I ain't no fuckin G, I'm a cannibal
I ain't tryin to shoot you,
I'm tryin to chop you into pieces and eat you
Wrap you in rope and plastic, stab you with broken glass
and have you with open gashes strapped to a soakin mattress
Coke and acid, black magic, cloaks and daggers (ahhh!)
Fuck the planet, until it spins on a broken axis
I'm so bananas I'm showin up to your open casket
to fill it full of explosive gasses
and close it back with a lit match in it
while I sit back and just hope it catches
Blow you to fragments
Laugh, roll you and smoke the ashes

that ain't abt nothing!! em rapped bout how he was a mindfuck and the ill stuff he would do....

U need to practice holding a thought.

he rapped abt the same shit on Roman's Revenge,how crazy and ill he is and what he would do,executed differently (I Agree) this is excuted better (I Agree).

damn it you need to practice TR-control lulz

[Trimss]

lmao!!! on roman's revenge he rapped punches bout cars, only first couple of lines, and he used wack words to describe it....


please don't ever compare hellbound to roman's revenge, it's a BLASPHEMY

Comparing encore to recovery is even worst

[Devil'sAdvocate]

lmao!!! on roman's revenge he rapped punches bout cars, only first couple of lines, and he used wack words to describe it....


please don't ever compare hellbound to roman's revenge, it's a BLASPHEMY

while metaphorically he was talkin abt how crazy he is.

damn it,you lost like 50 times today,log out and come back tommorow,bro.

TR aint a place for you at this moment.

[dead prez]

lmao!!! on roman's revenge he rapped punches bout cars, only first couple of lines, and he used wack words to describe it....

please don't ever compare hellbound to roman's revenge, it's a BLASPHEMY

Falls under execution.

[Trimss]

so u'd like to listen to:


suck a duck/choke on a prick/stroke cause i'm sick

better then something actually meaning anything?

It's about something too. If Relapse is about rape and killing, this is about sucking a duck chokin on a prick because i'm sick.

[dead prez]

so u'd like to listen to:


suck a duck/choke on a prick/stroke cause i'm sick

better then something actually meaning anything?

False dichotomy and strawman, he never said that he wants to listen to such an elementary rhymer force multies, and you're assuming that just because a song doesn't have some deep meaning behind it or isn't theatric it can be thrown into the bargain bin.

[VenomBlackViper]

Honestly I can't choose between great multis & great punches. Seeing as how "content" in here just means rapping about how hard life is & all that other emotional shit I prefer them both over content.

[classthe_king]

Multis

[Kez]

I don't understand why people act like you have to pick just one

Good rappers don't segregate, they combine them

[FreeSpeech]

You left out flow/rhythym/just souding good so...

1) Flow
2) Content
3) Multis
4) Punchlines

If you don't have flow and sound bad, I won't listen. Period. 50 generally doesn't have great content, multis, or punchlines, but some of his songs are just dope cuz of the smooth flow/voice.

[WakeUpShow]

I'm the only one that picked punchlines

1.) I've heard rappers rhyme complete sentences throughout a song, and I go back just to see that none of the lines even made sense. Fuck That!

2.) I've heard rappers make "emotional songs" that are sooo broad and general. Songs that I could make to make myself seem like I have a hard life, when in reality all I did was say things that were "poetic" and say I was depressed a few times.

3.) 95% of the time I want to listen to music, I'm not in an angry/sad mood, I'm in a good mood. I love hearing puns and wordplay that either make me crack up or just say "WOW how the fuck did he do that?" What I really love about hip-hop is that it is the only genre that is funny and clever.

[Satire]

You left out flow/rhythym/just souding good so...

1) Flow
2) Content
3) Multis
4) Punchlines

If you don't have flow and sound bad, I won't listen. Period. 50 generally doesn't have great content, multis, or punchlines, but some of his songs are just dope cuz of the smooth flow/voice.

If you read the OP, I said this is assuming the rapper we're talking about already had these traits. We're discussing everyone's different perspectives of lyricism because of an argument that occurred earlier. If I wanted to know "What's the best trait a rapper should go for?" there are so many other factors that I would have to include.

Duh.

[FreeSpeech]

You left out flow/rhythym/just souding good so...

1) Flow
2) Content
3) Multis
4) Punchlines

If you don't have flow and sound bad, I won't listen. Period. 50 generally doesn't have great content, multis, or punchlines, but some of his songs are just dope cuz of the smooth flow/voice.

If you read the OP, I said this is assuming the rapper we're talking about already had these traits. We're discussing everyone's different perspectives of lyricism, If I wanted to know "What's the best trait a rapper should go for?" there are so many other factors that I would have included.

Duh.

Ooh ya my b mayne, long day.

Uhhh, content then. It doesn't have to even be real deep, just interesting. Multis are nice, but are honestly not that impressive or hard to write. If you have 2/3 syllables, we cool we cool. Punchlines? Eh some are clever, but they aren't really that cool either. Good, focused lyrics are my favorite.