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BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

For discussion of mainstream Hip Hop or Urban music.

How many rappers do you think are better than Lupe?

None
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4%
5
2
7%
10
2
7%
25
6
22%
50
2
7%
100
1
4%
1000
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4%
Everyone
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Total votes : 27

BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 04:54

Dedicated to slimshadylappin and anyone else who wants to join in this debate. This isn't a troll, and this isn't a hate topic, this is pure discussion of one of my favorite artists, Lupe Fiasco, as well as a rival thread to get back for this: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=111635

Kind of a more serious version of the infamous Chit Chat Em-version.

Everybody name a rapper and give a reason why you think he is better than Lupe Fiasco. If we get to 50 rappers, and these are not validly refuted, then Lupe is officially garbage as deemed by the forum's Trilluminati.

Anyways, I'm going to pull a Cokebottle and bail after the OP :shifty: I'll edit in my response later.
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby slimshadylappin » Apr 16th, '11, 04:59

There is none

Lupe Fiasco is his own unique brand of rapper that excels at everything and is perfect. The only song uninfluenced by Atlantic that I dislike is Go Go Gadjet flow and even that isn't bad. You all can name names like 50 Cent, Kanye West or Eminem but when you do that then you will die a little on the inside.

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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Master Chief » Apr 16th, '11, 05:01

Let's start with obvious one: Eminem.

Eminem's first three albums shatter all of Lupe Fiasco's albums. Recovery is way better than Lasers and Relapse is way better than Lasers. Encore is obviously inferior. Eminem is 5 thousand times the rhymer Lupe is. Eminem has a better arsenal of flows. Eminem is a more versatile artist.

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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby slimshadylappin » Apr 16th, '11, 05:08

Master Chief wrote:Let's start with obvious one: Eminem.

Eminem's first three albums shatter all of Lupe Fiasco's album
s. Recovery is way better than Lasers and Relapse is way better than Lasers. Encore is obviously inferior. Eminem is 5 thousand times the rhymer Lupe is. Eminem has a better arsenal of flows. Eminem is a more versatile artist.

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Completely false

A extremely ignorant statement that I would expect from Sla
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 05:18

slimshadylappin wrote:
Master Chief wrote:Let's start with obvious one: Eminem.

Eminem's first three albums shatter all of Lupe Fiasco's album
s. Recovery is way better than Lasers and Relapse is way better than Lasers. Encore is obviously inferior. Eminem is 5 thousand times the rhymer Lupe is. Eminem has a better arsenal of flows. Eminem is a more versatile artist.

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Completely false

A extremely ignorant statement that I would expect from Sla


Are you going to give a reason why that's an ignorant comment? :unsure:
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 16th, '11, 05:19

Diabolic, well since i'm obviously Diabolic I think that i'm a better rapper than Lupe. I'm from the real underground whereas Lupe is signed to Atlantic. I have a better,stronger delivery, I flow over beats better, I don't get female singers on my song hooks, I have better punchlines, I have a better usage of multis & when we do touch on the same subject I do it better.
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Master Chief » Apr 16th, '11, 05:26

Tech N9ne. Now, Tech N9ne absolutely rapes Lupe Fiasco. In every department except for metaphors/punchlines. Outside of that... Tech's flow is omg. One of the best at this. No contest. Multis/rhyming? Even less of a contest. Delivery? Tech's delivery is much more strong, clear and passionate. Discography? Everready, K.O.D & Absolute Power are better than F&L, his mixtapes & Lasers. K.O.D is better than The Cool by a good margin.

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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby slimshadylappin » Apr 16th, '11, 05:31

Satire wrote:
slimshadylappin wrote:
Master Chief wrote:Let's start with obvious one: Eminem.

Eminem's first three albums shatter all of Lupe Fiasco's album
s. Recovery is way better than Lasers and Relapse is way better than Lasers. Encore is obviously inferior. Eminem is 5 thousand times the rhymer Lupe is. Eminem has a better arsenal of flows. Eminem is a more versatile artist.

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Completely false

A extremely ignorant statement that I would expect from Sla


Are you going to give a reason why that's an ignorant comment? :unsure:

Well first of all I doubt that Master Chief has listened to Food and Liquor and The Cool as much as Eminem albums so he doesn't notice all the clever lines and rhymes.

Second the SSLP alone has multiple weak tracks that stop it from being anywhere near the caliber of Lupe's first two.

Third Lupe does not just talk about himself. He displays topics from all places. When Eminem decides to not talk about himself he is just bashing celebraties

bashing celebrities does not = good albums
it equals a lazy way to fill up a song.

4th Lupe wordplay > Eminem's rhymes
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby slimshadylappin » Apr 16th, '11, 05:32

Master Chief wrote:Tech N9ne. Now, Tech N9ne absolutely rapes Lupe Fiasco. In every department except for metaphors/punchlines. Outside of that... Tech's flow is omg. One of the best at this. No contest. Multis/rhyming? Even less of a contest. Delivery? Tech's delivery is much more strong, clear and passionate. Discography? Everready, K.O.D & Absolute Power are better than F&L, his mixtapes & Lasers. K.O.D is better than The Cool by a good margin.

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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Master Chief » Apr 16th, '11, 05:37

slimshadylappin wrote:Well first of all I doubt that Master Chief has listened to Food and Liquor and The Cool as much as Eminem albums so he doesn't notice all the clever lines and rhymes.

Second the SSLP alone has multiple weak tracks that stop it from being anywhere near the caliber of Lupe's first two.

Third Lupe does not just talk about himself. He displays topics from all places. When Eminem decides to not talk about himself he is just bashing celebraties

bashing celebrities does not = good albums
it equals a lazy way to fill up a song.

4th Lupe wordplay > Eminem's rhymes

SSLP has no fillers. If you're referring to Cum On Everybody, then not at all. The song is the weakest song on the album but still a good song.

Who cares if Lupe doesn't talk about himself but Eminem does? Just makes Eminem's music more relateable. Eminem bashing celebrites in songs such as Without Me, The Real Slim Shady & even My Name Is, is very witty, clever and funny. He addresses issues in pop culture while being extemely technical and clever at the same time. Just proves how much more versatile Eminem is than Lupe.

Rhyming, flow, content, delivery > wordplay.
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby RainMan44 » Apr 16th, '11, 05:37

Nas.
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 05:38

I found my choice.
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Lupe's story telling is good, but this guy is just on fucking point. Absolutely one of the greatest story tellers in Hip-Hop. Lupe has wordplay while this guy has a huge variety of metaphorical concepts, vivid imagery, sentence structure and word choice. His flow is more diverse, his delivery is stronger. Unlike Lupe, Slug has been able to consistently switch his style since his debut, and as such, has definitely covered more ground musically. Listen to Lucy Ford, then God Loves Ugly, and then When Life Gives You Lemons. They're all good, but the dude's growth as an artist is amazing. He went from the dark, angsty, energetic almost battle-esque rhymer to a subtle and mature story teller that has covered topics all the way from the troubles of relationship to the faults of society to the struggles of parenting.

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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby slimshadylappin » Apr 16th, '11, 05:40

Master Chief wrote:
slimshadylappin wrote:Well first of all I doubt that Master Chief has listened to Food and Liquor and The Cool as much as Eminem albums so he doesn't notice all the clever lines and rhymes.

Second the SSLP alone has multiple weak tracks that stop it from being anywhere near the caliber of Lupe's first two.

Third Lupe does not just talk about himself. He displays topics from all places. When Eminem decides to not talk about himself he is just bashing celebraties

bashing celebrities does not = good albums
it equals a lazy way to fill up a song.

4th Lupe wordplay > Eminem's rhymes

SSLP has no fillers. If you're referring to Cum On Everybody, then not at all. The song is the weakest
song on the album but still a good song.

Who cares if Lupe doesn't talk about himself but Eminem does? Just makes Eminem's music more relateable. Eminem bashing celebrites in songs such as Without Me, The Real Slim Shady & even My Name Is, is very witty, clever and funny. He addresses issues in pop culture while being extemely technical and clever at the same time. Just proves how much more versatile Eminem is than Lupe.

Rhyming, flow, content, delivery > wordplay.

Lupe has better content and delivery
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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 16th, '11, 05:41

Tupac, do I really need an explanation here? Tupac is dead, Lupe is alive. Tupac was old school, Lupe released an album this year. Tupac had a movie made about him, Lupe made a shitty Japanese band.
I think we all know who the winner is here.

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Re: BS: Name & Debate 50 Artists Better Than Lupe Fiasco

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 05:41

VenomBlackViper wrote:Tupac, do I really need an explanation here? Tupac is dead, Lupe is alive. Tupac was old school, Lupe released an album this year. Tupac had a movie made about him, Lupe made a shitty Japanese band.
I think we all know who the winner is here.

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