There are more good white rappers than black

[Master Chief]

Sadistik is better than Tech N9ne when it comes to multis. Yes, Tech N9ne is very good at multis and has a lot of them but each Sadistik rhyme is so carefully placed and creative that they're better than Tech's.

I'm not disagreeing with flow and delivery or discog even though Balancing Act > any tech n9ne album

Sadistik has more enjoyable songs, is much better at emotional songs and I like his style better.

I'd say it's very close. Sadistik is much more consistent. But, Show Me A God, for example, is one of the best songs with one of the most complex schemes I've heard. I'd have to listen to his Sadistik's album again to determine if something of his has matched that.

K.O.D. > Sadistik's albums but I know you hate that album for some reason.

Subjective. Again at emotional songs it's close. But, because of songs like Happy Ending, One Good Time, Show Me A God, Red Nose and more importantly, F.A.N.S. I think I'd give Tech the upperhand.

[dead prez]

He included Ghostface in the OP and class said they all suck barring Biggie and Nas, I'm mad, fuck class that faggot.

[Satire]

I'm kinda mad that FreeSpeech probably has the most personal classics under his belt than anyone else on the forum.

Only a select few have undeniable classics though

[Block]

Lol@ killahbee switching around what he said.

Shut your mouth, lmaoooo

[classthe_king]

I'd say it's very close. Sadistik is much more consistent. But, Show Me A God, for example, is one of the best songs with one of the most complex schemes I've heard. I'd have to listen to his Sadistik's album again to determine if something of his has matched that.

K.O.D. > Sadistik's albums but I know you hate that album for some reason.

Subjective. Again at emotional songs it's close. But, because of songs like Happy Ending, One Good Time, Show Me A God, Red Nose and more importantly, F.A.N.S. I think I'd give Tech the upperhand.

I hated Show Me a God but this is just another of you perfer quanitity I prefer quality moments.

My momma, my momma, my momma is so tormented
She been through trauma, more drama
The dawn is gone, it's more tinted
On this side it get's out of it
How does a prophet who loved God as his father's slippin' to get the bottomless out of it?
How come an angel gotta be sick in the pancreas like she an athiest
Maybe it's the faith that is makin' this lady as crazy and has made me this skeptic
Next threat is Lupis on top of Epiliptic, Never rested
Psychiatrist forever tested, Reverend blessed it

Yeah there is a lot of multis there but they're not nearly as good as something like this

My appetites for sitting in cityscapes in black and white
Crackin' light Smittys I'm shitty faced to crash at night
The passive type, who's a lost pathetic dreamer
Terrified to be a victim with a walking dead demeanor
I'm coughing emphysema, caught in coffins in between
A cautious innocence while listening to Andre Nikatina
If you could trace my steps a couple minutes
Huh, if I get crossed you fall like London bridges
I do this for pot heads playin' sick as a teen
And insomniacs who still will raise a fist for the dream
For Street Fighter 2 and David Lynchian scenes
For Tupac Shakur and Rage Against the Machine
I'm a cynical, profitable, raw syllables I'll spit at you
Similar to the kid named Rakim will do
I'm identical to that of Pac's mental too
I rock spiritual without a break or stop interval
I'm from the state where the rain will never stop
Hendrix was from and Cobain perfected rock
A place seagulls land where the space needle stands
And fuck Bush stickers decorate people's vans
I watch the wind blow, leaves caught in limbo
Tiptoe past the season's frosty skin tone
Seein' glossy crystals, I try and catch it
Describe it all inside my Writes of Passage

I hate K.O.D, bunch of pointless bullshit.

One Good Time and Why You Ain't Callin Me are Tech's best emo songs but every song Sadistik does is emotional. Tech doesn't compare.

[classthe_king]

He included Ghostface in the OP and class said they all suck barring Biggie and Nas, I'm mad, fuck class that faggot.

I didn't say they sucked. I said they weren't good.

[Mahmoud48]

black rappers are still more sucsessful then white rappers
eminem > all so idc

[classthe_king]

The only over-par white rapper is (was) Eminem, but now NONE of your fakeass gangstas can step into the level of blac veterans such as Talib Kweli, Tech N9ne, Royce, Jay-Z, Nas & Pharoahe Monch

Even though Diaboloc steps really close behind them but it's no competition

How so?

[Master Chief]

I'd say it's very close. Sadistik is much more consistent. But, Show Me A God, for example, is one of the best songs with one of the most complex schemes I've heard. I'd have to listen to his Sadistik's album again to determine if something of his has matched that.

K.O.D. > Sadistik's albums but I know you hate that album for some reason.

Subjective. Again at emotional songs it's close. But, because of songs like Happy Ending, One Good Time, Show Me A God, Red Nose and more importantly, F.A.N.S. I think I'd give Tech the upperhand.

I hated Show Me a God but this is just another of you perfer quanitity I prefer quality moments.

My momma, my momma, my momma is so tormented
She been through trauma, more drama
The dawn is gone, it's more tinted
On this side it get's out of it
How does a prophet who loved God as his father's slippin' to get the bottomless out of it?
How come an angel gotta be sick in the pancreas like she an athiest
Maybe it's the faith that is makin' this lady as crazy and has made me this skeptic
Next threat is Lupis on top of Epiliptic, Never rested
Psychiatrist forever tested, Reverend blessed it

Yeah there is a lot of multis there but they're not nearly as good as something like this

My appetites for sitting in cityscapes in black and white
Crackin' light Smittys I'm shitty faced to crash at night
The passive type, who's a lost pathetic dreamer
Terrified to be a victim with a walking dead demeanor
I'm coughing emphysema, caught in coffins in between
A cautious innocence while listening to Andre Nikatina
If you could trace my steps a couple minutes
Huh, if I get crossed you fall like London bridges
I do this for pot heads playin' sick as a teen
And insomniacs who still will raise a fist for the dream
For Street Fighter 2 and David Lynchian scenes
For Tupac Shakur and Rage Against the Machine
I'm a cynical, profitable, raw syllables I'll spit at you
Similar to the kid named Rakim will do
I'm identical to that of Pac's mental too
I rock spiritual without a break or stop interval
I'm from the state where the rain will never stop
Hendrix was from and Cobain perfected rock
A place seagulls land where the space needle stands
And fuck Bush stickers decorate people's vans
I watch the wind blow, leaves caught in limbo
Tiptoe past the season's frosty skin tone
Seein' glossy crystals, I try and catch it
Describe it all inside my Writes of Passage

I hate K.O.D, bunch of pointless bullshit.

One Good Time and Why You Ain't Callin Me are Tech's best emo songs but every song Sadistik does is emotional. Tech doesn't compare.

tbh, the multis on Sadistik's verse on that are in more of a quanitity than in Tech's verses. But that's because the comparison you gave was unfair. You compared a few lines from a verse to a whole verse. Plus, you didn't bold Tech's rhymes. Anyways, Tech's 3rd verse is better in quality of multis and quite close in quantity.

One Good Time > *

[classthe_king]

That's because I just picked a section of it. But if you would like to explain how it's better in quality be my guest because there's not way.

[Satire]

The only over-par white rapper is (was) Eminem, but now NONE of your fakeass gangstas can step into the level of blac veterans

[Block]

The only over-par white rapper is (was) Eminem, but now NONE of your fakeass gangstas can step into the level of blac veterans such as Talib Kweli, Tech N9ne, Royce, Jay-Z, Nas & Pharoahe Monch

Even though Diaboloc steps really close behind them but it's no competition

I hope you are trolling.

[Master Chief]

Think about how all the victims of Katrina feelin'
They need a ceilin', they say that Mother Nature, she the villain
I plead in millions, the bible, I read in billions, Still I'm free to see the real
And my feet are grillin', 'cause hellish heat is buildin' up
Think my momma ain't ill enough? It's killin' us
I will erupt if they're pillin' her false, til ain't no healin' her
I been searchin' for answers, but I find nothin' but man stuff
That puts a damper on the current problem at hand bruh
Or whatever it is, I will never forgive
Anybody who take Marty, better get her to live
She's so sick that it don't matter how much cheddar I give
To the thing or the lady, here's a letter to hear
Majesty, why ain't you stoppin' these tragedies
My mother's glad to bewith you, but her life's been a raggedy one
What's gonna be done? in two thousand twelve, what hell's gonna be
When the Earth alignes with the sun

Admittedly, a few more Tech N9ne songs are more complex. For some reason SMAG jumped to my head. Seepage, Red Nose, K.O.D, Ego Trippin', The Industry Is Punks, Come Gangsta etc. are just as complex if not more.

[classthe_king]

I'm talking about quality not quantity

You're telling me that

-trina feelin
she the villain
need a ceilin
plead in millions
read in billions
feet are grillin
heat is buildin

are better rhymes than

lost pathetic dreamer
walkin dead demeanor
coughing emphysema
coffins in between a
Andre Nikatina

or that

ill enough
killin us
will erupt
hearlin her

is better than

playin sick as a teen
raise a fist for the dream
david lynchian scenes
rage against the machine


Come on man.

[FreeSpeech]

You know Freespeech, you are an unbelievably stupid piece of shit, I know you bring some decent discussion into this section, but what is this garbage? First off even if Class believes that statement, whether it's ignoramus or has some validity to it, you just sound like an asshurt troll that got his anus perforated by the eiffel tower, in some debate that you had with class, but it's off course backfiring on you. Yes, I'm mad.

As far as the notion that there are more talented white rappers as opposed to black rappers, if you take into account how many white mcs there are, I think Block has a point somewhat. But it's only natural seeing as how oversaturated the black rappers are on MTV, it's natural that there'll be a lot of garbage artists, cause with excess comes garbage. Guaranteed that if rap was run by white mcs and that the blacks were the minorities, the coin would be flipped, and you'd have people questioning why there are more dope black rappers to ratio.

Whether the best of the black rappers are better than best of the white rappers is another can of worms that I'd rather not open.

But really fuck race and just enjoy the fucking music, PS class I find it weird how you say that Biggie's delivery and voice save him from completely sucking. I thought you dont care about delivery.

Haha you're actually mad over an internet forum? Hahahaha cool mayne.

Show me one stupid thing I said here, all I did was ask Class to list as many good white rappers as black. He's delusional, he can't back up anything he says. I never even mentioned the talent ratios or anything like that, it was all these morons who turned this into Black vs. White which isn't at all what this thread was for.