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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby Raids-God » Apr 20th, '11, 04:26

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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby ShadyNarkoticz » Apr 20th, '11, 05:29

MBDTF is a classic. I hated Kanye before this album, I hear it and I was fuckin' blown away. Name another rapper that went from the most hated person on earth to being the most loved rapper recently. It's a flawless story and an album doesn't have to be insanely lyrical to be incredible.

Illmatic is one of the greatest albums ever.
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby slimsoxshady » Apr 20th, '11, 06:16

very easy for me...but some stans are about to load up on some clips and march to my door
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby stillmatic » Apr 20th, '11, 09:10

FreeSpeech wrote:Chill, I love Illmatic, it's just overrated by a lot of people. I didn't mean 15 year old kids specifically, that was just a generalization. I meant there's tons of supposed hip hop heads who honestly don't know what they're talking about that hype it just because they think they're supposed to. Yes they're great albums, but their "groundbreaking hype" is similar to Biggie and Pac's death hype if you know what I mean. Being the first doesn't make something the greatest.


You're speaking as if when the albums came out they weren't recognized as groundbreaking albums, and only as time has gone by it's been getting recognition.

One album alone from Nas put New York hip hop back at the forefront of hip hop, one album alone decimated the entire West Coast's domination, one album defeated any work that Dre, Snoop, Cube, Pac etc. did. One album.

Read on the history of hot97, back when it was Wqht and had ratings that were at an all time low and it was about to merge with Wrkss, it has been said that the shift to this type of music changed the fortunes of the station and now it's the biggest hip hop station in the world. Ed Lover has said that Illmatic single handily saved hot97, because these albums had zero airplay anywhere else, there was no means for this music to be heard anywhere else, and they still sold well when the core audience had no real idea of this music being out and who it was from. It was all underground to the realest level.

Read on the history of the most respected MC's and their thoughts on these albums when it came out, not years after, but at the time it came out. These albums are anything but overrated. And saying that kids overrate it is stupid, and the only reason I think it's really stupid is because I remember being a kid in the mid 90's and thinking (and still do) that Ilmmatic and 36 chambers was the shit. Boom pow.
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby Mikey1990 » Apr 20th, '11, 10:06

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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby KillahBee » Apr 20th, '11, 11:06

To be honest, I dn't think I'd call any album flat out overrated, for the simple fact that if I did their would most likely be a lot of people that like/love it, which would mean I either underrate it, or it just isn't my style

But, a few albums rated that are highly by hip hop heads that have never fully clicked with me would be The Documentary, Stillmatic, All Eyes One Me (would have been a killer 1 disc album though) and OB4CL Pt.2, I'd maybe add The Fix to that list aswell
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby N.W.A. » Apr 20th, '11, 12:12

stillmatic wrote:
FreeSpeech wrote:Chill, I love Illmatic, it's just overrated by a lot of people. I didn't mean 15 year old kids specifically, that was just a generalization. I meant there's tons of supposed hip hop heads who honestly don't know what they're talking about that hype it just because they think they're supposed to. Yes they're great albums, but their "groundbreaking hype" is similar to Biggie and Pac's death hype if you know what I mean. Being the first doesn't make something the greatest.


You're speaking as if when the albums came out they weren't recognized as groundbreaking albums, and only as time has gone by it's been getting recognition.

One album alone from Nas put New York hip hop back at the forefront of hip hop, one album alone decimated the entire West Coast's domination, one album defeated any work that Dre, Snoop, Cube, Pac etc. did. One album.

You know I usually agree with you, but I can't go with you that Illmatic decimated the West, I'll say it breathed new life into NY and got them back in the spotlight and showed they were a huge force in the rap game, but I can't agree it defeated everything from the West. I will back you up and say Illmatic, 36 Chambers, and I'll throw in Ready to Die, were all instant classics from the jump.
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 20th, '11, 13:40

Get Rich Or Die Tryin, easily.
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 20th, '11, 14:17

stillmatic wrote:You're speaking as if when the albums came out they weren't recognized as groundbreaking albums, and only as time has gone by it's been getting recognition.

Mmmm no I'm not? I'm just saying they have "groundbreaking hype". People loved Biggie and Pac when they first dropped, but they still have death hype.
One album alone from Nas put New York hip hop back at the forefront of hip hop, one album alone decimated the entire West Coast's domination, one album defeated any work that Dre, Snoop, Cube, Pac etc. did. One album.

Yeah, after Illmatic dropped in 94, I don't even know what the west was doing. I mean, what was that one shitty album? Everybody Lookin At Me by 2pack Shaker? IDK, the west was irrelevant after Illmatic...
Read on the history of hot97, back when it was Wqht and had ratings that were at an all time low and it was about to merge with Wrkss, it has been said that the shift to this type of music changed the fortunes of the station and now it's the biggest hip hop station in the world. Ed Lover has said that Illmatic single handily saved hot97, because these albums had zero airplay anywhere else, there was no means for this music to be heard anywhere else, and they still sold well when the core audience had no real idea of this music being out and who it was from. It was all underground to the realest level.
Good for Nas, I never said it wasn't an important album.
Read on the history of the most respected MC's and their thoughts on these albums when it came out, not years after, but at the time it came out. These albums are anything but overrated. And saying that kids overrate it is stupid, and the only reason I think it's really stupid is because I remember being a kid in the mid 90's and thinking (and still do) that Ilmmatic and 36 chambers was the shit. Boom pow.
Yeah, obviously they thought it was dope when it came out. There wasn't anything like it, that doesn't make it permanently untouchable. And stop focusing on kids, I through that out as a random example. There are plenty of older people who overrate it.
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 20th, '11, 18:38

yo,freefag telling me that u grew up in the culture over the internet doesnt validate your point.

whats there to talk to you about,u arguing that illmatic isnt groundbreaking,fuck the music,illmatic changed hip hop as a whole.

Hip hop culture doesn't equal ghetto hood rats, you stupid little shit. That is why I say you have no room to talk being from Lebanon, you don't understand anything.


you contradicted yourself,how the fuck does that make sense to anybody baffles me.

If you can listen to a song like Roses, Hey Mama, or Family Business and still deny Kanye's poetry, you're just a moron. Music is all about expression.


you have a very valid point here,but kanye sucks at expressing,maybe to him his ego is way to big he thinks hes a lyrical genius,but his raps are so cliched,simple and very badly structured,he aint a poet.

I won't be the man my mother is? Nice insult. Homie look at you and then look at me, you have man boobs you Lebanese cum guzzler. You look like you'd have a heart attack the second you tried to jog. Real manly of you.


again,you are showing the cliched personality you have.

look baracko,i dont give a fuck you are the president of the most unhealthy country ever,people live off the dollar menu of mcdonald's,gee Americans are so great and healthy.

id still beat the shit outta you,you seem like too much of a pussy that you cant punch a sofa,do u have the same clothing style that conway has too?

oh did i mention that YOU MAD!

ayo please give me one example how you are part of the culture,please do :laughing:

like it or not,hip hop is street music,you aint street = you aint part of the culture,neither am i,you just a fan of hip hop just like i am.

the general consensus is that you are a dumb ass boring member,ask around.

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i dont care if u didnt google son,u went and opened that Eminem related page and posted it here.

well great,u visit a hip hop site who thinks recovery is a 4 star album which it is,just cuz u think its overrated dont mean shit.

you a member on an Eminem forum,nobody's changing their opinion because the almighty fuckhole faggot said so. :laughing:
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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 20th, '11, 18:57

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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby ThomasJ » Apr 20th, '11, 19:05

DA, your madness is through the roof. lol

-Kanye is an underrated rapper
-MBDTF is a classic
-Recovery is a 2 star album (word to class)
-FreeSpeech is a great member because he actually makes interesting topics and has great posts, unlike 99 % of the forum

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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby EminemInsider » Apr 20th, '11, 19:06

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Re: Overrated Hip-Hop Albums

Postby Almostlity » Apr 20th, '11, 20:20

ThomasJ wrote:DA, your madness is through the roof. lol

-Kanye is an underrated rapper
-MBDTF is a classic
-Recovery is a 2 star album (word to class)
-FreeSpeech is a great member because he actually makes interesting topics and has great posts, unlike 99 % of the forum

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