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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby RealSickLindley » Apr 24th, '11, 20:32

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Devil'sAdvocate wrote:i listen to RA,Diabolic and Slug and Eyedea and Necro,came over some records from the others which i didnt like.

Y youz so surez B?

Yes I`m sure, so you`re telling me that Possessed is not better then Copy?Or Diabolic?Slug is not technically better I prefer him(I give you that),and lol @Eyedea not being better then Copy.I can deal wit Necro since he`s the type of rapper you`ll either like or hate.C`mon son lets get real here,I doubt you could name 10 songs from these rappers without googling them.

What about other rappers, Vinnie is on whole another level,its not even funny.Both RAs are better also.I doubt you even know them :coffee:


How can he prove it either way? lmao
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 20:40

So basically all his goods are about his music and all his bads have nothing to do with his music. Makes sense.

And the only white rappers better than copy would be sadistik, dzk, diabolic, possessed, spoonfull and maybe slug, I haven't got into him enough yet to make a full decision.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 24th, '11, 20:40

BILI wrote:Yes I`m sure, so you`re telling me that Possessed is not better then Copy?Or Diabolic?Slug is not technically better I prefer him(I give you that),and lol @Eyedea not being better then Copy.I can deal wit Necro since he`s the type of rapper you`ll either like or hate.C`mon son lets get real here,I doubt you could name 10 songs from these rappers without googling them.

What about other rappers, Vinnie is on whole another level,its not even funny.Both RAs are better also.I doubt you even know them :coffee:


Copywrite is a much better rapper/artist than Vinnie Paz. More accomplished flow, better delivery, better conceptually and is a more interesting rhymer. His content is also far more interesting and versatile.

Copywrite is also better than Possessed & Diabolic. Diabolic is an amazing rhymer but without his multies, he has really little else. Possessed is great, but has done little to show he's as versatile as Copy.

I haven't heard enough Eyedea or Atmosphere.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 20:54

classthe_king wrote:So basically all his goods are about his music and all his bads have nothing to do with his music. Makes sense.

No, do you even read what people write? He takes himself too seriously and has a douchey persona, this comes out in his music. I also said sometimes he has weak production and boring beats, that's his music. I also said, while I see why, his hooks could be much better, that's his music.

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Devil'sAdvocate wrote:he has the full package (pause) and can be very marketable yet he chooses to be underground,he could make it way big if he went mainstream,i hope one day does go mainstream.

-Why is that bad? What's it matter if he's underground or mainstream?
-HELL no he doesn't have the full package, are you an idiot? He's not exactly good looking, he doesn't have good radio hooks, his beats aren't real bangers. I'm not saying this to insult him, but Copywrite is basically the opposite of the "full package". You really make me wonder sometimes...


he is talented enough to make it to the mainstream,getting famous requires talent.
he does not need to be good looking,WTF thats stupid. :laughing:
he makes catchy records while still being extremely lyrical,serotonin,tic toc,june,stop,shotgun,forever and a day.....
he can get real banging beats,thats easy,he needs a better engineer tbh,the mastering on some tracks sucks
how is Eminem the full package,what was so marketable about Em back in his SSLP days,the constant ball grabbing or the blonde hair and going onstage with jordans,sweat pants and underwear,see anybody can be marketable with the right label behind him,Copy is fucking talented.

why do i make you wonder,you know shit about me?

I'm not insulting him, but...
He hasn't made a radio hit, at least not that I've heard.
His voice isn't real smooth like most mainstream artists.
You don't think looks matter? You're stupid homie.

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And you don't see what was marketable about Eminem?!?! You have to be kidding me, he himself lays it out plainly. White people buy the vast majority of hip hop and could instantly identify with him. Eminem was insanely talented, had the hottest producer. He can make great lyrical songs that are also great radio songs, Copy can't (or doesn't). He also was insanely controversial, and the figure head for rebellious teenagers. You know the hype OFWGKTA has? He was that exponentially. The fact that you don't see why Eminem was so popular really speaks to how little you know/understand.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:02

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classthe_king wrote:So basically all his goods are about his music and all his bads have nothing to do with his music. Makes sense.

No, do you even read what people write? He takes himself too seriously and has a douchey persona, this comes out in his music. I also said sometimes he has weak production and boring beats, that's his music. I also said, while I see why, his hooks could be much better, that's his music.


Him taking himself too seriously and being a douche has nothing to do with his rapping. His beats have nothing to do with him rapping. And you don't like his singing voice, which is completely an opinion cause I love his hooks when he sings, certainly much more than other rappers.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 21:07

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classthe_king wrote:So basically all his goods are about his music and all his bads have nothing to do with his music. Makes sense.

No, do you even read what people write? He takes himself too seriously and has a douchey persona, this comes out in his music. I also said sometimes he has weak production and boring beats, that's his music. I also said, while I see why, his hooks could be much better, that's his music.


Him taking himself too seriously and being a douche has nothing to do with his rapping. His beats have nothing to do with him rapping. And you don't like his singing voice, which is completely an opinion cause I love his hooks when he sings, certainly much more than other rappers.

You said that "all his bads have nothing to do with his music." His beats have 100% to do with his music, are you joking right now? How he comes across in his songs (e.g. taking himself too seriously and having a douchey persona) has 100% to do with his music. If you like his persona, OK, Kanye is one of my favorites and he's kinda the posterboy for douchebags, but I just don't like Copy's persona. He seems, IN HIS MUSIC, to be very bitter and jealous that he never blew up.

And yes everything is obviously opinions, read the title of the thread moron. That's my opinion.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:13

OMG :facepalm I'd like to see you cite one instance where his "douchey persona" has negitavely influenced his music. And no, his beats have nothing to do with him as a RAPPER. It's just his preference for beats, which some people actually like. All we've established here is that the good things about him are solid facts while the bad things are shakey opinions that are going to be different to everyone. Hmmmm, this isn't the first time we've seen this happen.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 21:24

classthe_king wrote:OMG :facepalm I'd like to see you cite one instance where his "douchey persona" has negitavely influenced his music. And no, his beats have nothing to do with him as a RAPPER. It's just his preference for beats, which some people actually like. All we've established here is that the good things about him are solid facts while the bad things are shakey opinions that are going to be different to everyone. Hmmmm, this isn't the first time we've seen this happen.

:facepalm <Ooh my opinion is more valid now! You didn't say rapper, you said music. Read what you wrote. You can have dope lyrics and still make shitty music (I'm not saying Copy is shitty). Focusing 100% on lyricism is stupid, it's only one component. To be a great, you have to have everything.

And when has his douchey persona hurt his music? The Asher Roth diss made him look like a jealous never-been, which is a shame. I don't want to here him bitch and moan in his music.

Judging from what I've seen of your posts, you don't care about artists outside of their actual music. I do, as do many other people. Rappers are more than their actual songs.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:33

FreeSpeech wrote: :facepalm <Ooh my opinion is more valid now! You didn't say rapper, you said music. Read what you wrote. You can have dope lyrics and still make shitty music (I'm not saying Copy is shitty). Focusing 100% on lyricism is stupid, it's only one component. To be a great, you have to have everything.


Well the beats still have nothing to do with him as a rapper so this is all invalid, and I fixed myself and said as a rapper the second time, so why don't you learn to read ;)

FreeSpeech wrote: And when has his douchey persona hurt his music? The Asher Roth diss made him look like a jealous never-been, which is a shame. I don't want to here him bitch and moan in his music.


So...it hasn't lmao. Maybe you thought it made him look like a jealous never-been but that still has nothing to do with him as a rapper :laughing: And you don't want to listen to him bitch and moan? So...you don't ever want to listen to emotional rap songs, cool.

FreeSpeech wrote: Judging from what I've seen of your posts, you don't care about artists outside of their actual music. I do, as do many other people. Rappers are more than their actual songs.


Yeah that makes perfect sense :y: I do that with movies too, I refuse to watch any movie with Robin Williams in it because he used to be a coke head. :coffee:
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:35

Copy in no way copied Eminem's flow lolz
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby macdaddy019967 » Apr 24th, '11, 21:35

ive listened to this guys music and i dont see how some people can praise him
i mean sure he has good lyrics but his music is boring as shit
lyrics with shit content = garbage
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:37

macdaddy019967 wrote:ive listened to this guys music and i dont see how some people can praise him
i mean sure he has good lyrics but his music is boring as shit
lyrics with shit content = garbage


Yeah, I'd much rather listen to 50 Cent rap about selling drugs, guns, bithes and money too!!!
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby macdaddy019967 » Apr 24th, '11, 21:41

classthe_king wrote:
macdaddy019967 wrote:ive listened to this guys music and i dont see how some people can praise him
i mean sure he has good lyrics but his music is boring as shit
lyrics with shit content = garbage


Yeah, I'd much rather listen to 50 Cent rap about selling drugs, guns, bithes and money too!!!

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exactly, copywrite should take some notes
what makes an artist great is image, quality of material, and performance
and copywrite fails in all of those areas
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby DƎRDYPK » Apr 24th, '11, 21:43

MHz is the shit. Weathermen is the shit. Copy's dope
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 21:44

Well the beats still have nothing to do with him as a rapper so this is all invalid, and I fixed myself and said as a rapper the second time, so why don't you learn to read ;)

I was addressing and still am his music as a whole. Lyricism is only one component.

So...it hasn't lmao. Maybe you thought it made him look like a jealous never-been but that still has nothing to do with him as a rapper :laughing: And you don't want to listen to him bitch and moan? So...you don't ever want to listen to emotional rap songs, cool.

Again, we're not talking about his technical rapping abilities, but his music as a whole idiot. And emotional doesn't mean bitching and moaning. Like we've all said, everything here is opinion. I'm sure someone could make a very convincing argument that all Rock Bottom is is bitching and moaning, I still like it. It's OPINION, it's in the thread title.

Sorry, but i am gonna jump in....
Hmm, well in that case Kanye is below average because lyrically even Lil Wayne could murder him.
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Oh, man don't even open up that bullshit point to the table, being a douche is one thing and stating facts is another.
Being a douche, is what Kanye is doing, yet everyone says he's speaking his mind man!
Stating facts is what Copy have done (except for the copying Eminem's flow).
P.S. There is another thing called "Pretentious" that's what Jay-Z have done all his life, being pretentious. That didn't seem to hurt his music or his image to the public.

The fact that you think Lil Wayne would murder Kanye lyrically is laughable. I'm not gonna turn this into a Kanye debate, so bitch away, it doesn't matter.

And pretentious isn't the same thing as cocky...
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