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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:44

Revolutionary wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Copy in no way copied Eminem's flow lolz


I was referring to his Asher Roth line :y:


oh alrighttt, I was like whaat? lulz
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:46

FreeSpeech wrote:I was addressing and still am his music as a whole. Lyricism is only one component.


You're right. Flow is another component, delivery is a component, subject matter is also a component. His beats is NOT a component of him, so dissing Copy's beats is not dissing Copy as a rapper.

FreeSpeech wrote:Again, we're not talking about his technical rapping abilities, but his music as a whole idiot. And emotional doesn't mean bitching and moaning. Like we've all said, everything here is opinion. I'm sure someone could make a very convincing argument that all Rock Bottom is is bitching and moaning, I still like it. It's OPINION, it's in the thread title.


And him being a douche has nothing to do with his music as a whole, this has already been established. And you like when Eminem bitches and moans but not when Copy does, cool.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 21:52

You're right. Flow is another component, delivery is a component, subject matter is also a component. His beats is NOT a component of him, so dissing Copy's beats is not dissing Copy as a rapper.

Oh. My. God. Are you honestly that stupid? I can't say it any clearer: I am not talking about him as a rapper, but his music.

And him being a douche has nothing to do with his music as a whole, this has already been established. And you like when Eminem bitches and moans but not when Copy does, cool.

Yes, it does, because it comes across in some of his songs and makes me not like them. You see, music is made in songs, so if I don't like some of his songs, I don't like some of his music. Get it? I'll give you a couple minutes to work that one out.

And I like a lot of Copy's stuff. Tic Toc is great and it's depressing. And Eminem's GOAT song sucks because he comes across as a pompous jealous ass.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 21:54

Revolutionary wrote:Lol @FreeSpeech running away from a Kanye debate, i laughed so hard that i wasn't shocked :zipped:

Why would I ruin the thread dumbass? We could go back and forth posting lyrics from each one, why bother? I dont honestly care if you think Wayne's better, and it's completely irrelevant to this thread. I've made tons of posts about Kanye's lyricism, it just has no place here.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 21:55

FreeSpeech wrote:Oh. My. God. Are you honestly that stupid? I can't say it any clearer: I am not talking about him as a rapper, but his music.


But I am talking about him as a rapper :unsure:

FreeSpeech wrote:Yes, it does, because it comes across in some of his songs and makes me not like them. You see, music is made in songs, so if I don't like some of his songs, I don't like some of his music. Get it? I'll give you a couple minutes to work that one out.

And I like a lot of Copy's stuff. Tic Toc is great and it's depressing. And Eminem's GOAT song sucks because he comes across as a pompous jealous ass.


That's just bullshit and you know it, him being a douche does not come out in his songs.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 22:00

classthe_king wrote:
FreeSpeech wrote:Oh. My. God. Are you honestly that stupid? I can't say it any clearer: I am not talking about him as a rapper, but his music.


But I am talking about him as a rapper :unsure:

FreeSpeech wrote:Yes, it does, because it comes across in some of his songs and makes me not like them. You see, music is made in songs, so if I don't like some of his songs, I don't like some of his music. Get it? I'll give you a couple minutes to work that one out.

And I like a lot of Copy's stuff. Tic Toc is great and it's depressing. And Eminem's GOAT song sucks because he comes across as a pompous jealous ass.


That's just bullshit and you know it, him being a douche does not come out in his songs.

It does across in some songs. I've started liking Copy more and more, and he's very talented as a technical rapper. I've actually started to love some of his songs, but the things I've already pointed out, I don't like. Get it?
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 24th, '11, 22:01

@freespeech

he makes catchy hip hop,he has some catchy hooks.

Yes looks dont really matter,Jay looks like a camel for fucks sake yet he is considered the goat by alot of people,its the rapping what matters,Em looks good it helped him sell,he himself doesnt even know this.

newsflash B,Copy is white too,Copy can make lyrical catchy songs,he already did.

My point is that copy is mega talented,he deserves way more exposure and a bigger fan base.

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the personality affects the music,dudes i dont give a fuck in life and in his music,cant deny that.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 22:06

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:@freespeech

he makes catchy hip hop,he has some catchy hooks.

Yes looks dont really matter,Jay looks like a camel for fucks sake yet he is considered the goat by alot of people,its the rapping what matters,Em looks good it helped him sell,he himself doesnt even know this.

newsflash B,Copy is white too,Copy can make lyrical catchy songs,he already did.

My point is that copy is mega talented,he deserves way more exposure and a bigger fan base.

Eminem doesn't know that? So who wrote those White America lyrics, Dre? Idiot.

And yes there are some "ugly" rappers, but typically you have to be somewhat goodlooking. Let's just leave it with that, I'm not trying to debate the best looking rapper with you :facepalm

Copy has catchy stuff, yes, but in general his music is not tailored to the radio whatsoever. I didn't realize that wasn't obvious, you apparently can't wrap your mind around that concept.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby dshady89 » Apr 24th, '11, 22:15

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:Yes looks dont really matter,Jay looks like a camel for fucks sake yet he is considered the goat by alot of people,its the rapping what matters,Em looks good it helped him sell,he himself doesnt even know this.


Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself, if they were brown, Shady lose, Shady
Sits on the shelf, but Shady's cute, Shady knew, Shady's dimple's would help, make ladies swoon
Baby, {ooh baby}, look at my sales, let's do the math, if I was black, I would've sold half, I
Ain't have to graduate from Lincoln high school to know that...


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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 24th, '11, 22:16

dshady89 wrote:
Devil'sAdvocate wrote:Yes looks dont really matter,Jay looks like a camel for fucks sake yet he is considered the goat by alot of people,its the rapping what matters,Em looks good it helped him sell,he himself doesnt even know this.


Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself, if they were brown, Shady lose, Shady
Sits on the shelf, but Shady's cute, Shady knew, Shady's dimple's would help, make ladies swoon
Baby, {ooh baby}, look at my sales, let's do the math, if I was black, I would've sold half, I
Ain't have to graduate from Lincoln high school to know that...


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I already quoted that to him. Give him a couple hours, he'll catch on...
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby One Mic » Apr 24th, '11, 22:19

Shit flow, boring voice... puts me to sleep. Only hippies and nerds want to listen to that bullshit pretentious dictionary rap that he provides, has no redeeming qualities.

Also needs to find a proper job.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby classthe_king » Apr 24th, '11, 22:29

One Mic wrote:Shit flow, boring voice... puts me to sleep. Only hippies and nerds want to listen to that bullshit pretentious dictionary rap that he provides, has no redeeming qualities.

Also needs to find a proper job.


Obvious troll is obvious.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby One Mic » Apr 24th, '11, 22:30

classthe_king wrote:Obvious troll is obvious.

Obvious hippie/nerd is obvious.

For the record, I don't troll. If you can't handle the truth that's your problem.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby BILI » Apr 24th, '11, 22:31

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:ok,suit yourself bro.

i wanted to come here and start debating but once you said that possessed is better than copywrite,i decided not too.

the key word for everybody on you're list that i dont listen too is that monotones delivery and bad flow and being pretentious.

You decided not too?Just for the record,will you please explain me in what aspect of rap is Copy better then Possessed except maybe for the flow?



Master Chief wrote:Only ones close are Diabolic, Apathy & Mac.

How?In your opinion?Cause Aesop is much better writer,same with RA,all the rappers I posted are at least better in some aspect, oh and I dont even know why did I mention Possessed.Copy shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence


MikeNUFC wrote:Copywrite is a much better rapper/artist than Vinnie Paz. More accomplished flow, better delivery, better conceptually and is a more interesting rhymer. His content is also far more interesting and versatile.

Copywrite is also better than Possessed & Diabolic. Diabolic is an amazing rhymer but without his multies, he has really little else. Possessed is great, but has done little to show he's as versatile as Copy.

I haven't heard enough Eyedea or Atmosphere.

Copywrite can be better artists then Vinnie,I mean his flow and his well written hooks wit better beats do make him sound more artistic,but a better rapper?Hell no,only thing I`ll give to Copy is his flow,I like both Pazs and Copys delivery(even tho I can understand why someone wouldnt like Vinnies),as far as concepts,Paz did everything,just listen to his 1st albums with JMT and now wit AOTP,he did everything,mostly hardcore,but there was emotional,horrorcore,etc...

As far as Diabolic,yeah he in the same category as Copy,if I had to choose between the 2,it would all depend on my mood.

I dont even want to talk about Possessed,greatest white rapper.He`s not versatile?Check that thread Xray made like few weeks ago.
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Re: Copywrite opinions?

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 24th, '11, 22:34

BILI wrote:I dont even want to talk about Possessed,greatest white rapper.He`s not versatile?Check that thread Xray made like few weeks ago.

I never said he wasn't versatile - I said he's not as versatile as Copy.
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