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Re: The "Biggest" Rappers Ever?

Postby Cokebottle » Apr 27th, '11, 04:11

VenomBlackViper wrote:I'm stating what I see happening, I see no difference between Lil Wayne & the likes of Nelly, Ja Rule & Master P. Hot shit at the time, garbage later. If Wayne is still relevant in 10 years i'll be proven wrong but from the kind of music he makes & how almost everyone who isn't a radio listener regards him as trash I just don't see him staying relevant. Has nothing to do with my dislike, I'm not a huge fan of Pac, Biggie or Jay Z but they're going to be relevant in 10 years Wayne isn't.

'Almost everyone who isn't a radio lsitener regards him as trash'

This alone tells me you have never been in any sort of Hip Hop community, you are stuck in the forum world of 'Gay Z' 'Lil Gayne' and 'Nas Lost'. I live in Queens, and when Carter 2 hit, it was CRAZY and that was when people were hating on the South. Hate it or not, Wayne stayed relevent for years and sold well mostly because NONE pop radio listeners liked his mixtapes and Carter 1 and 2. Even though some of these people were put off by lollipop and that rebirth trash he still has a massive solid following here because of the music he put out during those years and always will have. Regardless of this it doesn't change the fact he has MANY Die hard fans that may or not be radio listeners and he will be remembered.
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Re: The "Biggest" Rappers Ever?

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 27th, '11, 04:30

Cokebottle wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:I'm stating what I see happening, I see no difference between Lil Wayne & the likes of Nelly, Ja Rule & Master P. Hot shit at the time, garbage later. If Wayne is still relevant in 10 years i'll be proven wrong but from the kind of music he makes & how almost everyone who isn't a radio listener regards him as trash I just don't see him staying relevant. Has nothing to do with my dislike, I'm not a huge fan of Pac, Biggie or Jay Z but they're going to be relevant in 10 years Wayne isn't.

'Almost everyone who isn't a radio lsitener regards him as trash'

This alone tells me you have never been in any sort of Hip Hop community, you are stuck in the forum world of 'Gay Z' 'Lil Gayne' and 'Nas Lost'. I live in Queens, and when Carter 2 hit, it was CRAZY and that was when people were hating on the South. Hate it or not, Wayne stayed relevent for years and sold well mostly because NONE pop radio listeners liked his mixtapes and Carter 1 and 2. Even though some of these people were put off by lollipop and that rebirth trash he still has a massive solid following here because of the music he put out during those years and always will have. Regardless of this it doesn't change the fact he has MANY Die hard fans that may or not be radio listeners and he will be remembered.


Forum world of Gay Z & Nas lost? What? I never said either of them aren't relevant because they definitely are, but Wayne isn't. There isn't shit to argue about anymore this is sounding like a broken record now, everyone has their set of die hard fans but is Wayne going to have enough to put himself in the same list as Pac, Em, Biggie, Nas, Snoop & Jay? I don't fucking think so, you do, wait 10 years & we'll see what the fuck happens. Until then this shit is going nowhere.
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Re: The "Biggest" Rappers Ever?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 27th, '11, 04:56

VenomBlackViper wrote:
Cokebottle wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:I'm stating what I see happening, I see no difference between Lil Wayne & the likes of Nelly, Ja Rule & Master P. Hot shit at the time, garbage later. If Wayne is still relevant in 10 years i'll be proven wrong but from the kind of music he makes & how almost everyone who isn't a radio listener regards him as trash I just don't see him staying relevant. Has nothing to do with my dislike, I'm not a huge fan of Pac, Biggie or Jay Z but they're going to be relevant in 10 years Wayne isn't.

'Almost everyone who isn't a radio lsitener regards him as trash'

This alone tells me you have never been in any sort of Hip Hop community, you are stuck in the forum world of 'Gay Z' 'Lil Gayne' and 'Nas Lost'. I live in Queens, and when Carter 2 hit, it was CRAZY and that was when people were hating on the South. Hate it or not, Wayne stayed relevent for years and sold well mostly because NONE pop radio listeners liked his mixtapes and Carter 1 and 2. Even though some of these people were put off by lollipop and that rebirth trash he still has a massive solid following here because of the music he put out during those years and always will have. Regardless of this it doesn't change the fact he has MANY Die hard fans that may or not be radio listeners and he will be remembered.


Forum world of Gay Z & Nas lost? What?

He (I assume) is saying you have an opinion molded by forum "hip hop heads" not that you necesarilly said that.
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Re: The "Biggest" Rappers Ever?

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 27th, '11, 05:03

FreeSpeech wrote:He (I assume) is saying you have an opinion molded by forum "hip hop heads" not that you necesarilly said that.

If that was true i'd be a huge fan of the likes of Nas, Jay Z, Tupac, Biggie, Wu Tang, NWA ect but i'm not. I respect what they've done & how many they've influenced but none of them are in my top 10 or top 20 for that matter. I'm not saying Wayne won't be relevant because I dislike him i'm saying that because it's what I see happening.
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Re: The "Biggest" Rappers Ever?

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 27th, '11, 05:06

VenomBlackViper wrote:
FreeSpeech wrote:He (I assume) is saying you have an opinion molded by forum "hip hop heads" not that you necesarilly said that.

If that was true i'd be a huge fan of the likes of Nas, Jay Z, Tupac, Biggie, Wu Tang, NWA ect but i'm not. I respect what they've done & how many they've influenced but none of them are in my top 10 or top 20 for that matter. I'm not saying Wayne won't be relevant because I dislike him i'm saying that because it's what I see happening.

Ummmmmm what exact type of rappers ARE in your top 20? If Pac, Jay or Nas aren't?
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Re: The "Biggest" Rappers Ever?

Postby VenomBlackViper » Apr 27th, '11, 05:17

FreeSpeech wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:
FreeSpeech wrote:He (I assume) is saying you have an opinion molded by forum "hip hop heads" not that you necesarilly said that.

If that was true i'd be a huge fan of the likes of Nas, Jay Z, Tupac, Biggie, Wu Tang, NWA ect but i'm not. I respect what they've done & how many they've influenced but none of them are in my top 10 or top 20 for that matter. I'm not saying Wayne won't be relevant because I dislike him i'm saying that because it's what I see happening.

Ummmmmm what exact type of rappers ARE in your top 20? If Pac, Jay or Nas aren't?

Rhyme Asylum, AOTP/JMT (well Celph Titled, Apathy & Vinnie Paz at least) DZK, Necro, Slim Shady (Em 97-01) Tech N9ne, Hopsin, Brotha Lynch Hung, Diabolic, Copywrite, Mac Dre. Nas is actually in my top 20 as well, out of all of the "classic" rappers he's probably the only one who I don't find overrated (along with Big L & Big Pun if they count)
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