America's Reaction To Bin Laden's Death

[MikeNUFC]

Anyone find this weird?

People going to the White House chanting 'USA' and celebrating like hell - yeah, an evil man who killed thousands of people and started wars is dead. Is that really cause to go absolute insane and throw a party? There's something really odd about that. His actions are still felt today.

Not to mention the constant "justice" quotes. Not sure how this is justice in any way at all.

What pissed me off the most was some of the ignorance. This is honestly what some women on the news said:

"I know it'll have an effect politically, but right now, this is for America to celebrate"

Why do some Americans think they're the only ones to have been effected by Bin Laden?

The change of story is pretty weird as well. One minute, he was armed, next he wasn't. One minute, he held his wife as a shield, the next he didn't. I think they could have captured and tried him (this would have been the best thing, imo), but were worried about what he'd say in terms of his links with America and it's intellegence.

This is a great article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 78041.html

[Slimm]

It's something that left me kind of wondering as well, just feels weird in a way. There are other things that bother me about the whole thing as well but I haven't really made my mind up about what to think (dropping his body in the ocean?). And this may sound weird as well but isn't everyone allowed a fair trial? Something is just off about America making/bending their own rules, that's nothing new though.

I don't even care that he's dead, but partying about it? Chanting USA? I don't get it.

[Maybe]

It's something that left me kind of wondering as well, just feels weird in a way. There are other things that bother me about the whole thing as well but I haven't really made my mind up about what to think (dropping his body in the ocean?). And this may sound weird as well but isn't everyone allowed a fair trial? Something is just off about America making/bending their own rules, that's nothing new though.

I don't even care that he's dead, but partying about it? Chanting USA? I don't get it.

Should Hitler have been allowed a fair trial? Not at all. I agree that Bin Laden should have received the death penalty, but I question their methods and general approach to the situation. Dropping his body in the ocean sounds like a cover-up to me, and I wouldn't doubt it if it wasn't even him we killed, if anyone was killed at all. It seems to me that something like this (a supposed cause for celebration) happens every time the Government excepts its people to disagree with yet another destructive move on their side.

But, I do agree that it's a bit weird that Americans are celebrating to begin with. This isn't really a cause for celebration, let alone partying and chanting USA. It seems American will take any excuse given. As a non-American living in the USA, I can say first hand that this country operates like a ventriloquist, and most citizens are dolls with arm-size-holes on their ass. This, to me, seems like another ploy for the US Government to do something stupid without its people giving it too much grief.

I say the country plummets further down hill, and the war continues because Bin Laden was nothing more than a poster boy for terrorism. For example, you could destroy the first McDonald's, but that won't make the others crumble to the ground as well.

[MikeNUFC]

Talking about Hitler, the article I posted mentions this:

When the time came to consider the fate of men much more steeped in wickedness than Bin Laden – the Nazi leadership – the British government wanted them hanged within six hours of capture. President Truman demurred, citing the conclusion of Justice Robert Jackson that summary execution “would not sit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride? The only course is to determine the innocence or guilt of the accused after a hearing as dispassionate as the times will permit and upon a record that will leave our reasons and motives clear”. He insisted upon judgment at Nuremberg, which has confounded Holocaust-deniers ever since.

[Slimm]

It's something that left me kind of wondering as well, just feels weird in a way. There are other things that bother me about the whole thing as well but I haven't really made my mind up about what to think (dropping his body in the ocean?). And this may sound weird as well but isn't everyone allowed a fair trial? Something is just off about America making/bending their own rules, that's nothing new though.

I don't even care that he's dead, but partying about it? Chanting USA? I don't get it.

Should Hitler have been allowed a fair trial? Not at all. I agree that Bin Laden should have received the death penalty, but I question their methods and general approach to the situation. Dropping his body in the ocean sounds like a cover-up to me, and I wouldn't doubt it if it wasn't even him we killed, if anyone was killed at all. It seems to me that something like this (a supposed cause for celebration) happens every time the Government excepts its people to disagree with yet another destructive move on their side.

But, I do agree that it's a bit weird that Americans are celebrating to begin with. This isn't really a cause for celebration, let alone partying and chanting USA. It seems American will take any excuse given. As a non-American living in the USA, I can say first hand that this country operates like a ventriloquist, and most citizens are dolls with arm-size-holes on their ass. This, to me, seems like another ploy for the US Government to do something stupid without its people giving it too much grief.

I say the country plummets further down hill, and the war continues because Bin Laden was nothing more than a poster boy for terrorism. For example, you could destroy the first McDonald's, but that won't make the others crumble to the ground as well.

Well what I meant was that I obviously dont mind people like Hitler or Osama getting killed, but it is hypocrisy up to a certain level right? It is the law they have created themselves. I agree with you that I think in some cases and for some people there just can't be a fair trial, so my point is not really my opinion but it is something I've been thinking about the last few days. Top figure nazi's are getting fair trials, so do war criminals from the Kosovo war etc. I don't really know how to explain myself well, it's just a mixture of emotions and thoughts going through me.

Have you read 1984 by George Orwell? The whole celebrating Americans issue is really Orwellian. Pick a bad guy, make them hate him, kill him, make them chant USA and you gain more control.

[ChristinaE12]

I agree with pretty much everything said.. And I'm American..

I must say though, the people celebrating are fuckin retards. Don't think all American's are the same or even think remotely close to some of these fucking idiots. Not saying you all do but some people do think that all of America is that way. But there are idiots all across the world.

[MikeNUFC]

I agree with pretty much everything said.. And I'm American..

I must say though, the people celebrating are fuckin retards. Don't think all American's are the same or even think remotely close to some of these fucking idiots. Not saying you all do but some people do think that all of America is that way. But there are idiots all across the world.

Don't worry, I wouldn't generalise like that.

[MikeNUFC]

Well what I meant was that I obviously dont mind people like Hitler or Osama getting killed, but it is hypocrisy up to a certain level right? It is the law they have created themselves. I agree with you that I think in some cases and for some people there just can't be a fair trial, so my point is not really my opinion but it is something I've been thinking about the last few days. Top figure nazi's are getting fair trials, so do war criminals from the Kosovo war etc. I don't really know how to explain myself well, it's just a mixture of emotions and thoughts going through me.

I felt the same. That article I posted summed up my thoughts so well, putting in a way I couldn't write haha

[Xray]

Their not partying because Osama died, their celebrating because they want the slightest reason to have a holiday - bunch of fucking drunks if you ask me. If anyone should be celebrating, it's middle-east and all the muslims in the world. Finally, the second biggest threat to our remaining population is dead. You know why were not happy though? It's because these brainwashed idiots aren't happy that Osama died, their happy they have a reason to be racist out in the public again. It's fucking disgusting. You would think racism would decrease by Osama's death, after all he is the leader of "Al-Qaeda" isn't he? Hell fucking no, not until every single muslim and the entire middle-east is whipped out of the planet, this terrorist bullshit will never end. The target was never one, it was all.

[classthe_king]

I was watching a baseball game and when they announced it the whole stadium started chanting USA. I was like da fuck?

[Maybe]

It's something that left me kind of wondering as well, just feels weird in a way. There are other things that bother me about the whole thing as well but I haven't really made my mind up about what to think (dropping his body in the ocean?). And this may sound weird as well but isn't everyone allowed a fair trial? Something is just off about America making/bending their own rules, that's nothing new though.

I don't even care that he's dead, but partying about it? Chanting USA? I don't get it.

Should Hitler have been allowed a fair trial? Not at all. I agree that Bin Laden should have received the death penalty, but I question their methods and general approach to the situation. Dropping his body in the ocean sounds like a cover-up to me, and I wouldn't doubt it if it wasn't even him we killed, if anyone was killed at all. It seems to me that something like this (a supposed cause for celebration) happens every time the Government excepts its people to disagree with yet another destructive move on their side.

But, I do agree that it's a bit weird that Americans are celebrating to begin with. This isn't really a cause for celebration, let alone partying and chanting USA. It seems American will take any excuse given. As a non-American living in the USA, I can say first hand that this country operates like a ventriloquist, and most citizens are dolls with arm-size-holes on their ass. This, to me, seems like another ploy for the US Government to do something stupid without its people giving it too much grief.

I say the country plummets further down hill, and the war continues because Bin Laden was nothing more than a poster boy for terrorism. For example, you could destroy the first McDonald's, but that won't make the others crumble to the ground as well.

Well what I meant was that I obviously dont mind people like Hitler or Osama getting killed, but it is hypocrisy up to a certain level right? It is the law they have created themselves. I agree with you that I think in some cases and for some people there just can't be a fair trial, so my point is not really my opinion but it is something I've been thinking about the last few days. Top figure nazi's are getting fair trials, so do war criminals from the Kosovo war etc. I don't really know how to explain myself well, it's just a mixture of emotions and thoughts going through me.

Have you read 1984 by George Orwell? The whole celebrating Americans issue is really Orwellian. Pick a bad guy, make them hate him, kill him, make them chant USA and you gain more control.

You always manage to reference something that clearly defines the situation haha. I agree, George Orwell had it pegged. It's a method of puppetry, and unfortunately (Like Xray said), the bunch of idiot drunks fall through.

[Kez]

I find it disgusting to celebrate anyone's death, purely on a moral basis. Yeah (if what we are told is to be believed) he was an awful man, but how does it make you any better when you celebrate someone's DEATH? That's fucking inhuman and monstrous. There's a good bunch of people in my life that I hate, but if they died I wouldn't go dance on their grave. Maybe if i swallowed news media sludge like a greedy pig at a trough and believed Bin Laden to be the man to blame for everything bad in the world, I might feel like you do, but i don't.

I would truly be worried to live in America because, and I dont wanna be judgemental here, but most of them seem to be flag-waving hick fucks. The fact that 4Chan puts "America fuck yeah" on autoplay in celebration and half its userbase genuinely uses it as some kind of anthem even though the song is mocking stupid fucks like that just says it all.

The dropping him in the sea thing is so fucking strange as well. That's the kind of thing fucking mafia men do. What, they couldn't let someone take some proof before they did it, or film it or SOMETHING just so no conspiracy theories start up? Why not? Would it have been that much effort? When they captured Saddam Hussein they fucking broadcast him being shaved! Is a video clip of throwing his dead body into the sea too much to ask for, especially in this day and age where everyone knew about his death within 5 minutes of it being announced?

And I don't wanna hear shit off any Americans about how they have the right to feel this way because of 9/11; by celebrating his death (and no doubt the death of muslims in general) you are basically the same as Al Queda jumping in laughter while they watch your towers fall down.

And Xray's got a point, I feel fuckin sorry for Muslims. Scapegoats if you ask me. The government has done an amazing job at making the world at large see Muslims as their enemy. I meet so many people here in the UK who hate them for no real justifiable reason, it sickens me. I know people who say they can't wait for a "civil war" to start so that they can kill some! I'm like yeah, the Muslims are totally the bad guys here.

[Maybe]

I find it disgusting to celebrate anyone's death, purely on a moral basis. Yeah (if what we are told is to be believed) he was an awful man, but how does it make you any better when you celebrate someone's DEATH? That's fucking inhuman and monstrous. There's a good bunch of people in my life that I hate, but if they died I wouldn't go dance on their grave. Maybe if i swallowed news media sludge like a greedy pig at a trough and believed Bin Laden to be the man to blame for everything bad in the world, I might feel like you do, but i don't.

I would truly be worried to live in America because, and I dont wanna be judgemental here, but most of them seem to be flag-waving hick fucks. The fact that 4Chan puts "America fuck yeah" on autoplay in celebration and half its userbase genuinely uses it as some kind of anthem even though the song is mocking stupid fucks like that just says it all.

The dropping him in the sea thing is so fucking strange as well. That's the kind of thing fucking mafia men do. What, they couldn't let someone take some proof before they did it, or film it or SOMETHING just so no conspiracy theories start up? Why not? Would it have been that much effort? When they captured Saddam Hussein they fucking broadcast him being shaved! Is a video clip of throwing his dead body into the sea too much to ask for, especially in this day and age where everyone knew about his death within 5 minutes of it being announced?

And I don't wanna hear shit off any Americans about how they have the right to feel this way because of 9/11; by celebrating his death (and no doubt the death of muslims in general) you are basically the same as Al Queda jumping in laughter while they watch your towers fall down.

And Xray's got a point, I feel fuckin sorry for Muslims. Scapegoats if you ask me. The government has done an amazing job at making the world at large see Muslims as their enemy. I meet so many people here in the UK who hate them for no real justifiable reason, it sickens me. I know people who say they can't wait for a "civil war" to start so that they can kill some! I'm like yeah, the Muslims are totally the bad guys here.

[Xray]

^I feel more sorry for everyone else in the middle-east that aren't muslim and all the arabs around the world. They have to face racism even though some of these people follow the same religion Americans do. Damn if I was living in America right now I would be watching over my shoulder in case I get jumped. I wonder how many Americans got locked up for going berserk. Probably none. If the President can bend the rules for his own liking and get away with it, what kind of role model does that make him?

[ThomasAguanis]

Kez, your first paragraph is exactly how I feel on this matter. Not many people I personally spoke to about this feel the same way. It's good to see most people here are on the same page. All this "celebrating" is completly ridiculous.