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Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 8th, '11, 07:05

classthe_king wrote:If DZK got involved it would be all over...


No it wouldn't, lol. DZK is mediocre at best. There's dozens of people on Rapmusic.com who are better than him (check old GRB's, he's only won once or twice I think.. And he signed up every year) I'm not sure why you idolize him so much, honestly.. He's a mediocre lyricist with decent concepts. I should say WAS a mediocre lyricist. He's not even that anymore.. He tried to go mainstream and failed hard.

DZK is okay at making SONGS, but he's terrible at disses. Joey would eat him alive. Bux, on the other hand, is a different story. I've never seen ANYONE who is as good at disses as bux is. Ever.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby UzaKING » May 8th, '11, 09:11

Block wrote: Bux, on the other hand, is a different story. I've never seen ANYONE who is as good at disses as bux is. Ever.


Yeah Bux is a beast. Have you seen him in this battle?

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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 8th, '11, 09:21

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Block wrote: Bux, on the other hand, is a different story. I've never seen ANYONE who is as good at disses as bux is. Ever.


Yeah Bux is a beast. Have you seen him in this battle?



I'm pretty sure that was an attempt at sarcasm that failed miserably on your part. Dissing on wax and street battling face to face are two totally different entities. To compare one to the other is like comparing the taste of apples and oranges, just because they are both fruits.

No one can touch Bux on wax. No one.


If you were being serious, that's a terrible showing of his skill. I saw that when it first came out.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby UzaKING » May 8th, '11, 09:51

Block wrote:I'm pretty sure that was an attempt at sarcasm that failed miserably on your part. Dissing on wax and street battling face to face are two totally different entities. To compare one to the other is like comparing the taste of apples and oranges, just because they are both fruits.

No one can touch Bux on wax. No one.


If you were being serious, that's a terrible showing of his skill. I saw that when it first came out.


Yeah I agree Bux is one of if not the best battlers. I just posted that video to see your reaction hah.
But Bux really needs to redeem himself at KOTD or another league. I'm sure if he gets another chance he's going to slaughter his opponent.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 8th, '11, 10:40

classthe_king wrote:If DZK got involved it would be all over...


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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Xray » May 8th, '11, 12:05

Arsonal's diss was pretty dope. His voice and delivery sounds similar to Chino XL, not that I'm trying to take anything away from the man cause the song is dope. I wouldn't mind checking out more of his material. And about Joey. Only his fans and only his fans think Joey is top 5. I probably like 1 Joey track out of every 30. Canibus in his prime would murder Joey like a child.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 8th, '11, 14:17

Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:If DZK got involved it would be all over...


No it wouldn't, lol. DZK is mediocre at best. There's dozens of people on Rapmusic.com who are better than him (check old GRB's, he's only won once or twice I think.. And he signed up every year) I'm not sure why you idolize him so much, honestly.. He's a mediocre lyricist with decent concepts. I should say WAS a mediocre lyricist. He's not even that anymore.. He tried to go mainstream and failed hard.

DZK is okay at making SONGS, but he's terrible at disses. Joey would eat him alive. Bux, on the other hand, is a different story. I've never seen ANYONE who is as good at disses as bux is. Ever.


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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Master_Percussionist » May 8th, '11, 15:08

Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:If DZK got involved it would be all over...


No it wouldn't, lol. DZK is mediocre at best. There's dozens of people on Rapmusic.com who are better than him (check old GRB's, he's only won once or twice I think.. And he signed up every year) I'm not sure why you idolize him so much, honestly.. He's a mediocre lyricist with decent concepts. I should say WAS a mediocre lyricist. He's not even that anymore.. He tried to go mainstream and failed hard.

DZK is okay at making SONGS, but he's terrible at disses. Joey would eat him alive. Bux, on the other hand, is a different story. I've never seen ANYONE who is as good at disses as bux is. Ever.


Warbux may be leagues better at wordplay and punches in general but DZK just has this incredible knack for making fun of his opponent to the point that you actually take his side. Disses are not about punchlines (Ether and The Takeover had how many punchlines?). Rapmusic may house some incredible talent (Wird Of Pley had a great GT debut) but in this specific situation I'm pretty sure he would rape both Budden and Arsonal.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 8th, '11, 21:23

classthe_king wrote:
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classthe_king wrote:If DZK got involved it would be all over...


No it wouldn't, lol. DZK is mediocre at best. There's dozens of people on Rapmusic.com who are better than him (check old GRB's, he's only won once or twice I think.. And he signed up every year) I'm not sure why you idolize him so much, honestly.. He's a mediocre lyricist with decent concepts. I should say WAS a mediocre lyricist. He's not even that anymore.. He tried to go mainstream and failed hard.

DZK is okay at making SONGS, but he's terrible at disses. Joey would eat him alive. Bux, on the other hand, is a different story. I've never seen ANYONE who is as good at disses as bux is. Ever.


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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 9th, '11, 02:28

DZK doesn't even come close the word mediocre. He's a phenomenal lyricist.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 9th, '11, 04:14

classthe_king wrote:DZK doesn't even come close the word mediocre. He's a phenomenal lyricist.


Before 2007, sure. Also, if he's so great, why does he consistantly get beaten in GRB's?
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Master_Percussionist » May 9th, '11, 04:17

Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:DZK doesn't even come close the word mediocre. He's a phenomenal lyricist.


Before 2007, sure. Also, if he's so great, why does he consistantly get beaten in GRB's?

Because he makes good music AND battles. Wtf does Bux do besides write battle bars?
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 9th, '11, 22:11

Master_Percussionist wrote:
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classthe_king wrote:DZK doesn't even come close the word mediocre. He's a phenomenal lyricist.


Before 2007, sure. Also, if he's so great, why does he consistantly get beaten in GRB's?

Because he makes good music AND battles. Wtf does Bux do besides write battle bars?


This. And yeah, he was better back then but from 04-07 he was putting out more good music than anyone in such a time period.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 9th, '11, 22:17

Master_Percussionist wrote:Because he makes good music AND battles. Wtf does Bux do besides write battle bars?

Bux makes music, as well. And he ghost wrote a lot of DZK's battles, which DZK still couldn't use correctly and lost. GO FIGURE.

classthe_king wrote:This. And yeah, he was better back then but from 04-07 he was putting out more good music than anyone in such a time period.


Untrue. Spoon put out way better music during that time.

If DZK is so good, why has he never been signed to even an indie label? Why has he never made any money what-so-ever off music? Why has he only ever played a live show once?

Wanna know why? Because he's not good. His voice needs 10000000000 effects to be listenable. That's why he can't play live. (we've had this discussion before, class) He repeats his concepts A LOT and always has the same rhyme scheme / sound on every song. He's not good.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 9th, '11, 22:21

Block wrote:
Master_Percussionist wrote:Because he makes good music AND battles. Wtf does Bux do besides write battle bars?

Bux makes music, as well. And he ghost wrote a lot of DZK's battles, which DZK still couldn't use correctly and lost. GO FIGURE.

classthe_king wrote:This. And yeah, he was better back then but from 04-07 he was putting out more good music than anyone in such a time period.


Untrue. Spoon put out way better music during that time.

If DZK is so good, why has he never been signed to even an indie label? Why has he never made any money what-so-ever off music? Why has he only ever played a live show once?

Wanna know why? Because he's not good. His voice needs 10000000000 effects to be listenable. That's why he can't play live. (we've had this discussion before, class) He repeats his concepts A LOT and always has the same rhyme scheme / sound on every song. He's not good.


DZK put out close to 100 dope songs in that span, Spoonfull has put out 52 songs his entire career.

Because he's a lazy, drug addicted piece of shit, is Spoonfull even signed to a label?

I know we've been over this before but who the fuck cares how much effect he puts on his voice. His final product >>>>>>>>> *

And yes, he repeats concepts but that's why he's so good. He can put out 200 songs of the same style but every single song is different and unique showing how creative he is with his style.
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