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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 02:11

You're calling your opinion fact (and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier) meaning you lose. You know that opinions cannot be fact, Class.

Yes, I have high standards of success. If I were in his position I'd hate myself. But your standards are ridiculously low.


How the hell is that dissing him? He IS a mediocre lyricist. Well, was.. He isn't even that anymore.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 10th, '11, 02:37

My bad, I just saw what you said about sarcasm

Yes, I have high standards of success. If I were in his position I'd hate myself. But your standards are ridiculously low.


Good for you, that has nothing to do with his music.

How the hell is that dissing him? He IS a mediocre lyricist. Well, was.. He isn't even that anymore.


Because he's not a mediocre lyricist and you continually making that statement without any proof does not make it otherwise.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby the_nemesis » May 10th, '11, 02:44

Block wrote:You're calling your opinion fact (and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier) meaning you lose. You know that opinions cannot be fact, Class.

Yes, I have high standards of success. If I were in his position I'd hate myself. But your standards are ridiculously low.


How the hell is that dissing him? He IS a mediocre lyricist. Well, was.. He isn't even that anymore.

lol is block retarded?

DZK is one of the top 10 lyricists ever. So what if he never makes money? maybe he isn't in it for that moron. yes he's fallen off, but prime DZK > *

And he has a bad voice? are you kidding?

Sure he probably layers it on his raps, but guess who else did that? You all's precious Eminem.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 02:45

classthe_king wrote:
Block wrote:You're calling your opinion fact (and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier) meaning you lose. You know that opinions cannot be fact, Class.


With that logic you already lost

>reading comprehension is not my strong point, Block.

It's okay, I understand. Allow me to help you out, buddy. :console: Here, read this quote that you coincidently quoted, in the quote that I just quoted.

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)

I'm not sure you understood it. Read it again.

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)


Okay. Back on topic.


classthe_king wrote:Good for you, that has nothing to do with his music.

Again, the argument was about you over-hyping him. Stop trying to change the subject. Do I need to remind you that by over-hyping him, you're over-hyping HIM, not just his music? Although, you do over-hype his music, as well.

Because he's not a mediocre lyricist and you continually making that statement without any proof does not make it otherwise.


Wouldn't the same logic apply to you? You continuing to say that he's an amazing lyricist without proving it does nothing to help your argument. I gave you some leeway and said he was DECENT (mediocre) before 2007. That wasn't enough for you (typical stan antics) because I did not say he was amazing. Sorry, if I can write on par or better than him, he's not amazing to me.

You do realize that your antics are reminiscent of those Eminem stans that you spew so much hatred for, right? :facepalm
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 02:46

fucking 'matter' was supposed to be 'manner'.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 10th, '11, 02:50

Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Block wrote:You're calling your opinion fact (and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier) meaning you lose. You know that opinions cannot be fact, Class.


With that logic you already lost

>reading comprehension is not my strong point, Block.

It's okay, I understand. Allow me to help you out, buddy. :console: Here, read this quote that you coincidently quoted, in the quote that I just quoted.

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)

I'm not sure you understood it. Read it again.

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)

(and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier)


Okay. Back on topic.


*Directs to post*
I caught myself before you made this post. This whole section=fail.

Again, the argument was about you over-hyping him. Stop trying to change the subject. Do I need to remind you that by over-hyping him, you're over-hyping HIM, not just his music? Although, you do over-hype his music, as well.


No, the argument was about his lyrics. Show me one post where I've praised anything that you so commonly bring up.

Wouldn't the same logic apply to you? You continuing to say that he's an amazing lyricist without proving it does nothing to help your argument. I gave you some leeway and said he was DECENT (mediocre) before 2007. That wasn't enough for you (typical stan antics) because I did not say he was amazing. Sorry, if I can write on par or better than him, he's not amazing to me.

You do realize that your antics are reminiscent of those Eminem stans that you spew so much hatred for, right? :facepalm


You made the statement first that he was a mediocre lyricist, the burden of proof is on you.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 03:28

You edited it while I was posting, asshole.

Delivery isn't lyricism. You praised that. Rhyme schemes (arguably) aren't lyricism. You praised that. You said he makes "amazing music" or whatever you said. I argued against it to show that no, he doesn't. I brought up the other points (as mentioned in an earlier post of mine) to show that you over-hype him and (as I said earlier) being able to write DECENTLY hasn't gotten him anywhere. They were supporting arguments to my main argument. That's what people who know how to argue do.

"You made the statement. Burden of proof. Blah blah blah"

Wrong. Your first comment about DZK was, "If DZK got involved it would be all over."

>Implying DZK is amazing and would wipe up Budden, etc.

You made the claim first. Therefore burden of proof lyes with you.

I will still claim that DZK was mediocre and is now sub-par.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 10th, '11, 03:36

hahahahahahahhahah :flower:

I praised his delivery, flow, rhymes and lyricism, which is all apart of his music. None of that has to do with his live shows or his success, which is ways you brought up to show why I was overhyping him.

DZK would wipe up Budden, deffinitely now that he has all this new ammo :laughing:

And I will still claim that DZK is one of the GOATs
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 03:47

th closest DZK has come to goat is the mountain kind.

You didn't prove anything. You have the burden of proof on your shoulders, asshole.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 10th, '11, 03:50

I don't feel like arguing anymore, I'm about to go to bed. I told you I was goona have a debate with you though :smoking:

I'll just leave by saying


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 03:57

[quote="classthe_king"]I don't feel like arguing anymore,quote]

Concession? Concession. I accept.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby classthe_king » May 10th, '11, 03:58

Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I don't feel like arguing anymore,quote]

Concession? Concession. I accept.


Quote fail = I win
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 04:00

classthe_king wrote:
Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:I don't feel like arguing anymore,quote]

Concession? Concession. I accept.


Quote fail = I win


I knew you'd say something that's why I left it.
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby ThomasAguanis » May 10th, '11, 04:04

:laughing: @ the thought that DZK would "wipe up" Joe in a beef. You're not serious are you? Oh, you are...
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Re: Joe Budden Vs. Arsonal

Postby Block » May 10th, '11, 05:40

the_nemesis wrote:
Block wrote:You're calling your opinion fact (and not in a sarcastic matter as I had earlier) meaning you lose. You know that opinions cannot be fact, Class.

Yes, I have high standards of success. If I were in his position I'd hate myself. But your standards are ridiculously low.


How the hell is that dissing him? He IS a mediocre lyricist. Well, was.. He isn't even that anymore.

lol is block retarded?

DZK is one of the top 10 lyricists ever. So what if he never makes money? maybe he isn't in it for that moron. yes he's fallen off, but prime DZK > *

And he has a bad voice? are you kidding?

Sure he probably layers it on his raps, but guess who else did that? You all's precious Eminem.


Why don't you get on your regular account? I don't feel like arguing with an alt made to troll.

DZK is shit. Period.

I love the excuse "LOL HES NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY!!!" That shit's tired and played. Come original. And you can't tell that his voice has effects on it in that video? :facepalm

Log on to your regular account, faggot.
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