Nas - Oochie Wally

[OMEGA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoEnHC8ddVw



Can we all agree that this may be the worst song a great artist has ever created? I mean, what the hell was Nas thinking

This thing is almost career-suicide bad. Absolutely horrible, from the vomit inducing beat, to the ear piercing hook, to the hilariously awful soft-porn video with a black tooth'd Nas.

[dead prez]

That's nowhere near the worst when songs like Fack and Big Weenie exist.

[stillmatic]

I think there has been worse songs by great artists.

Eminem has 'Fack', Kool G Rap has the song with Hilary Duff's sister, LL Cool J made the song Shark Fin, Mobb Deep has Amerikaz Nightmare and so forth.

[VenomBlackViper]

Not the worst song made by a great artist but this song is horrible. Should be able to tell from the name alone.

[flyingmonkey10]

Not the worst song made by a great artist but this song is horrible. Should be able to tell from the name alone.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

not even close,alot better than fack

[EminemBase]

That's nowhere near the worst when songs like Fack and Big Weenie exist.

Those aren't in the same category as Eminem is intentionally being retarded. You can say they're awful songs but... Nas' song for example - he's attempted to make a song come across as good and... quality and it comes across as corny and bad. It's a failure.

Where as, do you think Em's intent for "Fack" was for it to come across as profound? he knows he sounds ridiculous. So yes, it's a silly song and if you dislike it - it's bad. But it's not an accident in the same way that "Oochie Wally" is. The intent is different. And that makes it different.

It's like when you hear an intentionally bad impression on South Park. It'd be kind of weird to say "that's a really bad impression". It IS, but... it's not like it's Trey Parker's best attempt lmao, the humour is the fact that it's bad, and you know that Trey Parker knows that too. It's ironic.

[dead prez]

I find Big Weenie be infinitely more corny than Oochie Wally, both are terrible, but the video gives it a worse impression than it really is. Not to mention I find Nas' performance listenable but the other rappers make the song a lot worse not to mention the cringeworthy chorus, Big Weenie all around was just embarassing though.

And I'm not following are you impyling he wanted to make an overexaggerated corny song, cause I really don't find excuse for the terribleness of Big Weenie. I guess you could say he's being humorous but he doesn't pull it off with tact like he did in earlier albums as well, both fail though.

[ThomasJ]

^So just because Em was supposedly fucking around and Nas wasn't, that gives Em a free "get out of jail" card?
That's bullshit. A terrible song is terrible, whether it's you being serious or you fucking around.

[FreeSpeech]

No it's just not good. It's not even a Nas song, it's with the Bravehearts for their album. He has one verse, which isn't even horrible, just generic and mediocre. If Jay had never insulted it, most of you wouldn't think twice and just write it off as a non impressive song. It's also probably the stupid name that gets it so much hate. It's obviously not a good song, but worst ever? No...

[EminemBase]

I find Big Weenie be infinitely more corny than Oochie Wally, both are terrible, but the video gives it a worse impression than it really is. Not to mention I find Nas' performance listenable but the other rappers make the song a lot worse not to mention the cringeworthy chorus, Big Weenie all around was just embarassing though.

And I'm not following are you impyling he wanted to make an overexaggerated corny song, cause I really don't find excuse for the terribleness of Big Weenie. I guess you could say he's being humorous but he doesn't pull it off with tact like he did in earlier albums as well, both fail though.

Yeah but they're different categories.

And yes I'm not implying that though, that's what I'm saying plain out. So you think he tried to make a SERIOUS song with "Big Weenie"? it's intentionally silly and absurd. I mean honestly, a man in his 30s calling his critics 'meanie's'... you think that's his best response... ?

Like I said, to me it's like when Trey Parker does purposely bad impressions on South Park.

Now... that's a lot different to somebody genuinely trying to do a good impression and failing. So, if somebody tried to do a real impression and it was awful, would you say it's the same as Trey Parker's 'awful' impression?... even though Trey Parker intentionally made his awful, knew it was awful and that's supposed to be the humour in it...

You could say they're both objectively awful. But it's a lot different. The difference is that one is aware of itself, the other isn't.

And that's how I see things like "Fack" and "Big Weenie". Sure - objectively, if you don't find what he's doing funny, they're awful. But it's not like those are his best attempt at wit or song making, he knew he was making totally absurd, over the top ridiculous songs. It wasn't accidental.

An accidental hiccup such as this song, or any song which thinks it's good or coming off as X and failing, is much different than an intentionally absurd song.

[classthe_king]

^^^Shut the fuck up. This is why people say you're a stan. He made possibly the worst rap song ever, whether it was intentional or not, it doesn't matter.

[dead prez]

That still doesn't excuse the abyssmal quality of the song regardless of whether or not he was supposedly trying to intentionally make a crap song.

I'm not even complaining about the whole concept of the song, which I think is retarded either way, he executes it horribly as well. And still doesn't capture the humor he was capable off in earlier albums, it was just a mess and came off as immature and tasteless.

Wheras Freespeech, this song was hardly Nas' and the real lowpoints where the other verses and the hook, Nas' actual verse was just subpar but still listenable.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but let's get this straight, you're saying we should excuse this song's shitty quality because Eminem purposely tried to make a shit song? Really?

[FreeSpeech]

^^^Shut the fuck up. This is why people say you're a stan. He made possibly the worst rap song ever, whether it was intentional or not, it doesn't matter.

^^^Shut the fuck up. This is why people say you're a prick. You make possible the stupidest comments ever, it was clearly a comedic, funny song to show he can do whatever he wants and saying fuck the critics.

[EminemBase]

^^^Shut the fuck up. This is why people say you're a stan. He made possibly the worst rap song ever, whether it was intentional or not, it doesn't matter.

Of course it matters you retard.

It makes no sense to call an intentionally silly song silly as if it's an accident.

That is literally like watching fucking South Park and seeing say, the Gordon Ramsay impression and saying "that's the worst impression ever" as if Trey Parker failed at doing the impression. He fucking intended it to be awful.

I'm not a Stan because I don't agree with your retarded logic. Like I said, I'm not saying the song is not awful. If you find it awful then you find it awful, but yes the intention changes everything.