Nas - Oochie Wally

[EminemBase]

And you're failing to understand that I do understand what you are saying and are telling you that you are wrong.

No, I'm succeeding in recognizing your failure to understand. If you understood, you'd know that I am right. But you're too stupid to understand, so think I am wrong.

But unfortunately, you're wrong. Sorry to be the one to tell you. Take it easy.

[classthe_king]

Nope, nice try but it looks like the "Forum Genius" was just outsmarted. Have a good day.

[Satire]

This was entertaining but I'm left wanting more.

[EminemBase]

Nope, nice try but it looks like the "Forum Genius" was just outsmarted. Have a good day.

I'm afraid not.

Looks like the "Forum Brat" took another beat down.

Oh, and you too.

[classthe_king]

Nope, nice try but it looks like the "Forum Genius" was just outsmarted. Have a good day.

I'm afraid not.

Looks like the "Forum Brat" took another beat down.

Oh, and you too.

Really? Let's look at the facts of this thread.

1. Everyone's goal is to create good music
2. Nas wanted to create a serious, good song
3. Eminem wanted to create a song that was stupid as fuck, but still a good song.
4. Nas failed, only creating an average, 4/10 song
5. Eminem succeeded in creating a song that was stupid as fuck (which is actually a failure in itself), but failed in creating a good song as his song was a 1/10
6. Nas' song is better than Eminem's song
7. Eminem fails more than Nas

Look what happens when you use logic?

[EminemBase]

Really? Let's look at the facts of this thread.

1. Everyone's goal is to create good music
2. Nas wanted to create a serious, good song
3. Eminem wanted to create a song that was stupid as fuck, but still a good song.
4. Nas failed, only creating an average, 4/10 song
5. Eminem succeeded in creating a song that was stupid as fuck (which is actually a failure in itself), but failed in creating a good song as his song was a 1/10
6. Nas' song is better than Eminem's song
7. Eminem fails more than Nas

Look what happens when you use logic?

Tut tut. You call THAT logic?

Firstly, you cannot 'logically' state a song is 4/10, or 1/10 or whatever spurious rating you choose to personally give it and act as if that's an objective fact.

The only objective FACTS you displayed there were that two artists made two songs and that you think one is better than the other. It's not an objective fact that Nas' song is 4/10 because 'out of ten' doesn't even fucking exist, it's in your imagination. It's not a measurable statistic, it's art, and preference.

You can not measure how much each artist 'failed' because one man's meat is another man's poison. Nothing there is truly measurable and therefore, it's not logic. Because it's not truly objective. All you can do is use elements of logic to back-up your opinion as best you can.

It's not an objective truth that Nas made a 'better' song. Music is not sports, or science. You can't state which song is better or demonstrate it with facts. So you cannot therefore objectively prove me wrong on the grounds of logic that he did that.

So, not only did you lose the argument, continuously but you've just displayed the most retarded attempt at closure 'logic' I have ever seen. Once again, you fail. Know your place little child.

[classthe_king]

Well obviously those numbers aren't fact, I just made up arbitrary numbers on the spot, however if you try and say that Big Weenie is a better song then you're just making a fool out of yourself, you can put in any numbers there, everything I said holds true.

[EminemBase]

^ Don't try and weasel out of your embarrassing 'logic' now.

You said let's look at the facts.

Forget whether I think "Big Weenie" is a better song or not, that's totally irrelevant. It's not a fact that Nas' song is better. Better is not a measurable thing.

So you cannot state that, like it's objective. Your entire post was ridiculous. "Everything I said holds true" - now you are the one that is deluded. Your opinion, no matter how much you'd like to think so, is not fact. It's not unquestionable fact.

So even if it's generally accepted that X is a worse song than Y - that doesn't make it so. Because somebody with a certain taste may find X to be much better. You cannot state taste as fact and say it holds true and that you're ridiculous for questioning it. You idiot.

You stated that heap of horse shit with so much arrogance and confidence that you now look pathetic. You fail, big time. Yet again.

[classthe_king]

Nas on Oochie Wally is better than Big Weenie. That is fact and trying to deny it makes you fail.

[EminemBase]

^ You're a moron.

[classthe_king]

Wrong. I am not a moron. That is also fact

[EminemBase]

Wrong. I am not a moron. That is also fact

I'm sorry sir, claim denied... system says you are in fact a moron and that was established on your birth date. Our system is 100% accurate.

So, you must in fact be a moron. And, you must in fact be wrong. Again.

If you just go straight down the hall you'll see the Embarrassment Section, first left. I'd advise you sit in there for a little while, cry it out. Think of how much of a cock you are etc.

[classthe_king]

^^^^Eminembase said that what Nas did was worse than what Eminem did, so of course which song was better has to come into the conversation.

I win. As always.

[VenomBlackViper]

I like this argument, it's something simple even the children can understand yet it's still entertaining for the adults. Kind of like watching re runs of Courage The Cowardly Dog or Cow And Chicken.

[EminemBase]

^^^^Eminembase said that what Nas did was worse than what Eminem did, so of course which song was better has to come into the conversation.

I win. As always.

I said that it's a different category, due to the intent and that it's worse to intend to do something, and fail on intent (and execution, two fronts) than it is just to fail on execution alone (one front). As it's failing on multiple fronts.

I didn't say what Nas did was worse than what Eminem did (as in lyrically or rap wise), because that would be focusing on their specific performances. Which is irrelevant to my point. So it's a distraction. I couldn't care less which you think is better on that front, that's such a lame / boring thing to debate.

Again, you're focusing on the specific songs and failing to see the bigger picture. Doesn't matter what I think of either song, you just can't understand the logic. Because you're dumb.

So you lose. As always.