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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby EminemInsider » May 17th, '11, 18:36

Block wrote:Aren't you evan c? You refer to yourself in the third person?

Did you honestly just say that? "atleast his multies line up"? Lmaoooo.. Nevermind the fact he's (you?) 26 and sounds like he's a 14 year old math wiz with asthma... Nevermind the fact his (your?) 'Rapping' is beyond laughable... Nevermind the fact his voice did crack multiple times. If not, it got higher than any grown mans voice should ever get.

BUT HE HAS PERFECT MULTIES!! You stupid, ignorant fuck. Atleast argue a valid point; not something I've already schooled you on and made you agree with me about.


1. Evan C and I are not the same person, no matter how much Satire/Relapse.LP wishes for that to be the case. Like I need two anonymous accounts on an internet forum? Oh wait, but your internet "clique" members do it...so that means everyone must.

2. You're so transparent it's hilarious. Here's how it went down:

"OMGZ, is dis EminemInsider rapping? Wow, he sounds nerdy on the mic. He doesn't use that generic w1gger voice that is required in order for a white rapper to be taken seriously. Perfect, now I can really insult him and stuff. Let's see, now who do I compare him to? Need a nerdy white guy who raps...AHA! I got it! Weird Al? He's white and nerdy...even made a song called White and Nerdy! Perfect! I'll say he sounds like Weird-Al's twin! And let's throw in some stuff about getting picked on in school, since class, Satire, and I aren't out of our teen years yet."

Never mind Weird Al being a legend for his parody tracks. He attained that status by being really good at it. I should think Evan would take that as a compliment. Try again.

And the "nasally voice" part is also hilarious considering the rapper whose fan site you're posting on. I mean, really?

In reality, my voice is probably worse than Evan's, but I don't record anything. I tried a few times, realized it wasn't going to work out, and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Neither Evan nor I are "aspiring rappers," though. You, on the other hand...and you didn't even know the importance of aligning syllables in multi-syllabic rhymes. That's pretty much the most basic, fundamental element when it comes to multis, and you didn't even know it until Amadeo and I told you. I'm sure you're gonna get tons of attention in the ridiculously oversatured underground rap world. The key ingredient? Misaligned multis!

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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Block » May 17th, '11, 21:06

EminemInsider wrote:1. Evan C and I are not the same person, no matter how much Satire/Relapse.LP wishes for that to be the case.

So Eminembase was arguing with YOU and 'Evan C' made a diss toward him? Yeah, almost believable. :y:

Like I need two anonymous accounts on an internet forum?

Yes. With how seriously you take this forum, I wouldn't put it past you.

Oh wait, but your internet "clique" members do it...so that means everyone must.

Really? Because last time I checked, Satire, maybe and x ray don't have anonymous accounts. Try again, Al?

2. You're so transparent it's hilarious. Here's how it went down:

This would be true if your attempted breakdown were anywhere close to truthful. The sad truth is that your assumptions are far fetched and lack substance.

He doesn't use that generic w1gger voice that is required in order for a white rapper to be taken seriously.

W.igger voice? See, this is where you make up facts. I don't listen to Eminem. Aren't you the one obsessed with him? Exactly. My favorite artists are FAR from w.iggers, but they don't sound like nerdy 14 year old asthma cases. And the fact you're TWENTY SIX and sound that way is just... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

(The fact you're twenty six and still posting on this forum like it's your life says a lot, as well)

Perfect, now I can really insult him and stuff.

I could--and did--insult you beforehand just on the merits of how fucking retarded and outlandish your attempted rebuttals are. This little gem only adds fuel to the already blazing inferno known as "Emineminsider is fucking pathetic"

Let's see, now who do I compare him to? Need a nerdy white guy who raps...AHA! I got it! Weird Al? He's white and nerdy...even made a song called White and Nerdy! Perfect! I'll say he sounds like Weird-Al's twin!

Actually the comparison is uncanny. Anyone who will listen to Weird Al and then listen to you will laugh their asses off at the resemblance. Can't really mock truth, cupcake.

And let's throw in some stuff about getting picked on in school, since class, Satire, and I aren't out of our teen years yet."

I'm twenty three. I graduated college last year.. Nice try? The assumption about being picked on at school stems from the fact you sound--as previously mentioned--like an asthma riddled math wiz. Can I help it if your lack of testosterone lead me to believe you were still getting shoved into lockers? I bet high school was the worst for you, wasn't it? Sounding all high-pitched and squeeky. That's why you try to assert authority on the internetz wid u super dooper smartz!


Never mind Weird Al being a legend for his parody tracks. He attained that status by being really good at it.

Comparing voices has nothing to do with comparing talent. Anyone who would take having Weird Al's voice as a compliment needs to re-evaluate their life situation. You should get started on that.

I should think Evan would take that as a compliment. Try again.

Well, considering you tried to sound all gangster all that end.. I doubt you ACTUALLY take it as a compliment. You just don't want to show your feelings being hurt. :laughing:

And the "nasally voice" part is also hilarious considering the rapper whose fan site you're posting on. I mean, really?

Yes. Really. I can't stand Eminem's voice, but atleast he can use it. He doesn't sound like his fucking windpipe was shoved up his ass after being coated in Elmer's glue.

In reality, my voice is probably worse than Evan's, but I don't record anything. I tried a few times, realized it wasn't going to work out, and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Neither Evan nor I are "aspiring rappers,"

Good. The world of hip hop doesn't need another wannabe Marshal Mathers polluting it's air ways.

though. You, on the other hand...and you didn't even know the importance of aligning syllables in multi-syllabic rhymes.

Really? Because I can recall making you and Amadeo both agree with me that misaligned multis are still multies. And the fact you believe a multie MUST contain the same syllable count only shows how little you actually know about rhyme structure. Good thing you aren't aspiring to be a rapper, huh?

Even your beloved Eminem uses multies that don't line up. Why? Because he knows about phonetics and rhyme structure and structuring to the beat. not structuring on paper to look pretty. Read up on phonetics, before asserting your pseudo-knowledge about a subject that you obviously can't differentiate from your needle dick.

That's pretty much the most basic, fundamental element when it comes to multis, and you didn't even know it until Amadeo and I told you.

Terrible attempt.. Very terrible.

I'm sure you're gonna get tons of attention in the ridiculously oversatured underground rap world. The key ingredient? Misaligned multis!

Another terrible attempt. Really? :laughing:


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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby dead prez » May 17th, '11, 21:19

Everytime I see someone call strawman fallacy, I always think strawman phalluses, or orgies containing gay scarecrows of the like.
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Block » May 17th, '11, 21:25

diction wrote:Everytime I see someone call strawman fallacy, I always think strawman phalluses, or orgies containing gay scarecrows of the like.


Add Insider to the mix, they'll still all look the same. :laughing: nerdy little fuck.
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby classthe_king » May 17th, '11, 21:26

I always thought that multis had to align too, and I still probably will always make them align, but I've noticed that Slug has multis that don't align alot. Same with DZK.
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Satire » May 17th, '11, 21:28

What pisses me off is when Slug has multis that DO align, but he flows them like they're not multis. It's like he's trying to make me mad or something.
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby classthe_king » May 17th, '11, 21:31

Satire wrote:What pisses me off is when Slug has multis that DO align, but he flows them like they're not multis. It's like he's trying to make me mad or something.


And sometimes he could have easily made them align but doesn't make it on purpose.

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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Satire » May 17th, '11, 21:33

Honestly I think he does it for the flow. "Buys her the food" sounds much better with the infliction put on it than "he buys her juice".
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby classthe_king » May 17th, '11, 21:35

Well yeah
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby EminemInsider » May 17th, '11, 22:09

Block wrote:So Eminembase was arguing with YOU and 'Evan C' made a diss toward him? Yeah, almost believable. :y:


Yeah, because I'm the only one who ever argued with EminemBase and thought he was hilarious. Evan C never argued with him or anything.

Yes. With how seriously you take this forum, I wouldn't put it past you.


No, sorry, not everyone is like you and Satire with the multiple accounts.

Really? Because last time I checked, Satire, maybe and x ray don't have anonymous accounts. Try again, Al?


*Goes to phone book to look up "Satire." *


The sad truth is that your assumptions are far fetched and lack substance.


This sentence doesn't even make sense. It has no discernible meaning...it's just you trying once again to sound intelligent and failing miserably.


W.igger voice? See, this is where you make up facts. I don't listen to Eminem. Aren't you the one obsessed with him? Exactly. My favorite artists are FAR from w.iggers, but they don't sound like nerdy 14 year old asthma cases. And the fact you're TWENTY SIX and sound that way is just... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


You don't listen to Eminem, yet you're on TRShady.com? You don't listen to Eminem, yet you raved about the "emotion" in songs he has done?

:laughing:

And half the rappers on that list of "favorites" you did a few days ago are wiggers.

(The fact you're twenty six and still posting on this forum like it's your life says a lot, as well)


You say later you're 23. And you have 1400+ posts here. :laughing:


I could--and did--insult you beforehand just on the merits of how fucking retarded and outlandish your attempted rebuttals are. This little gem only adds fuel to the already blazing inferno known as "Emineminsider is fucking pathetic"


Only further proves the point that you're looking for anything you can come up with. Didn't you claim you "never get angry?" Why is it that you keep bringing my name up everywhere and attempting to insult me? Your actions aren't commensurate with your stated outlook.

Actually the comparison is uncanny. Anyone who will listen to Weird Al and then listen to you will laugh their asses off at the resemblance. Can't really mock truth, cupcake.


Yeah, right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

That sounds soooooo much like Evan C.

That's like comparing some random, short black guy to Gary Coleman. It's the most cliche comparison possible...and you only made it because it's the only one you could come up with. You're desperate. If you were more cultured you'd be able to make a far better comparison.


I'm twenty three. I graduated college last year.. Nice try? The assumption about being picked on at school stems from the fact you sound--as previously mentioned--like an asthma riddled math wiz. Can I help it if your lack of testosterone lead me to believe you were still getting shoved into lockers? I bet high school was the worst for you, wasn't it? Sounding all high-pitched and squeeky. That's why you try to assert authority on the internetz wid u super dooper smartz!


As if this isn't the most hilariously hypocritical and projecting statement ever written. Wow.

23-years-old and dumb as a rock...and self-conscious, too.

Comparing voices has nothing to do with comparing talent. Anyone who would take having Weird Al's voice as a compliment needs to re-evaluate their life situation. You should get started on that.


If you're comparing the voices you're even further off. The only thing Evan and Weird Al have in common is they both do song parodies.

The funny thing is, Weird Al has sold more records than you could ever even dream of selling. Maybe you should switch genres.

Well, considering you tried to sound all gangster all that end.. I doubt you ACTUALLY take it as a compliment. You just don't want to show your feelings being hurt. :laughing:


I'm sure Evan was completely serious with that ending. Couldn't have been made in jest or anything.

Yes. Really. I can't stand Eminem's voice, but atleast he can use it. He doesn't sound like his fucking windpipe was shoved up his ass after being coated in Elmer's glue.


I thought you "loved his emotion?" So you love his emotion...but hate his voice...but love some of his lyrics...but hate Deja Vu's lyrics.

"He can use his voice," but you don't listen to Eminem.

I don't know, maybe it's just me...but I'd say you're stepping in your own piss.


Good. The world of hip hop doesn't need another wannabe Marshal Mathers polluting it's air ways.


No, what it REALLY needs is a generic net-head who is bringing absolutely nothing new to the table being added to its pool of millions of underground rappers. One who only recently learned about the importance of aligning multis and whose rhyming plummets as soon as he has to write ABOUT anything, as opposed to "abstract" lyrics.

Really? Because I can recall making you and Amadeo both agree with me that misaligned multis are still multies. And the fact you believe a multie MUST contain the same syllable count only shows how little you actually know about rhyme structure. Good thing you aren't aspiring to be a rapper, huh?


They're "still multis" in the same way Pauly Shore is an actor. They're lacking in the most important and fundamental aspect.


Even your beloved Eminem uses multies that don't line up. Why? Because he knows about phonetics and rhyme structure and structuring to the beat. not structuring on paper to look pretty. Read up on phonetics, before asserting your pseudo-knowledge about a subject that you obviously can't differentiate from your needle dick.


You could count on one hand the number of times Eminem did this in his "prime," and it wasn't because he wanted to. Notice how much more common that became once he became a pill popping zombie.

But in your world, I guess Eminem "elevated" during that time period. He was no longer bound to that stupid multi aligning thing he'd been doing since his Soul Intent days. Now he was FREE...free to rhyme 6 syllable strings with 3 syllable strings if he so chose!

Terrible attempt.. Very terrible.


It's "very terrible" because it's very true.

Another terrible attempt. Really? :laughing:


I don't know how else you're going to do it. Just looking at it objectively...don't quit your day job...if you have one.
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Block » May 17th, '11, 23:04

You didn't refute anything at all. Was that really your best attempt? Make garbage insults and try to pass them off as factual statements while deliberately misconstruing and exaggerating posts? The fuck is wrong with you? lol.

I really can't be fucked to go back and forth after already dismantling your first attempted rebuttal, but I guess--not that you need my help--I'll make you look retarded once more.

Yeah, because I'm the only one who ever argued with EminemBase and thought he was hilarious. Evan C never argued with him or anything.

Then why was it you that posted it? Why are you defending him so diligently? The pieces don't add up in your favor, Al.

No, sorry, not everyone is like you and Satire with the multiple accounts.

Mind posting any form of proof with this absurd accusation? Maybe cite some sources? From what I've seen, mods do a pretty decent job at catching people with proxies. If I were to make an anonymous account, it would be caught pretty quickly. But you knew that, didn't you? You're just attempting to keep your head above water in this little debacle. When did stating facts turn in to slinging mud? Oh, when Emineminsider gets his feelings hurts. Duh.

Block wrote:The sad truth is that your assumptions are far fetched and lack substance.

You really cannot comprehend the meaning behind this statement? Or you choose not to because it's true? Allow me to break it down for you: The assumptions you made about me are very improbable (far-fetched) and they lack any form of 'meat' (substance) in the dicussion.

Was tat easier fo wittle insider to wead?

You don't listen to Eminem, yet you're on TRShady.com? You don't listen to Eminem, yet you raved about the "emotion" in songs he has done?

Uh, yup. I didn't come to this website for Eminem. I originally came here as part of a site dispute back in 2006. Nice try, though. Also, having read my posts as much as you have (don't deny it) you know full-well that I used to listen to Eminem up until around TES. I know you've read those posts because you've quoted and cited them multiple times. Nice try.

And half the rappers on that list of "favorites" you did a few days ago are *****.

This is the equivelant of saying, "Well your dad can't beat up my dad!!" In a discussion about which paint looks better on the walls. More mud-slinging. Is it helping? Do you feel better, champ? Got it out your system?
EDIT: Glad you read my posts, though. Nice to see that you're keeping tabs on your favorite poster. Who's stalking who? You may not post my name much, but I know you watch my every move. Keep watching, sunshine, you may learn a thing or two.

You say later you're 23. And you have 1400+ posts here.

In 5 years. But since when is that relevant? I wasn't referring to the amount of posts you have, I was referring to A.) making an anonymous account to argue with people [pathetic in it's own right]. and B.) your attitude of this site being your life. The be-all-end-all. Deny that all you want, but you take shit serious here. Whereas a lot of people don't; we laugh at you. You routinely have these back and forth breakdown discussions, putting all your malnourished little muscle into each word.

Only further proves the point that you're looking for anything you can come up with. Didn't you claim you "never get angry?" Why is it that you keep bringing my name up everywhere and attempting to insult me? Your actions aren't commensurate with your stated outlook.

Keep bringing your name up? You couldn't be so lucky. I forgot you existed until someone posted this little gem.

That's like comparing some random, short black guy to Gary Coleman.

No. No, it's nothing like that at all. Truth is truth.

It's the most cliche comparison possible...

Cliche's are often times built around truths. This, for example.

and you only made it because it's the only one you could come up with.

Nope. Actually I made it because their voice inflections show uncanny similarities.

You're desperate.

Really? I'm sure you'd like to think so, but the fact of the matter is Weird Al was the first voice I thought of. It fits perfectly.

If you were more cultured you'd be able to make a far better comparison.

>shit I haven't used enough insults in this post. Let me pull one out of my ass

When, in reality, there is no better comparison.

As if this isn't the most hilariously hypocritical and projecting statement ever written. Wow.

23-years-old and dumb as a rock...and self-conscious, too.


Hey, you forgot the rest of the quote.. Let me help you. Maybe you can try to refute it this time.

Block wrote:I'm twenty three. I graduated college last year.. Nice try? The assumption about being picked on at school stems from the fact you sound--as previously mentioned--like an asthma riddled math wiz. Can I help it if your lack of testosterone lead me to believe you were still getting shoved into lockers? I bet high school was the worst for you, wasn't it? Sounding all high-pitched and squeeky.

You're welcome. Just trying to help out, pal.

The funny thing is, Weird Al has sold more records than you could ever even dream of selling. Maybe you should switch genres.

This would be conclusive if I were somehow insulting Weird Al. Again, you pull the straw man card.. You seem to do that rather often. Indicative of the fact you're a fucking horrible debater and rely solely on the fact stans in the Eminem section will ride you to a faux-victory. This isn't the Eminem section, sweety.

I'm sure Evan was completely serious with that ending. Couldn't have been made in jest or anything.

Who's to say he wasn't? Unless, of course, you are him and you know... I mean, his attempted rap sounded like he tried to be serious.

I thought you "loved his emotion?" So you love his emotion...but hate his voice...but love some of his lyrics...but hate Deja Vu's lyrics.

"He can use his voice," but you don't listen to Eminem.

I don't know, maybe it's just me...but I'd say you're stepping in your own piss.

When does emotion = voice inflection? Eminem's voice used to be tolerable, now it's just shit. Again, you've read my posts about this.. You're attempting to keep your head above water, once again. Another terrible attempt at trying to stay in the argument.

No, what it REALLY needs is a generic net-head who is bringing absolutely nothing new to the table being added to its pool of millions of underground rappers.

This is exactly what it needs. But, nothing new? Arguable.

One who only recently learned about the importance of aligning multis

I love how you reinforce this every post, as if it's somehow a truthful statement, when my writing speaks for itself.

and whose rhyming plummets as soon as he has to write ABOUT anything, as opposed to "abstract" lyrics.

Really? I've written plenty of story songs which have been praised. More mud-slinging, perhaps? Yeah, that's pretty much all you're good at.

They're "still multis" in the same way Pauly Shore is an actor. They're lacking in the most important and fundamental aspect.

No. They're still multies in the way they flow much more smooth over the instrumental. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? Of course not.

You could count on one hand the number of times Eminem did this in his "prime," and it wasn't because he wanted to. Notice how much more common that became once he became a pill popping zombie.

>oh shit I better make an excuse

But in your world, I guess Eminem "elevated" during that time period.

There's no denying the fact eminem elevated during TES period. He used them before that, as well. More excuses, please?

He was no longer bound to that stupid multi aligning thing he'd been doing since his Soul Intent days. Now he was FREE...free to rhyme 6 syllable strings with 3 syllable strings if he so chose!

This is useless interjection.

I don't know how else you're going to do it.

Of course you don't. There was a study conducted at a university that concluded we, as people, have a hard time believing that someone else can achieve goals that we cannot see ourselves achieving. Sound familiar?

Just looking at it objectively...don't quit your day job...if you have one.

My title isn't important, but I assure you I make more than you. And yes, I will quit when I make it. See, that's the difference between us: I know I'll make it. You'll be sitting here arguing until you're 30+ (which, ironically, is only 4 years)

P.S. Where's some examples of your writing? I mean, you're so quick to try and critique mine--where's yours? I've asked you this before and you produced absolutely nothing. So, what is it that makes you an authority on the subject of rhyming and verse structure? Surely it can't be the fact you're a major stan and believe that just by listening and studying Eminem's music, that somehow makes you good, yourself? I mean, that CAN'T be it, can it?
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Willy » May 17th, '11, 23:37

Eminembase has had some great debates on religion and ADHD.

Amadeo and InsideEminem have had some good ones.

^These three members, maybe a few others, are the most entertaining to read imo.

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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Block » May 18th, '11, 00:55

Oh shit, Insider is in backstage again. About to respond with another one of his generic breakdowns that consist of refuting nothing, attempted insults (which aren't really insulting due to their lack of truthfulness), sarcasm and forced-condescension--which he uses to over-compensate for his lack of manhood outside of this virtual reality. Emphasis on FORCED. Because, let's face it, anyone who sounds like him has never really had the balls to act condescending toward anyone in life.

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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Satire » May 18th, '11, 00:56

The irony in this thread is amazing.
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Re: What's the single best back and fourth argument that hav

Postby Block » May 18th, '11, 00:58

Satire wrote:The irony in this thread is amazing.


I do my job well. :happy:

Without 20 stans following him, Insider is really bad at keeping momentum in a debate.
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