First off why didn't this page refresh when I clicked on "View New Posts"
Satire wrote:Did you gain more respect for me as a debater after today?
Well I always knew you were a good debator, just that you're not as argumentative as me or class, and we rarely see you get into lengthy back and forths. Though you do surprise me from time to time, and I guess you're level headed and aren't driven by emotions, when you debate, which is a good thing.
What do you think MC is implying with that "insert Royce da 5'9 Master Chief sig here" jazz?
He wants Royce Da 5'9's penis to perforate his anal cavity, simple as that.
Who is your GOAT favorite?
If you mean by GOAT candidate by the liikes of Pac, Big, Nas, Eminem, and Jay. Than Nas.
If you meant in my top 10 than it's tough but I'll go with Ghostface, he was a part of 5 classics meaning 36 Chambers, Wu Forever, OB4CL, Ironman, and Supreme Clientele. Add in his solid disco minus Ghostdeini and his major features in album like Liquid Swords and he's quite the workhouse.
He's also one of the few emcees that I believe can make just about any beat work through pure passion, very few mcs can do this. He has crossover R&B appeal somewhat, and is an excellent storyteller (one of rap's best), as well working with a variety of flows. He can change with the times as seen how he was able to dominate the Noir Era, and utilize his own style in Sureme Clientele which is refreshing and unique. All other Wu members pretty much crumbled, ironic how their last "classic" album was Wu Forever.
He has influence and personality, I can't listen an mc who has no unique style, but is just a machine and raps with all the technicalities down but has no personality.
Is the classthe_speech beef getting tedious?
It's semi amusing, but yeah they should just bury it. I know class is going to say he needs to hop off his nuts, but he isn't completely innocuous in this either. I'd like to see a new forum beef honestly.
classthe_king wrote:What do you think of AOTP? They have great deliveries, beats and flows and mostly have "real lyrics", not "lyrical rap". So I figured you would like them.
I actually haven't listened to them that much or checked out their group albums, but I do like Celph, Apathy and Paz.
Even though I don't talk about it that much, I do like SIHKIH (mostly cause they keep sampling P's voice), and Paz was a pretty solid mc in that album. I liked a lot of the hooks actually, though I do agree with Satire that he can't convey emotion that well. Still I loved Serenity in Murder, Uncommon Valor, Razorblade Salvation, Heavy Metal Kings (P's voice is the hook), and Black Winter Day.
Apathy I haven't listened to a whole album, but he's a great mc, he has lyrics, flow, delivery. Though I feel at times that he's the type of mc with no purpose but just raps. Still great, and loved his features in Nineteen Ninety Now, he feels like 2010 Big L on steroids in the song Swashbuckling, though that beat felt like it was made specifically for Big L. (L on that beat would have been orgasmic).
Celph Titled, I actually like his delivery a lot, I'm a fan of rappers with deep voice I guess (I liked Sean Price's verse on Troopers cause of that), and he has some pretty good punchlines. Nineteen Ninety Now was amazing though and one of my favorites from last year, weird how this forum doesn't bring that album up that much.
And yeah the beats were great, we need more albums like that actually, the diplomatic albums where it takes X and Y which we both like (me being old school hip hop beats, and you underground rappers like AOTP and mixes them into one). It's like a peace treaty actually and brings out the best of both sides.
Either way, if they're one of my favorite groups behind Wu, The Roots, and Doomtree. I don't consider duos, groups.
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