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Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby xnoxiousx » May 30th, '11, 04:39

Most artists now that are putting out records stiill are not as good. Im not sure why. I dont know but all rap albums and songs from 2005-2011 cant compare to any thing during early 1990's and early 2000's.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby dead prez » May 30th, '11, 04:58

This has basically been addressed in another thread, rap now has advanced in many ways from the 90s, and has improved technically.

However if you meant the amount of quality material out from 88-96, and compare it to what's out recently. Than the amount of quality output, blows today's rap out of the water, meaning there was more momementum and spark when rappers were actually hungry and trying to make a name for themselves. Hence the many renaissances that were prevalent back than, now it may be argued we improved in just about ever way technically, but we rely on separate, desolate, disparate underground groups to try and break the mold and make a difference.

-And lemme ask you this how much rap have you listened to from 2005-2011, for you to be making that bold statement?

-And how many rap albums did you listen to these years that you're sacred cowing like there's no tomorrow to be hyping them up like some sort of untouchable era that can't be surpassed?
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby Fa-Q » May 30th, '11, 12:23

It has...along with your English
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 30th, '11, 13:58

what diction said.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby flyingmonkey10 » May 30th, '11, 14:14

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:what diction said.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » May 30th, '11, 15:45

Mainstream rap has, like Gucci Mane, Rick Ross, Wiz Khalifa, all that bullshit. But technically, rap has advanced by a great deal, you just gotta look for good rap.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby christalgurl » May 30th, '11, 16:14

I think it's gotten better. You can't just listen to the mainstream artists and their hits; you've got to dig a little deeper than that to get to the really great music.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby One Mic » May 30th, '11, 17:01

Yeah, it has. The essence of hip hop has gone.

Social-networking such as Facebook and Twitter killed it. YouTube too. I hate this digital generation.

More likely to have a hip hop beef over Twitter these days, than in 'real life'. See who can get the most retweets or some shit.

Too many geeks listen to it these days too, it fell off hard.

Hip Hop before the internet got big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby MikeNUFC » May 30th, '11, 17:49

One Mic wrote:Too many geeks listen to it these days too, it fell off hard.

I fucking hate shit like this. Comments like this are the main problem with hip-hop - fans box the genre into a small space limiting it's creativity.

Anyone should be able to listen/become a part of hip-hop whether you're a "geek" (let's mock intellegent people) or a gangster.

The way in which hip-hop spawns audiences is one reason I love it.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby Satire » May 30th, '11, 17:50

One Mic wrote:Too many geeks listen to it these days too, it fell off hard.


Holy fucking shit you have to be trolling.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby One Mic » May 30th, '11, 18:02

Michael Jackson spawns audiences more than hip-hop, on his own tbh.

The range in demographics of MJ's fanbase is larger than Hip Hop.

And I don't consider a few pop songs that appeal to teenage girls by the likes of Drake, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Lil Wayne etc spawning audiences, nor do I consider it "hip hop".
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 30th, '11, 18:31

One Mic wrote:Yeah, it has. The essence of hip hop has gone.

Social-networking such as Facebook and Twitter killed it. YouTube too. I hate this digital generation.

More likely to have a hip hop beef over Twitter these days, than in 'real life'. See who can get the most retweets or some shit.

Too many geeks listen to it these days too, it fell off hard.

Hip Hop before the internet got big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


YOU DAT NIKKA FROM DA HOOD AINT YA!!

lol @ how many stupid bold statements are in this post,this guy speaks on hip hop where he admires giggs,if u are gonna say that technology is killing hip hop,atleast post 1 fucking logical explanation on how its doin so,if DEM GEEKZ SON! listen to hip hop,how can that logically lead you to saying that it fell off,do DEM GEEKZ make the music,all i see is you talking out you're ass,in other words you talkin shit :shifty:
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 30th, '11, 18:35

One Mic wrote:Michael Jackson spawns audiences more than hip-hop, on his own tbh.

The range in demographics of MJ's fanbase is larger than Hip Hop.

And I don't consider a few pop songs that appeal to teenage girls by the likes of Drake, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Lil Wayne etc spawning audiences, nor do I consider it "hip hop".


same shit could be said abt Em,didnt his single attract and appealed to teenage girls,wether we like it or not all these artists are rappers therefore hip hop.
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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby One Mic » May 30th, '11, 19:26

^ You consider this hip hop lol?

Dude is soft as fuck, this aint grown man music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn6-c223DUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTDv_szmL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks

Just proves my point how it fell off tbh.

How can we go from this....



....to this

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Re: Has most rap got worse over the years?

Postby Hiphopdane » May 30th, '11, 19:46

What exactly seperates B.o.b from being hip hop?

Hip hop is a product of a billion genres such as electro, jazz, reggae and soul. Kraftwerk is considered pioneers ffs.
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