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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby NicoleEM » May 26th, '11, 06:42

Atone The Underdog wrote:
NicoleEM wrote:Ehhh ...don't miss-understand me this is good news but...no release date for Detox yet..and 50 been recording for it before lol.Question is who ISN'T on Detox :coffee:


Eazy E

You got this one right...they never settled the beef before he died right?Cause if they did...he might have some of Eazy's lyrics somewhere.. lol
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby Atone » Jun 1st, '11, 02:43

NicoleEM wrote:
Atone The Underdog wrote:
NicoleEM wrote:Ehhh ...don't miss-understand me this is good news but...no release date for Detox yet..and 50 been recording for it before lol.Question is who ISN'T on Detox :coffee:


Eazy E

You got this one right...they never settled the beef before he died right?Cause if they did...he might have some of Eazy's lyrics somewhere.. lol



Dre i think visited Eazy in the hospital, i think that was his way of squashin the beef

idk tho, not sure if he visited him or not, it's just what i heard
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby EminemBase » Jun 1st, '11, 02:51

If it's just a hook, :y: if it's a verse, or verses (that he wrote, and with his usual delivery effort) then :shakehead: :facepalm :n: and that will = part of Detox ruined.

And given that Dre is such a 'perfectionist' I'm surprised he can't hear the low quality of 50's rapping and lyricism lmao. Especially for a project with such expectations.

Dre's less of a perfectionist and more of a slug who can't make decisions. People always say he's been 'working' on Detox for 'ten years' lmao. Which, he himself even says - he hasn't been working on it. It was mentioned around 2004, so that's seven years for one.

Secondly, that's just when it was mentioned and he's sporadically made tracks on and off since then but never fully committed to it. So that's hardly working on it is it, he's just never completed it. Entirely different thing. But, yeah, 50 on Detox as a rapper? ehhh.

Why am I acting like I care anyway haha, Detox will just be 15 cliche gangsta rap tracks and everybody will be disappointed because they were expecting some kind of Mozart meets G-Funk hip-hop affair, which it obviously will not be.

It's just gonna be a slew of tracks re-stating how important he is and how the game can't live without him, even though it has / does and will do. And, all the subject-matter will be about his past achievements and how he doesn't need to prove anything else - even though he does that on every single project, even when he does need to prove things :laughing:

It's like "yeah, what I do is... I write songs about... well, people write songs about songs I've... others have written about the songs that... others have written. For me. Over beats that I turned a nob here and there on and got full credit for. PS. I'm a legend :smoking: oh and, blunts and bitches ;)".
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 1st, '11, 02:55

EminemBase wrote:If it's just a hook, :y: if it's a verse, or verses (that he wrote, and with his usual delivery effort) then :shakehead: :facepalm :n: and that will = part of Detox ruined.

And given that Dre is such a 'perfectionist' I'm surprised he can't hear the low quality of 50's rapping and lyricism lmao. Especially for a project with such expectations.

When has Dre ever been about lyricism? He's about smooth production, smooth voices and "big screen TVs, blunts, 40s, and bitches". AKA 50 freaking Cent. Who do you think Dre wants on here, Slaughterhouse?
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby EminemBase » Jun 1st, '11, 02:59

FreeSpeech wrote:
EminemBase wrote:If it's just a hook, :y: if it's a verse, or verses (that he wrote, and with his usual delivery effort) then :shakehead: :facepalm :n: and that will = part of Detox ruined.

And given that Dre is such a 'perfectionist' I'm surprised he can't hear the low quality of 50's rapping and lyricism lmao. Especially for a project with such expectations.

When has Dre ever been about lyricism? He's about smooth production, smooth voices and "big screen TVs, blunts, 40s, and bitches". AKA 50 freaking Cent. Who do you think Dre wants on here, Slaughterhouse?


What are you talking about. 50 Cent is an awful rapper period, in every aspect.

It's not about subject-matter, if it was don't you think I would have mentioned other rappers in on the project who always just rap about weed and bitches?

50 Cent mumbles and cannot even write about simple things well. So he'll ruin any song he's on regardless of the subject-matter. Just listen to "Crack a Bottle" for proof. It was a silly song anyway but his performance is embarrassing.

So, it's not about substance or fulfilling lyricism, it's about the fact his verse will be so ridiculously bad structure wise and so lazily delivered that it'll ruin the song.
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 1st, '11, 03:06

EminemBase wrote:What are you talking about. 50 Cent is an awful rapper period, in every aspect.

It's not about subject-matter, if it was don't you think I would have mentioned other rappers in on the project who always just rap about weed and bitches?

50 Cent mumbles and cannot even write about simple things well. So he'll ruin any song he's on regardless of the subject-matter. Just listen to "Crack a Bottle" for proof. It was a silly song anyway but his performance is embarrassing.

So, it's not about substance or fulfilling lyricism, it's about the fact his verse will be so ridiculously bad structure wise and so lazily delivered that it'll ruin the song.

-He wasn't bad on CAB
-When combined with Dre production, he's fire. That's why he fell off after GRODT (whick I stand by as an amazing album), Dre stopped producing for him.
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby Manly Moose » Jun 1st, '11, 03:50

EminemBase wrote:If it's just a hook, :y:


NOOOOOO

Your Never Overs hook > 95% of 50s hooks.

On a side note, what was so good about GRODT, nothing on there impressed me except how many good beats he managed to waste. I wouldnt say it was bad, but nowhere near classic.
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby OMEGA » Jun 1st, '11, 03:56

Say what you say about 50, "delivery" isn't his weak spot. Not in the least.

Dude may have one of the best delivery/flow in the industry.

I say this based on his GRODT / The Massacre songs.
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby EminemBase » Jun 1st, '11, 04:07

FreeSpeech wrote:
EminemBase wrote:What are you talking about. 50 Cent is an awful rapper period, in every aspect.

It's not about subject-matter, if it was don't you think I would have mentioned other rappers in on the project who always just rap about weed and bitches?

50 Cent mumbles and cannot even write about simple things well. So he'll ruin any song he's on regardless of the subject-matter. Just listen to "Crack a Bottle" for proof. It was a silly song anyway but his performance is embarrassing.

So, it's not about substance or fulfilling lyricism, it's about the fact his verse will be so ridiculously bad structure wise and so lazily delivered that it'll ruin the song.

-He wasn't bad on CAB
-When combined with Dre production, he's fire. That's why he fell off after GRODT (whick I stand by as an amazing album), Dre stopped producing for him.


- He was abysmal on CAB.
- No, he was just a better rapper in that period and Dre happened to produce SOME of the tracks on Get Rich. But, he was a lot better on Power of the Dollar.

But, attributing Dre for his better stuff doesn't work as "Many Men" is widely recognized as one of his best tracks and that wasn't touched by Dre.

Then look at some of his better more recent material such as "Stretch". That's his best song in years in my opinion, also not produced by Dre. I think he's just lazy and uncreative. And, now and then he'll strike up the odd good idea but, he's not a decent artist. Or rapper.

He went downhill from Power of the Dollar and never got back on track. After Get Rich he became a truly awful rapper. I mean, he was already a bad rapper on that album, it was only the hooks and the beats which made that album so memorable.

Omega wrote:Say what you say about 50, "delivery" isn't his weak spot. Not in the least.

Dude may have one of the best delivery/flow in the industry.

I say this based on his GRODT / The Massacre songs.


WHHHHAAAAT. One of the best flows in the fucking industry? :facepalm

No. Way. On Earth.

On Power of the Dollar, 50 had a nice flow. It still wasn't spot-on but it was mostly on-time and a lot sharper. Since then, he's been embarrassing to listen to.

Occassionally he'll rap okay like on "Never Enough" or "Stretch". But his DELIVERY aka his annunciation of words, clarity and emphasizing, as a rapper is... absolutely terrible.

Are you seriously saying 50 Cent is one of the clearest rappers with the best timing? because by flow, I don't mean some slurry laid back muffle. People seem to think a good flow is being 'laid back' or something they can smoke weed to.

If that's what you mean then yes, he has a 'good flow'. But by good flow I mean actual structure, as in... rapping with structure. Delivering well-structured rhymes with confidence in an exciting and original way, emphasizing and bolderizing the rhymes with whatever emotion etc. etc.

He's good at almost no aspect of flow. His fast rapping is as bad as his slow rapping. "Never Enough" is as good as his flow had sounded since Power of the Dollar, probably because Em wrote that verse and showed him how to flow it. 50 said Em does that for him too. And it's obvious he didn't write that verse.

50 obviously didn't spend hours upon hours mastering the art of rap so that's why he's not a master of any aspect of it, including flow. He's just a gangsta / ex drug-dealer who saw it as a way out and had a vague sense of melody and a little passion for rhyming.

He's unclear, he mumbles (and yes I'm aware of the mouth bullet / tongue), he wastes whatever structure or good rhymes he does have, he slurs through everything and constantly goes off beat. If you like 50 that's fine but saying he's got one of the best flows in the industry is simply... ironic and absurd.
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby Fiftys_Advocate » Jun 1st, '11, 09:21

constantly goes off beat


:confusion: :facepalm
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby Alex2012 » Jun 1st, '11, 13:09

Detox will eventually be Dre's posthumous album...

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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jun 1st, '11, 13:39

LOL @ 50 is wack. :laughing:
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Jun 1st, '11, 15:55

Embase just trying to be clever. :facepalm

50 is a great rapper who has hits after hits.


Btw, a new tweet.

50cent 50cent
I did a joint with dre for his album that's crazy. They were suppose to put it out this weekend but you never know with dre
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I wanted an album so rugged nobody could touch it.
Spent a million a track and went over my budget.
Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
I can't rap anymore, I just murdered the alphabet.
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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby JasonOne99 » Jun 1st, '11, 16:11

EminemBase wrote:He went downhill from Power of the Dollar and never got back on track. After Get Rich he became a truly awful rapper.

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Re: 50 Cent will be on Detox

Postby OMEGA » Jun 1st, '11, 17:08

Here's the song that backs up my statement that 50 has one of the smoothest flows in the industry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o70NhwFJsQM

Guy's like butter on bread.
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