Em's "I'm On Everything" Verse (1st)...

[EminemBase]

...I think is generally an improvement on his recent, sometimes patchy lyricism?

In terms of the rhyming and structure, it seems somewhat smoother like the multies are sort of falling into place more like they used to, more conversational and free-flowing.

I like the verse too, especially the 'devil in my noodle' line. That's vintage phrasing.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

nothing tops Welcome 2 hell!

[Trimss]

nothing tops Welcome 2 hell!

I have to agree. Welcome 2 Hell is my favorite song on the EP, then Above The Law/Reunion.

But I litteraly love every song, except Loud Noises. I don't love it, I don't hate it. It's meh.


You're right though, his first verse looks like a mix of Relapse/Recovery. The "smoke some chronic in a cab with donovan mc nab" line, or something like that, comes just so naturally, it's dope.

[skeptic]

imo, his verse is pretty okay.
but the song is just... i don't know, it's kinda retarded.

[flyingmonkey10]

fantastic line in i'm on everything:
I’m the real macaroni you cheesy bitch, I’m demonic with the kraft

[One Mic]

By far the worst song on the EP. I disliked it from the 1st listen

[EminemBase]

By far the worst song on the EP. I disliked it from the 1st listen

I disliked it at first but I definitely like it now.

For me "Lighters" is EASILY the worst song on the EP due to the chorus and totally out of place, and it sounds ridiculous and embarrassing.

[One Mic]

^ Yeah but, No "Lighters", No EP

Needed something like that for a big label like Interscope to allow Eminem to release a collaborative EP with an unknown rapper, to most of the world.

Lighters is better anyway. In my opinion, of course.

[MikeNUFC]

For me "Lighters" is EASILY the worst song on the EP due to the chorus and totally out of place, and it sounds ridiculous and embarrassing.

I wouldn't say, easily, but, yeah, it's the worst for me too. Em's and Royce's vocals sound absolutely pathetic when listened with the rest of the album. Bruno Mars has a typically pussy, watered down "I have no edge to my music" chorus and the beat is totally out of place.

I don't really like the EP that much but it would flow perfectly if that song was replaced. Quite obviously a song purely for a radio listener, and, whether it's to get Royce attention or not (I'd be suprised if it wasn't Jimmy's idea to have it on there to push more sales as there is no real single material on there aside that), it's still an awful inclusion.

[EminemBase]

For me "Lighters" is EASILY the worst song on the EP due to the chorus and totally out of place, and it sounds ridiculous and embarrassing.

I wouldn't say, easily, but, yeah, it's the worst for me too. Em's and Royce's vocals sound absolutely pathetic when listened with the rest of the album. Bruno Mars has a typically pussy, watered down "I have no edge to my music" chorus and the beat is totally out of place.

I don't really like the EP that much but it would flow perfectly if that song was replaced. Quite obviously a song purely for a radio listener, and, whether it's to get Royce attention or not (I'd be suprised if it wasn't Jimmy's idea to have it on there to push more sales as there is no real single material on there aside that), it's still an awful inclusion.

Yeah the EP would definitely flow perfectly if not for that track. And I'm surprised by how perfect it flows (regardless of taste preference of each song) considering they say it was just 'thrown together' or, not planned or anything.

As soon as I saw Bruno Mars on the track list I knew it was going to be another Relapse for me though. Relapse flows very well (and all the tracks work / feel relevant), I think, without "Beautiful" and it's the same ridiculous inclusion. And regardless of Em's crock of shit 'to remind me' excuse, I also think it was put there as a safety track and single material. Due to everything else bar "We Made You" being too hardcore.

But it sticks out in that same way and just sounds absurdly out of place. Yet, I'm still surprised by how nobody else seems to agree with me on the "Beautiful" / Relapse thing. Mostly because people like the track. But that's irrelevant to what I mean, it just sounds stupid with the other tracks.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

One of the worst songs on the EP, but I still like it...says a lot on how much I like the music we've been given. I love his first verse, though, I've always liked it.

And I agree on Lighters. Easily the worst on the whole EP for me, I even think Em and Royce both sound awkward on it...

[One Mic]

@EminemBase

From Track 1 - 14 on Relapse, it flowed acceptably ok, right?

Then it's Track 15 (Mr Mathers Skit) which leads us up to Track 16 (Deja Vu), a serious song talking about personal things for the first time on the album, how he almost died etc. Then we get Track 17 (Beautiful), a song influenced and written/recorded? around the same era of the stuff he is talking about in Deja Vu.

I'm just so fucking depressed
I just can't seem to get out this slump

etc

It works.

Then we get a nice juxtaposition from when Eminem was absent from rap and a depressed mindframe (Beautiful) to the "new Eminem" (Crack A Botle) which was his official comeback song and is him just fucking around, glad to be back again, having fun, being silly, etc

Then we get Steve Berman skit explaining how there are two CD's (in reference to Relapse 2) and to finish the album it's... 'Underground'

I mean if you look at the first four songs on the album to the last four songs on the album...

3 AM
My Mom
Insane
Bagpipes from Baghdad

Deja Vu
Beautiful
Crack A Bottle
Underground

They could potentially be on different albums tbh. I think you're over-exaggerating how 'Beautiful' is out of place

[xxTrigger1989xx]

@EminemBase

From Track 1 - 14 on Relapse, it flowed acceptably ok, right?

Then it's Track 15 (Mr Mathers Skit) which leads us up to Track 16 (Deja Vu), a serious song talking about personal things for the first time on the album, how he almost died etc. Then we get Track 17 (Beautiful), a song influenced and written/recorded? around the same era of the stuff he is talking about in Deja Vu.

I'm just so fucking depressed
I just can't seem to get out this slump

etc

It works.

Then we get a nice juxtaposition from when Eminem was absent from rap and a depressed mindframe (Beautiful) to the "new Eminem" (Crack A Botle) which was his official comeback song and is him just fucking around, glad to be back again, having fun, being silly, etc

Then we get Steve Berman skit explaining how there are two CD's (in reference to Relapse 2) and to finish the album it's... 'Underground'

I mean if you look at the first four songs on the album to the last four songs on the album...

3 AM
My Mom
Insane
Bagpipes from Baghdad

Deja Vu
Beautiful
Crack A Bottle
Underground

They could potentially be on different albums tbh. I think you're over-exaggerating how 'Beautiful' is out of place

You notice that the songs start to take a change of pace after Must Be The Ganja. You get Deja Vu, a song where he almost died, Beautiful, a post-near death depression song, then Crack A Bottle, a celebratory, post-rehab song. Then on Underground he walks out of rehab, vowing to ignore everything he learned. It makes sense, that way.

[EminemBase]

@EminemBase

From Track 1 - 14 on Relapse, it flowed acceptably ok, right?

Then it's Track 15 (Mr Mathers Skit) which leads us up to Track 16 (Deja Vu), a serious song talking about personal things for the first time on the album, how he almost died etc. Then we get Track 17 (Beautiful), a song influenced and written/recorded? around the same era of the stuff he is talking about in Deja Vu.

I'm just so fucking depressed
I just can't seem to get out this slump

etc

It works.

Then we get a nice juxtaposition from when Eminem was absent from rap and a depressed mindframe (Beautiful) to the "new Eminem" (Crack A Botle) which was his official comeback song and is him just fucking around, glad to be back again, having fun, being silly, etc

Then we get Steve Berman skit explaining how there are two CD's (in reference to Relapse 2) and to finish the album it's... 'Underground'

I mean if you look at the first four songs on the album to the last four songs on the album...

3 AM
My Mom
Insane
Bagpipes from Baghdad

Deja Vu
Beautiful
Crack A Bottle
Underground

They could potentially be on different albums tbh. I think you're over-exaggerating how 'Beautiful' is out of place

You've once again, like everybody else, confused my point.

My point is NOT that the CONTENT does not work on the album (or that it's out-of-order). Otherwise don't you think I'd be making the exact same criticism of "Deja Vu"?

Like I said, it SOUNDS stupid. In the same way that "Lighters" sounds ridiculous on the EP to me because it has a poppy soft beat and Bruno Mars on the chorus in the mix of hardcore rap tracks by a duo called Bad Meets Evil.

That is why "Beautiful" sounds absurd on Relapse to me. Again, sounds, I'm talking about the objective sound of the music and its style to my ears, not the content, what he's saying or its place / sequence on the album. It sounds objectively absurd to me on there as it sounds nothing like the other tracks.

It was made for a different album, in a different recording session, with a different Eminem style, with an Eminem-produced beat with a Queen rock sample on there. It has a sung chorus and is a stadium-esque rock-rap ballad and his voice sounds 06ish. Compare that to the bouncy, menacing Dre beats and tricky, accent-heavy, somewhat nasal, speedy Relapse flow(s) of every other track and surely then you can hear what I mean?

It sounds nothing like the other tracks and was not intended for the album. Exact same point with "Lighters". My complaint is absolutely the sound of it.

Just like "Rock Bottom" fits absolutely fine on The Slim Shady LP because it sounds like the other tracks. His style is like the other tracks, the beat meshes and it sounds like it should be there. Where as, can you imagine "When I'm Gone" on there?

That's how ridiculous "Beautiful" sounds to me on Relapse.

[One Mic]

Well I think it sounds fine on there tbh.

The only time I even questioned it's place on the album is when you kept banging on about it for 700 posts, so I went back and re-visited it, and even then I thought "mehhh, nah it still works"