Sadistik's The Balancing Act...

[FreeSpeech]

You're a moron. You try to lecture me on paragraphs and shit, yet have yours all mixed up so it looks like you're addressing my review. I'm pretty sure you're tolling, but if you seriously wrote that huge response to someone misusing a word,, you're an even bigger moron.

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I think the phrasing of it is pretentious.

It reeks of desperation to impress and is clearly unnatural phrasing for him ie. not everyday phrasing he would use, which is fine as it's literature and not real-life and he's an artist so he's supposed to indulge BUT...

That line is just begging to be quoted as genius, and... wanting to impress is fine, that's natural but that line is an over-indulgence in ridiculously obvious poetic phrasing, as if the phrasing itself is a shortcut to art.

That is why, to me - it's pretentious.

Now, as for 'his writing' in general, did you not read my post properly? as I think you'll find I said "I've never listened to Sadistik so I'm not gonna say anything about him, as I know nothing about him". I didn't make a statement on 'his writing' as I have never listened to him. I just commented on that line which objectively makes me laugh.

That line is the kind of thing I'd write at 15, without really knowing who I am or what I want to say and relying on 'poetic sounding' words to try and automatically sound like a wordsmith.

So no it's not because he's using 'big words', don't be ridiculous. I use plenty of 'big words' myself, I love language. Those words are not even 'big' for one thing. And plenty of rappers use big words. It's how you use them and the kind of words that you use. And what you're saying. And that line is a dense little over-abundance of certain 'kinds' of words, to try and sound on a higher station. Trying to sound profound but just being... very bad. It's bad because it's not genuine it's pretentious. No other word I could use to describe it could fit it better. I could write a million lines like that.

But probably none as unintentionally funny as "To bathe the silhouette"

I already covered this..

There's nothing pretentious about being abstract, just because you can't grasp an understanding of (or choose to remain ignorant to) what's being said.

Everyone says, "I could write that!!" But ultimately fails to ever do-so. I don't think you'd be any different.

But I couldn't care less about whether or not anyone likes Sadistik. I'm not here to advocate for rappers. I was just telling you that you're wrong. And you are.

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You're a moron. You try to lecture me on paragraphs and shit, yet have yours all mixed up so it looks like you're addressing my review. I'm pretty sure you're tolling, but if you seriously wrote that huge response to someone misusing a word,, you're an even bigger moron.

Yeah, because taking a total of 10 minutes out of my time (that would be spent either working on a verse or watching Prison Break) to make a couple of posts addressing an obviously distorted view of someone's music, makes me a 'moron'; but taking the time to listen to an entire album of an artist you already know you dislike, think about how best to demean his work and write it all down in a not-so-clever review, then argue back and forth in the topic, somehow doesn't make YOU your own definition of a 'moron'? Your logic eludes me, FreeSpeech.

[FreeSpeech]

Haha stop dodging the issue, your post was horribly worded. I don't care if you dont like my opinion, that's not what I'm talking about. So yes you're an idiot.

And no, I gave him a chance. I hadn't heard a ton from him so I wanted to listen to the whole album. That's how artists, especially ones like sadistik, intend it to be heard. I was hoping to be pleasantly surprise and I wasn't. Are you really criticizing me for giving a paper a fair chance??? Get out of here.

[EminemBase]

There's nothing pretentious about being abstract, just because you can't grasp an understanding of (or choose to remain ignorant to) what's being said.

Lmfao are you kidding me. You're seriously suggesting I don't appreciate abstract writing just because this lame, unintentionally hilarious example of it is pretentious to me?

Don't use such a silly cop-out. I'm a total appreciative of language, creative writing and most CERTAINLY, if anything - abstract thinking. I've done a fair bit of LSD in my time and you seriously have no fucking idea about me to imply I'm at a loss with abstract thought(s) haha.

Everyone says, "I could write that!!" But ultimately fails to ever do-so. I don't think you'd be any different.

But I couldn't care less about whether or not anyone likes Sadistik. I'm not here to advocate for rappers. I was just telling you that you're wrong. And you are.

Like I said, the phrasing is begging to impress on its own heels, it's unintentionally funny due to how bad it is and it's the exact kind of thing I'd write as a teenager when I had nothing to say but wanted to sound like I had everything to say. That is why, it's pretentious.

Now, you say I couldn't write like that, okay, here's a few ridiculous ones off the top...

As I lay to rest my somber thoughts - I morn the death of wisdom.

The rage inside me boils internal, my neurosis fuels inferno.

Life is bleak, careless and relentless is its lessons / I bleed in heartache: toiled and troubled as I intake its impressions.

I almost cringed writing them. But Sadistik's line still takes the cake.

You're of course going to say those lines are nothing like Sadistik's but, that's to be expected. That kind of writing = David Brent's poem in The Office. If there's any fans of the show (original) here you'll know which one I mean. The one he reads to Dawn about stabbing a dagger in his cock.

People like you who think that kind of writing is the epitome of great writing / poetry and think you really get it, couldn't get it less and it's hilarious how in-fact wrong you are.

[Satire]

Life is like a red, thorn-covered paintbrush.

[EminemBase]

Life is like a red, thorn-covered paintbrush.

[FreeSpeech]

There's nothing pretentious about being abstract, just because you can't grasp an understanding of (or choose to remain ignorant to) what's being said.

Lmfao are you kidding me. You're seriously suggesting I don't appreciate abstract writing just because this lame, unintentionally hilarious example of it is pretentious to me?

Don't use such a silly cop-out. I'm a total appreciative of language, creative writing and most CERTAINLY, if anything - abstract thinking. I've done a fair bit of LSD in my time and you seriously have no fucking idea about me to imply I'm at a loss with abstract thought(s) haha.

Everyone says, "I could write that!!" But ultimately fails to ever do-so. I don't think you'd be any different.

But I couldn't care less about whether or not anyone likes Sadistik. I'm not here to advocate for rappers. I was just telling you that you're wrong. And you are.

Like I said, the phrasing is begging to impress on its own heels, it's unintentionally funny due to how bad it is and it's the exact kind of thing I'd write as a teenager when I had nothing to say but wanted to sound like I had everything to say. That is why, it's pretentious.

Now, you say I couldn't write like that, okay, here's a few ridiculous ones off the top...

As I lay to rest my somber thoughts - I morn the death of wisdom.

The rage inside me boils internal, my neurosis fuels inferno.

Life is bleak, careless and relentless is its lessons / I bleed in heartache: toiled and troubled as I intake its impressions.

I almost cringed writing them. But Sadistik's line still takes the cake.

You're of course going to say those lines are nothing like Sadistik's but, that's to be expected. That kind of writing = David Brent's poem in The Office. If there's any fans of the show (original) here you'll know which one I mean. The one he reads to Dawn about stabbing a dagger in his cock.

People like you who think that kind of writing is the epitome of great writing / poetry and think you really get it, couldn't get it less and it's hilarious how in-fact wrong you are.

Boom. Roasted (American office)

I'm sorry for fucking with your t-shirt thread haha

[EminemBase]

^ No worries.

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Now, you say I couldn't write like that, okay, here's a few ridiculous ones off the top...

As I lay to rest my somber thoughts - I morn the death of wisdom.

The rage inside me boils internal, my neurosis fuels inferno.

Life is bleak, careless and relentless is its lessons / I bleed in heartache: toiled and troubled as I intake its impressions.

I almost cringed writing them. But Sadistik's line still takes the cake.

You're of course going to say those lines are nothing like Sadistik's but, that's to be expected.

You're right.. Because it's not. An amateur attempt is always an amateur attempt. Kinda like Hopsin trying to be Eminem.. Still an amateur attempt, although done much better than yours.

People like you who think that kind of writing is the epitome of great writing / poetry and think you really get it, couldn't get it less and it's hilarious how in-fact wrong you are.

Hmm. You accuse me of not knowing you, then you say, "people like you," without ever knowing how I actually feel about that sort of writing. When, in all actuality, I dont perceive that sort of writing as the be-all-end-all of poetic rap. Not at all. Hence why I said I'm not Sadistik's biggest fan. So your entire argument is voided by the fact you made false presumptions about my music taste, based on my statement that Sadistik's music isn't pretentious. Which it's not. Many reviews of his album would agree with me.

Would you like to try again? In reality, we're arguing over a word. I've never claimed Sadistik was the best, just that his music isn't pretentious. Difference of opinions. You can huff and puff all you'd like, but it isn't going to change anything. And he still has plenty enough fans that he can live off from his music.. So that must say something.


inb4 you mention something about his fans being idiots, or anything along those lines.

[VenomBlackViper]

The light in these cloudy skies illuminates these cloudy eyes.

[EminemBase]

Now, you say I couldn't write like that, okay, here's a few ridiculous ones off the top...

As I lay to rest my somber thoughts - I morn the death of wisdom.

The rage inside me boils internal, my neurosis fuels inferno.

Life is bleak, careless and relentless is its lessons / I bleed in heartache: toiled and troubled as I intake its impressions.

I almost cringed writing them. But Sadistik's line still takes the cake.

You're of course going to say those lines are nothing like Sadistik's but, that's to be expected.

You're right.. Because it's not. An amateur attempt is always an amateur attempt. Kinda like Hopsin trying to be Eminem.. Still an amateur attempt, although done much better than yours.

Nothing much to add here. As I said, was expected you'd say that. You have a natural bias due to the fact we're debating and you wish to look right, so - we can just allow others to make their own minds up on how alike they are.

People like you who think that kind of writing is the epitome of great writing / poetry and think you really get it, couldn't get it less and it's hilarious how in-fact wrong you are.

Hmm. You accuse me of not knowing you, then you say, "people like you," without ever knowing how I actually feel about that sort of writing.

Not true. You stated how you felt about that line in your response.

You said that it was not pretentious, implied it was good and said he uses 'great abstract imagery'. Those are positive feelings / implications towards it.

So no, I did not make that statement blindly like you did of me, with your nonsensical cop-out that I do not appreciate abstract thinking / writing, just because I think that line is pretentious.

Hence why I said I'm not Sadistik's biggest fan. So your entire argument is voided by the fact you made false presumptions about my music taste, based on my statement that Sadistik's music isn't pretentious. Which it's not. Many reviews of his album would agree with me.

Firstly: no my 'entire' argument is not voided by that, I did not make a presumption of your taste in music. I came to a conclusion of your feelings on that sort of writing due to your matter of fact reply and plain and simple expression on it, in your very first reply.

Secondly: the majority of my argument is based on why I think the line is pretentious, which I back up with plenty of reasoning as to why I think that. So, even if I did make an assumption on you (which I didn't), that is not relevant to the bulk of my argument.

So, what you just said is voided by the fact you confused / misrepresented my argument.

Finally (on this part) - I don't know if you're fully reading what I'm saying or just choosing to ignore this key point that I've said since my very first response to this thread...

I've never listened to Sadistik so I'm not gonna say anything about him, as I know nothing about him. But that line is hilariously pretentious

That was the first post. Then you responded to that, once again inducing his 'general writing' into the conversation as if I was arguing against his writing as a whole...

My second reply then contained the following:

Now, as for 'his writing' in general, did you not read my post properly? as I think you'll find I said "I've never listened to Sadistik so I'm not gonna say anything about him, as I know nothing about him". I didn't make a statement on 'his writing' as I have never listened to him. I just commented on that line which objectively makes me laugh.

So, for the THIRD time now:
1. I have not listened to a single song he has made. Ever.
2. I do not know about or care about his writing in general.
3. I was commenting on that one specific line. And made that clear from the get-go.

You keep seeming to want to induce him as an artist into it or his album(s) or other work... maybe because you can't defend that embarrassing line on its own.

Why the flying fuck are you mentioning his album reviews? please, do this for me: go back and fetch a single instance where I commented on his album... or a single song of his. Or made a general statement about him as a lyricist or artist... I think you'll be hard pressed. As no such statements exist from me. So stop inventing things.

I have no opinion on Sadistik. I just randomly browsed this thread and saw that hilarious line.

Would you like to try again? In reality, we're arguing over a word. I've never claimed Sadistik was the best, just that his music isn't pretentious. Difference of opinions. You can huff and puff all you'd like, but it isn't going to change anything. And he still has plenty enough fans that he can live off from his music.. So that must say something.

No, would you like to? once again, never said his music was pretentious. I said that line is.

I'm not huffing and puffing at all. Incase you haven't noticed I've been mostly chuckling my ass off, at that line. And then my own horrendous lines / imitations. CMAO.

Finally, why are you mentioning his fans... no opinion on him as a rapper, artist, his fans, his albums, never heard a single thing he's done. Just found this line to be unintentionally funny, cringing and pretentious. So made a post about it.

Then you arrogantly and immediately assert I don't appreciate abstract writing simply because this line is fucking awful to me. And then have the cheek to end your latest response with 'difference of opinions' despite flat out telling me in your prior responses 'you're wrong'.

If you're going to be ignorant, at least be consistently ignorant.

inb4 you mention something about his fans being idiots, or anything along those lines.

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If you're going to be ignorant, at least be consistently ignorant.

I'd have to follow in your foot steps for that.. I'd rather not be a follower.

It's 1 AM and I really can't be bothered breaking down your posts any more than I already have. I told you I'm not here to advocate for Sadistik. If this were about Slug, Spoonfull, Eyedea, etc. it would be a different story.. But I don't give 2 shits about Sadistik.

Fact still remains that you're wrong. There's no pretention in his writing.

[EminemBase]

^ At no point have I said or implied you're an advocate for Sadistik and once again I'll state - I have no opinion on him. I made a response on one line, couldn't care who the line was written by. Again. Fourth time. As you can't judge somebody fully from one line, which is why I didn't and yet you continue to speak as if I did and have made my mind up on him.

And no, I'm not wrong. That line is incredibly pretentious. And hilarious. And bad. And I've backed that up with plenty of reasoning and, I guess we both know where we're at so we can just leave others to make their own minds up on what's been said now.

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^ At no point have I said or implied you're an advocate for Sadistik and once again I'll state - I have no opinion on him. I made a response on one line, couldn't care who the line was written by. Again. Fourth time. As you can't judge somebody fully from one line, which is why I didn't and yet you continue to speak as if I did and have made my mind up on him.

And no, I'm not wrong. That line is incredibly pretentious. And hilarious. And bad. And I've backed that up with plenty of reasoning and, I guess we both know where we're at so we can just leave others to make their own minds up on what's been said now.

Atleast you're not a pretentious faggot who attempts to critique spelling and grammar instead of the argument at-hand. Respect for that.

I'll probably break down your post tomorrow, but I really can't right now. I'm too damn tired.