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AbsolutePunk Writer Thomas Nassiff is a Turd...

Postby EminemBase » Jul 30th, '11, 13:10

Just reading the Wiki on "Space Bound" and under Critical Reception:
AbsolutePunk writer Thomas Nassiff, in his review for Recovery, stated that "Space Bound", along with five other songs, were "pure filler" and "don't require more than one listen."


FILLER? what the fuck is his concept of filler lmao.

Any other artist he'd probably call it one of the album's best tracks but because it's Eminem, if it's not a conceptual masterpiece or real life confession it's filler? :confusion:

"Space Bound" is easily one of the album's top tracks and one of his best tracks in years. It's brilliantly written and structured, the guitar production compliments Em's flow beautifully and the bridge is awesome. Overall the song is powerful.

This song is anything but filler. He says that it 'doesn't deserve more than one listen' lmao, I certainly don't envy his taste. What an idiot.

EDIT: Just checked his full review and he says that "Almost Famous" and "Cinderella Man" are also throwaway tracks lmao. Surprise surprise though, this guy also says in his review he doesn't listen to any hip-hop, only Eminem... he clearly has no real appreciation of lyricism. Man, terrible taste. He calls these tracks mediocre, what the fuck is he on.

He also says "Cold Wind Blows" has awful lyrics and that "Talkin' 2 Myself" is one of the strongest. Man, to be honest, I fucking hate fans like this who just think anytime Em talks about 'real shit' it's absolute genius lmao. When he can do it in his fucking sleep, it's so obvious. Fans like this guy are annoying as fuck.

It's also funny how this guy says "Not Afraid" shows glimpses of "Eminem's unparalleled flow" even though he openly declares from the start that he literally doesn't listen to any other hip-hop lmao. How the fuck can you call a rapper's flow 'unparalleled' if you only listen to that one rapper. This guy should not be fucking reviewing hip-hop.
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Re: AbsolutePunk Writer Thomas Nassiff is a Turd...

Postby M&M59 » Jul 30th, '11, 13:51

He has his opinion and you have yours, but how do we decide wich one is right.
i agree with you, "cold wind blows" and "cinderella man" rocks and space bound is very well written.
but when he says that it only deserves one listen, that's his advice to people and by calling him a turd for that seems immature, dosen't it?
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Re: AbsolutePunk Writer Thomas Nassiff is a Turd...

Postby EminemBase » Jul 30th, '11, 14:02

M&M59 wrote:He has his opinion and you have yours, but how do we decide wich one is right.
i agree with you, "cold wind blows" and "cinderella man" rocks and space bound is very well written.
but when he says that it only deserves one listen, that's his advice to people and by calling him a turd for that seems immature, dosen't it?


Well you can decide which one is 'right' to you by checking your taste and then reading the justification for each opinion, and seeing if it adheres to your taste.

This constant "it's all subjective" repetition is very tiresome. All taste is based in objective roots of reasoning, nothing is TRULY subjective. So in fact, it's all objective.

If you think a song is shit, there are objective reasons, logical reasons that your brain dislikes it and why it goes against your definition of good. What's not objective is whether it's definitely good or bad (as there is no scientific, consistent definition of either), but you can still debate whether something is good or bad, if you define the terms.

For example, if we accept that 'good lyricism' in the context of rap, or Eminem... is honest, meaningful and clever and somebody who also agrees with that sentiment says a certain Eminem song is 'crap' lyrically, you can argue on more objective grounds there.

As, the person who thinks it's crap can give actual reasoning why they do not consider the lyrics honest, meaningful or clever and you can respond. And you could prove them wrong to a certain degree. Do you think it's a coincidence that the vast majority of film critics agree on so many films being masterpieces? do you think it's a coincidence the vast majority of music critics think Thriller is a brilliant album? of course not.

Taste is not constantly random and undefinable. If it were then landslide opinions could never really happen. It's defined by intelligence, culture, emotional intelligence and logic. It's no coincidence that less intelligent people cannot understand certain art - so this is why I insult him, as I feel he's less intelligent in certain areas which would be fine except... he's arrogant in his dismissal. Cocky and abrasive like he knows it all. That is why he's a turd.

And if you look at critics' reasoning as to why X film, song, piece of art or whatever is brilliant, they usually all qualify brilliance in round about the same way. So quite clearly, people within the same intelligence bracket and culture usually adhere to the same tramlines of thinking when it comes to good or bad.

Now, I called this guy a turd because he's so massively dismissive of songs that are very well written just because the content of the song is not what he wants. Which I find immature, more immature than me calling him a turd. I for example can appreciate many films even if I hate the subject-matter, but can appreciate they're brilliantly written and directed.

It takes a more mature person and taste to do that. And I seriously doubt this guy, judging from his piss poor review and thinking could properly justify why "Space Bound" is filler. And it annoys me that such a shit writer is writing for a magazine on such a platform. So no, I don't think insulting him is that immature really, I think it's justified, he deserves it.

Oh, and I think it's most immature and naive, and ignorant most of all to say Eminem has an unparalleled flow when he openly admits to listening to no other rap. This guy should not be reviewing... anything. He's a simpleton.
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Re: AbsolutePunk Writer Thomas Nassiff is a Turd...

Postby Timekeeper » Jul 30th, '11, 18:52

I've talked to him before (AbsolutePunk is a solid site) and while I generally agree with his opinions about punk stuff, yeah, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about with Recovery.
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