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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Aug 1st, '11, 20:31

See basically,how i see it is.

Em is not the type of guy that accepts criticism,plus he is naturally an insecure person,so he is obviously insecure about the material he puts out.

therefore,if what is appealing to fans right now (punchlines,poppy beats,emotional tracks,love songs) basically the whole vibe some of recovery came from is what the MAJORITY (key word) of people want,they got,Em sold enormously huge (pause) numbers.

me and you may not like it as much,but im pretty sure he will switch it up next album :sweating:

what he needs to do is not listen to any portion of feedback,that way,we will get what he honestly feels is good.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Sam. » Aug 1st, '11, 20:33

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
what he needs to do is not listen to any portion of feedback,that way,we will get what he honestly feels is good.

and where exactly does he get's this feedback from ?
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Sekou » Aug 1st, '11, 20:37

I don't think Eminem has anything left to rap about. This is the reason he does what he thinks the fans want him to do. Of course there are a million possible directions he COULD branch out to, but right now, there's absolutely nothing that creates a spark in him. Think about it,
Relapse = How the drugs fucked up my head and the crazy murdering phantasies I had
Recovery = I'm back stronger than ever and I'm the new Eminem, I can use punchlines, just like Wayne!
H:TS = I hate women, I'm angry, and I can rap fucking fast while still using punchlines

Unless he finds anything that he's really passionate about, I don't see him regaining back his creativity and originality in order to provide another classic album.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby J.R. » Aug 1st, '11, 20:45

Eminem was hungry on recovery. He sounded like HE sort of liked recovery. Mix that with maybe some changes HE might want, and I think that's where he should go. Whatever pleases him, and there are so many conceptual tracks he could do, so don't pull the he has nothing to write about card. And matter of fact, Em could make a hit like stan, just in the modern day. obviously not as good or big, but a classic could still be made in the next 5 years.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Sekou » Aug 1st, '11, 20:58

BShady14 wrote:Eminem was hungry on recovery. He sounded like HE sort of liked recovery. Mix that with maybe some changes HE might want, and I think that's where he should go. Whatever pleases him, and there are so many conceptual tracks he could do, so don't pull the he has nothing to write about card. And matter of fact, Em could make a hit like stan, just in the modern day. obviously not as good or big, but a classic could still be made in the next 5 years.


You say he was hungry? That's subjective, and I'll say to me he didn't sound hungry at all.
I didn't say that there is nothing that he COULD write about, but right now, there is nothing he is willing to write about.
Look at all the Recovery tracks, Going Through Changes (and Talkin' 2 Myself to a certain extent) is the only track where he was rapping about something that he really needed to get off his chest. The only track that actually had a deeper meaning. Looking back at the SSLP, MMLP and TES, about every track is at least two-dimensional.

Take Brain Damage for example, it may just seem like a fun fictional story about this white kid's childhood. Truth is, Eminem really did get bullied as a child, and the way that he is actually mixing real life experiences with this crazy Slim Shady persona to make a hilarious, perfectly written song that carries a deeper meaning with it too; this is what made him a genius.

Take Seduction, Won't Back Down, On Fire, Cinderella Man, a few other Recovery tracks and basically the entire BME EP for example, they may all seem like tracks that are just filled with fast flows and punchlines; and they all are. There's no second layer to them, there's nothing that Eminem really feels he needs to share with the world.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby J.R. » Aug 1st, '11, 21:02

That is why I also support the fact Em needs to start more shit. His rap was good because he was venting, and now it's taken a hit due to the fact there's nothing to vent about.

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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Bananastyle » Aug 1st, '11, 21:14

Someone with credibility and weight in the hip-hop world needs to do an "I Need A Doctor" type song towards Em. Where he is dissing him but in a respectful way to say "Listen, you're dope as fuck but you need to get your fucking shit together" and not just kiss his ass anytime his name is mentioned.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Amaranthine » Aug 1st, '11, 21:19

MCSam wrote:
Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
what he needs to do is not listen to any portion of feedback,that way,we will get what he honestly feels is good.

and where exactly does he get's this feedback from ?

And that is the question of the day, IMO. Because if he doesn't use the internet or computers, he must be getting this stuff from Interscope - which, naturally, is something they would want to do, because they know that catering to the fans = lots of sales. Relapse was Em writing for Em, and it kind of flopped, at least by Eminem standards. So the label probably panicked and looked for what the fans wanted and passed it on to Em, and then we got Recovery.

Personally, I love Relapse and Recovery equally. I would be thrilled if he continued catering to fans, but I think I would be happier if he wrote for himself and told us to fucking deal with it, because I'm curious to see what sober Em can make when he's just making music for the joy of it. Of course, it'll probably lead to even more bitching than what already goes on around here, but.. :whistle:

And by the way, if the fans want Em to ignore what the fans want and write what he wants to write, and he does it, isn't he still doing what the fans want him to do? /mindblown
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Sam. » Aug 1st, '11, 21:23

Amaranthine wrote:
MCSam wrote:
Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
what he needs to do is not listen to any portion of feedback,that way,we will get what he honestly feels is good.

and where exactly does he get's this feedback from ?

And that is the question of the day, IMO. Because if he doesn't use the internet or computers, he must be getting this stuff from Interscope - which, naturally, is something they would want to do, because they know that catering to the fans = lots of sales. Relapse was Em writing for Em, and it kind of flopped, at least by Eminem standards. So the label probably panicked and looked for what the fans wanted and passed it on to Em, and then we got Recovery.

Personally, I love Relapse and Recovery equally. I would be thrilled if he continued catering to fans, but I think I would be happier if he wrote for himself and told us to fucking deal with it, because I'm curious to see what sober Em can make when he's just making music for the joy of it. Of course, it'll probably lead to even more bitching than what already goes on around here, but.. :whistle:

And by the way, if the fans want Em to ignore what the fans want and write what he wants to write, and he does it, isn't he still doing what the fans want him to do? /mindblown

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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby J.R. » Aug 1st, '11, 22:14

We call all agree Em is still king. Recovery, HTS , beats alot of shit put out today, and he will always be number 1. But, Em is not acting like it any longer.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby SG. » Aug 1st, '11, 22:15

I think he's too busy writing for Detox.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Aug 1st, '11, 22:55

the people that call recovery back just for a portion of the punches being wack are idiots.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Master Chief » Aug 1st, '11, 22:58

While we're talking about Recovery. It seems to me that it's started to get a bit more love now :unsure: Or at least in SL it seems to be.

Now we just gotta wait for the Recovery love wave that will undoubtedly strike this forum...
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby JakeBlack » Aug 1st, '11, 23:03

Master Chief wrote:While we're talking about Recovery. It seems to me that it's started to get a bit more love now :unsure: Or at least in SL it seems to be.

Now we just gotta wait for the Recovery love wave that will undoubtedly strike this forum...

People will start loving Recovery when his next album comes out just like they all love Relapse now.
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Re: Em needs to write for him.

Postby Mr Change » Aug 1st, '11, 23:11

Zabe wrote:I think he's too busy writing for Detox.


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