Christina Aguilera + Eminem Duet on her 2012 album?

[djdixie]

This would be awesome. I hope they do like a back and forth crazy girl track like Superman w/ Em and Dina Rae going back and forth. Thoughts on that idea?

have you seen her youtube, dont think its been updated in a while but their are some really gd vids on their.

[J.R.]

Lolz for fucking with people, they mad.

Anyway, like I said, if Christina brought her talent, it'd be dope. If she did some of the shit she usually does, which sucks ass....I would rather not see it, but knowing Em nowadays, it'll probably happen. and if its dope, I'm down.

[JakeBlack]

Lolz for fucking with people, they mad.

Anyway, like I said, if Christina brought her talent, it'd be dope. If she did some of the shit she usually does, which sucks ass....I would rather not see it, but knowing Em nowadays, it'll probably happen. and if its dope, I'm down.

But she has a great voice though what's the problem?

[J.R.]

Lolz for fucking with people, they mad.

Anyway, like I said, if Christina brought her talent, it'd be dope. If she did some of the shit she usually does, which sucks ass....I would rather not see it, but knowing Em nowadays, it'll probably happen. and if its dope, I'm down.

But she has a great voice though what's the problem?

Sometimes she doesn't use it. @dj seriously let's stop I was just playing lol

[EminemBase]

Lolz for fucking with people, they mad.

Anyway, like I said, if Christina brought her talent, it'd be dope. If she did some of the shit she usually does, which sucks ass....I would rather not see it, but knowing Em nowadays, it'll probably happen. and if its dope, I'm down.

But she has a great voice though what's the problem?

Because what's the point in it, OTHER than making a hit?

Is Christina a creative genius that Em has deep respect for? no. She's a pop star. Yes, she can sing, but somebody being able to sing isn't a good reason to collaborate.

Him collaborating with Dina Rae or singers he'd put on his albums in the past was usually for a reason. With Dina Rae, she was just a nice unknown that had good vocals so she was like his secret weapon to use on songs that needed vocals.

Then with things like "Stan" and "Sing for the Moment" - there's obviously a reason for those. He flipped the sample and gave the songs new meanings.

But, collaborating with Christina Aguilera for the sake of it? it's pointless and lame. Like getting Bruno Mars on a track just to make it a hit. He shouldn't be making music with people just because they have a name, especially at this point. It's something you'd expect him to do early in his career to help himself, not late in his career when he's already solidified his name.

[JakeBlack]

Lolz for fucking with people, they mad.

Anyway, like I said, if Christina brought her talent, it'd be dope. If she did some of the shit she usually does, which sucks ass....I would rather not see it, but knowing Em nowadays, it'll probably happen. and if its dope, I'm down.

But she has a great voice though what's the problem?

Because what's the point in it, OTHER than making a hit?

Is Christina a creative genius that Em has deep respect for? no. She's a pop star. Yes, she can sing, but somebody being able to sing isn't a good reason to collaborate.

Him collaborating with Dina Rae or singers he'd put on his albums in the past was usually for a reason. With Dina Rae, she was just a nice unknown that had good vocals so she was like his secret weapon to use on songs that needed vocals.

Then with things like "Stan" and "Sing for the Moment" - there's obviously a reason for those. He flipped the sample and gave the songs new meanings.

But, collaborating with Christina Aguilera for the sake of it? it's pointless and lame. Like getting Bruno
Mars on a track just to make it a hit. He shouldn't be making music with people just because they have a name, especially at this point. It's something you'd expect him to do early in his career to help himself, not late in his career when he's already solidified his name.

So why didn't you have a problem with him collabing with Rihanna?

[VeNoMmaLicious]

Lolz for fucking with people, they mad.

Anyway, like I said, if Christina brought her talent, it'd be dope. If she did some of the shit she usually does, which sucks ass....I would rather not see it, but knowing Em nowadays, it'll probably happen. and if its dope, I'm down.

But she has a great voice though what's the problem?

Because what's the point in it, OTHER than making a hit?

Is Christina a creative genius that Em has deep respect for? no. She's a pop star. Yes, she can sing, but somebody being able to sing isn't a good reason to collaborate.

Him collaborating with Dina Rae or singers he'd put on his albums in the past was usually for a reason. With Dina Rae, she was just a nice unknown that had good vocals so she was like his secret weapon to use on songs that needed vocals.

Then with things like "Stan" and "Sing for the Moment" - there's obviously a reason for those. He flipped the sample and gave the songs new meanings.

But, collaborating with Christina Aguilera for the sake of it? it's pointless and lame. Like getting Bruno Mars on a track just to make it a hit. He shouldn't be making music with people just because they have a name, especially at this point. It's something you'd expect him to do early in his career to help himself, not late in his career when he's already solidified his name.

He only made that song with Bruno Mars because it will help Royce be known and to promote their EP.

[Sofi]

Now she can actually sing, unlike Rihanna.. this could be good

[EminemBase]

He only made that song with Bruno Mars because it will help Royce be known and to promote their EP.

You do not need to highlight obvious, known things to me.

I KNOW.

That does not fucking excuse it. Putting a well known pop star on an obvious hook to make a hit is a coward's way out.

Eminem's name already has the cache, so that alone will bring Royce attention. So it's an opportunity to do something groundbreaking, not to do something expected and mainstream. Doing a song like "Lighters" is a failure of imagination and wasted opportunity.

And 'blowing Royce up' is not good enough justification for the kind of quality and tone sacrifice that the track represents on the EP.

It was also Royce's idea, so wasn't in fact Em helping Royce but it was Royce helping Royce. Quite clearly Royce just wanted to exploit the fact he was now with Em and try and create a "Love the Way You Lie" cousin track for fame.

Fame should never, ever be the goal. Fame for fame's sake is shallow. It should always be about the material, fame and money should be an upshot. So admitting you made a track to help make you more famous is not something to be proud of, or an excuse. It's pathetic.

[JakeBlack]

So why didn't you have a problem with him collabing with Rihanna?

Cause that collab had a point. Song about domestic violence with Rihanna in it is a great idea.

But maybe this one will have one to we don't know what the content will be so no one should be saying this collaboration is pointless until they heard it.

[Amaranthine]

Christina and Em both have daddy issues...possible song topic, maybe.

[Bananastyle]

My second favorite Office moment and my exact feelings toward the OP.

I'll lose so much respect for him as an artist if he does this. Not that my opinion matters much if I do, but he's just becoming one of the rest of the herd these days.

"These days"? LOL Em complimented Christina back when he was "old Em", the guy who "just didn't give a fuck". You're being immature.

HAHAHA What?!?! I'm immature for having an opinion on what music I like?

This is where I differ from most people on this board. (I assume most posters are younger than me, I'm 26)

I grew up on legit hip-hop. I can clearly remember being in 5th grade and bumping the "Illmatic" and "Liquid Swords" cassette in my WalkMan constantly when they came out. I like raw hip-hop over gritty beats and even at that age fucking hated the Bad Boy, Puffy/Mase faggy pop movement (aside from a big portion of Biggie's work) It's just what I see as true to form Hip-Hop.

I just don't like the R&B/Hip-Hop mixture (in 90% of cases).

A few of Eminem's recent/future (rumored) collaborations are classic scenarios of "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should" IMO <---- (Note: This is my personal opinion and in no way relate fact)

i.e. Just because I can feed a 200lb girl 4 shots of tequila and a compliment, take her home and fuck her until she can't walk straight, doesn't mean I should.

He can do whatever he wants, he's the man with the mic. Doesn't mean I have to like it, nor does it make me immature.

[cityfan31]

He only made that song with Bruno Mars because it will help Royce be known and to promote their EP.

You do not need to highlight obvious, known things to me.

I KNOW.

That does not fucking excuse it. Putting a well known pop star on an obvious hook to make a hit is a coward's way out.

Eminem's name already has the cache, so that alone will bring Royce attention. So it's an opportunity to do something groundbreaking, not to do something expected and mainstream. Doing a song like "Lighters" is a failure of imagination and wasted opportunity.

And 'blowing Royce up' is not good enough justification for the kind of quality and tone sacrifice that the track represents on the EP.

It was also Royce's idea, so wasn't in fact Em helping Royce but it was Royce helping Royce. Quite clearly Royce just wanted to exploit the fact he was now with Em and try and create a "Love the Way You Lie" cousin track for fame.

Fame should never, ever be the goal. Fame for fame's sake is shallow. It should always be about the material, fame and money should be an upshot. So admitting you made a track to help make you more famous is not something to be proud of, or an excuse. It's pathetic.

He doesn't want fame for fame's sake, he wanted publicity because of his and Slaughterhouse's upcoming albums. People might just buy it if they recognise 'that guy off Lighters'.

Maybe all rappers should release their work anonymously to avoid any accusations that they want fame.

In any case, why is Em allowed to make comedy singles in order to get on MTV and sell records but Royce can't take advantage of this opportunity?

[EminemBase]

He only made that song with Bruno Mars because it will help Royce be known and to promote their EP.

You do not need to highlight obvious, known things to me.

I KNOW.

That does not fucking excuse it. Putting a well known pop star on an obvious hook to make a hit is a coward's way out.

Eminem's name already has the cache, so that alone will bring Royce attention. So it's an opportunity to do something groundbreaking, not to do something expected and mainstream. Doing a song like "Lighters" is a failure of imagination and wasted opportunity.

And 'blowing Royce up' is not good enough justification for the kind of quality and tone sacrifice that the track represents on the EP.

It was also Royce's idea, so wasn't in fact Em helping Royce but it was Royce helping Royce. Quite clearly Royce just wanted to exploit the fact he was now with Em and try and create a "Love the Way You Lie" cousin track for fame.

Fame should never, ever be the goal. Fame for fame's sake is shallow. It should always be about the material, fame and money should be an upshot. So admitting you made a track to help make you more famous is not something to be proud of, or an excuse. It's pathetic.

He doesn't want fame for fame's sake, he wanted publicity because of his and Slaughterhouse's upcoming albums. People might just buy it if they recognise 'that guy off Lighters'.

Maybe all rappers should release their work anonymously to avoid any accusations that they want fame.

In any case, why is Em allowed to make comedy singles in order to get on MTV and sell records but Royce can't take advantage of this opportunity?

Well then if he wants attention or for people to focus on his material, how about trying to do something groundbreaking and creating something strikingly original that DESERVES attention rather than using a lame manipulation tactic to get on radio?

So no, they shouldn't release their stuff anonymously - BEING famous is nothing to be ashamed of, when it's an upshot. But why not think bigger, and instead of going "hmm, I wish more people would listen to my stuff... I know, get Bruno Mars on a hook and do a cliche emotional track!" why not think "hmm, I wish more people would listen to my stuff... fuck this, I'm going to create something that blows people's minds".

Stop making excuses for lame moves. There's no decent defense for getting Bruno Mars on a track for the sake of making a hit. It's a shitty thing to do. And not the move of a real artist.

In regards to Em and his singles, originally it was just luck that "My Name Is" was a hit. He wasn't trying to make a hit, it just happened to catch-on and then that became the formula for him. But Eminem was still being him and compromising very little in "The Real Slim Shady" and "Without Me", even lyrically. And they were still decent rap tracks.

And they were still original and fresh, and had little concepts to them. They only seem like Em 'going through the motions' in retrospect, because he played out his own formula. But Em making comedic singles with a more melodic focus, which are still lyrically tight, have little concepts and are decent rap is nowhere near as bad as slapping Bruno Mars on a made-to-be-a-stadium-cliche-track song, for the sake of pandering to audiences that probably don't even appreciate the genre.

PS. When did I ever say it was okay for Em to do that anyway? plus it's a separate issue / artist. Trying to justify it with "yeah but, he does it too!" is ridiculous.

[Tash8]

^ plus, My Name Is, Real Slim Shady, Without Me were all more original and still sounded eminem-ish.

This Lighters track, Royce sounds nothing like other verses from him. I dont mind the track like some of you do but I understand your point of view.