441Mania Best Music Album 1996-2011 #2?

[I'mShady]

HONORABLE MENTION:
Elliott Smith - Either/Or
Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
Pavement - Brighten the Corners
Elliott Smith - XO
A Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms
The Wrens - Meadowlands
LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
Lauryn Hill- The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Weezer - The Red Album
The National - Boxer

The List So Far:
#50: Wilco - Being There (1996)
#49: Lady Gaga - The Fame (2008)
#48: Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen (1997)
#47: Jay-Z - The Black Album (2003)
#46: Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads (1996)
#45: Staind - Break the Cycle (2001)
#44: Adele - 21 (2011)
#43: Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind (1997)
#42: Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R (2000)
#41: Björk - Homogenic (1997)
#40: The Notorious B.I.G.- Life After Death
#39: Air - Moon Safari
#38: Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
#37: Outkast- Aquemini
#36: Incubus - Make Yourself
#35: At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command
#34: The White Stripes – White Blood Cells
#33: Linkin Park- Hybrid Theory
#32: Kanye West – Graduation
#31: Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
#30: Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf (2002)
#29: Linkin Park - Meteora (2003)
#28: Arcade Fire – The Suburbs (2010)
#27: Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
#26: Rob Zombie - Hellbilly Deluxe (1998)
#25: Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile (1999)
#24: Tool - Lateralus (2001)
#23: U2 - All That You Cannot Leave Behind (2000)
#22: Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape (1997)
#21: Muse - Black Holes and Revelations (2006)
#20: Rage Against the Machine - The Battle of Los Angeles (1999)
#19: LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver (2007)
#18: System of a Down – Toxicity (2001)
#17: Sublime - Sublime (1996)
#16: Beck - Odelay (1996)
#15: Neutral Milk Hotel - Aeroplane Over the Sea (1998)
#14: Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)
#13: Green Day - American Idiot (2004)
#12: Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
#11: DJ Shadow - Entroducing... (1996)
#10: Eminem - The Eminem Show (2002)
#9: Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
#8: Weezer - Pinkerton (1996)
#7: The Strokes - Is This It? (2001)
#6: Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication (1999)


#5: Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)


#4: The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)


#3: Arcade Fire - The Funeral (2004)


#2: Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)


#1: Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)




This is huge.

[VenomBlackViper]

First, who the fuck is 441Mania & why should I give 2 fucks about their opinion?

Second, good to see Staind, Muse, System Of A Down, Sublime, Rob Zombie, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Linkin Park, Incubus & Rage Against the Machine on there. Although i'm wondering why there's no KoRn, Disturbed, Godsmack, Slipknot, Evanescence or Marilyn Manson.

Oh there's rap on there too? Cool, I guess.

[JakeBlack]

raidohead's album > mmlp, mbdtf > tes

list = shit...

blueprint and no sslp.... list = shit


overall: list = shit

Blueprint is on there.

[2DreamFire]

raidohead's album > mmlp, mbdtf > tes

list = shit...

blueprint and no sslp.... list = shit


overall: list = shit

Blueprint is on there.

I think he meant how it's stupid how Blueprint is on there, but the SSLP isn't.

[Sam.]

#10: Eminem - The Eminem Show (2002)

#5: Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)


This list is shit,except for MMLP being placed aptly .

[Devil'sAdvocate]

yes like the other complained

how the fuck can MBDTF be better than TES?

wheres SSLP at?

yup,nikkaz stupid

[I'mShady]

yes like the other complained

how the fuck can MBDTF be better than TES?

wheres SSLP at?

yup,nikkaz stupid

I don't agree but look, every music critic thinks that MBDTF is Kanye's Best.
Oh and to that cunt who asked me about the website

[EminemBase]

Finally, some proper recognition for The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show.

I always see them mentioned in best-of rap albums of the past X years lists but they're always way down at like 50 or something. When... unless I've missed a musical revolution in hip hop, there are not many better recent albums in the mainstream than those two. If any.

Glad to see The Eminem Show ahead of The Blueprint too. Not to keep ragging on Jay-Z as I do go overboard on disrespecting him. He is talented and can be very good, I just find him annoying. But The Blueprint does not hold a candle to Eminem's first three.

So it annoys me when I always see it like thirty spots ahead of them. It's like... The Blueprint, bigger... more important, more innovative, more... anything than MMLP? no fucking way. The Marshall Mathers LP was the album of a generation.

Also, I like My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and am a big Kanye fan, but I think putting that album at #5 of the past 15 years is a bit over the top lmao. It's a good, great album even. I see it as a fantastic, artistic, visionary album by a true artist. But the album has duds for me and lyrically there's a lot of pointless self-indulgence and pettiness, it's not even close to the magnitude of MMLP or TES in that regard.

Critics just wank over music, much more than lyrics. Where, I agree that it needs to be a balance. Recovery proved that just good lyrics doesn't work, shit music can ruin it. But even so, MBDTF - FIFTH fucking best of the past fifteen years? no way.

On MBDTF, Kanye rapped about more imaginary racism, South Park and SNL, Amber Rose and married a porn star in a bathroom. On TES, Em addressed white America, lyrically lambasted members of Congress, pissed on the lawn of the Whitehouse, did a square dance around Bush and the War and spat genius until he collapsed. No fucking contest, TES shits on MBDTF. Lmao at critics totally over-blowing Kanye's work just due to the production. Delusional.

[Graphic]

On MBDTF, Kanye rapped about more imaginary racism, South Park and SNL, Amber Rose and married a porn star in a bathroom. On TES, Em addressed white America, lyrically lambasted members of Congress, pissed on the lawn of the Whitehouse, did a square dance around Bush and the War and spat genius until he collapsed. No fucking contest, TES shits on MBDTF. Lmao at critics totally over-blowing Kanye's work just due to the production. Delusional.

[Mr Change]

2 Linkin Park albums

[TheGentlePlayer]

mbdtf ?

[Drug.Ballad]

#10: Eminem - The Eminem Show (2002)

#5: Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)


This list is shit,except for MMLP being placed aptly .

I agree, how is MBDTF even on the list.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

mbdtf ?

My facepalm is about it being above Graduation .. It's still good though. It's one of the best rap albums musically ever released and if you asked me it's musically above every Eminem album minus The Eminem Show.

i wish you fucking die with a crocodile tail in your bum hole sucking a dipped in shit black dick.

SSLP > Me,Jesus,God,You,Kanye,The World

lyrically and musically.

you can get jesus and all the other white nikkaz who dined with him,give them the SSLP,and they aint never gon find the science of how fucking beyond earth every little effect on that motherfucker is.

[Trimss]

I loved Kanye 3 first albums and liked his two last.

But WER IZ REKOVERI DUH

[Devil'sAdvocate]

i wish you fucking die with a crocodile tail in your bum hole sucking a dipped in shit black dick.

SSLP > Me,Jesus,God,You,Kanye,The World

lyrically and musically.

you can get jesus and all the other white nikkaz who dined with him,give them the SSLP,and they aint never gon find the science of how fucking beyond earth every little effect on that motherfucker is.

If you asked me

Which means, I think it musically shits on every Eminem album minus TES .. Lyrically it isn't close

That's what I think, your opinion cause suck a dick, who gives a shit about it anyway.

stop fucking failing since you didnt have to reply when my post is in such a fucking jokey manner there is no need for your last statement.

you think i missed the "if you asked me" No i didnt,i honestly dont give a piss about it anyway,i just felt like spicing up this thread.

in other words,why do you do that shit?