I can't believe I'm saying this.

[Innovation]

SSLP, MMLP and TES are all better than Relapse in the technical sense. Granted it's a solid lyrical album but better than his first three in that area? Nah. I do agree with the beats though, it's a very well produced album.

[VinniePazienza]

In one of his BME interviews I felt like he hinted that he considered recovery pop music

[WakeUpShow]

Relapse sucked. I snapped, hit the gas...

I always thought he said "hit a bunch of black guys" right after that line.

"hit a patch of black ice"
idk if you know or not, but black ice is ice that is very hard to see on the road cuz it just looks black like the road haha.

[Berry]

''FUCK MY LAST CD, THE SHIT'S IN MY TRASH'



Sorry! I'm only jokin' Guys & Gurls!

I personally prefer Recovery over Relapse. With the 'good old' bad & good song ratio.

I only dislike one Recovery song & three on Relapse. So there we go....

[WakeUpShow]

''FUCK MY LAST CD, THE SHIT'S IN MY TRASH'



Sorry! I'm only jokin' Guys & Gurls!

I personally prefer Recovery over Relapse. With the 'good old' bad & good song ratio.

I only dislike one Recovery song & three on Relapse. So there we go....

fair enough

[Mr Change]

''FUCK MY LAST CD, THE SHIT'S IN MY TRASH'



Sorry! I'm only jokin' Guys & Gurls!

I personally prefer Recovery over Relapse. With the 'good old' bad & good song ratio.

I only dislike one Recovery song & three on Relapse. So there we go....

Yeah. I literally enjoy ALL Recovery tracks except WBD, and I even like it when i'm in the mood.

Relapse...well, that's a different story.

[Ku53v]

Either of his first 3 albums are better than relapse, you'd be fooling yourself to think otherwise
although judging by your post, im pretty sure youre just saying Relapse > Recovery, which, while still wrong, it is a debatable opinion

[Blu]

How does Relapse come close to his first three albums?

Because you touch yourself at night.

SIG'D!!

[Eazy-GFX]

How does Relapse come close to his first three albums?

Because you touch yourself at night.

There we go.

[Wreck]

Relapse was Eminem's prime and best album.

Yeah, I said it. The beats were unique, fluid and BUMPING. They had intricate instruments that you just don't hear on other albums. Dre really outdid himself on Relapse. Underground, My Mom, 3 AM, and Crack a Bottle are classic instrumentals.

The emotional songs were EMOTIONAL. Not forced or manufactured. If you don't hear the absolute raw pain in Em's voice on Beautiful and Deja Vu then you don't know pain and you don't know Em's true emotional songs. Deja Vu might just be his greatest song since the Eminem Show.

It's his rhyming prime. Hands down. The rhymes are so ridiculously intricate and fluid, it's mind-blowing. Yeah, he may use the accent to bend words a bit, but that just shows that he was looking to expand his art from the blocky sequences rappers get into.
See: 3 AM 3rd verse, SWA 2nd verse, My Mom 2nd verse, Underground entire song.

Variety: Serial Killer/Rapist, Name Dropping, Story Telling, Concepts, Emotion, Catchy, Raw. It has everything, yet it's not your typical Em album. It's refreshing.

It's what he wanted to do. Not pop because his fans cried for it. It's what he felt like doing in the booth, and you can tell because it's such an immense, artistic, beautiful final product. That's what Em is capable of doing. My mind's kind of wandering so I forgot a bunch of shit I wanted to say, but you get the jist.

From worst to best

TES 9/10
MMLP- 9/10, TES gets the tie breaker for me because of the lack of real records on MMLP
SSLP- 8/10
Recovery- 7/10
Encore, including the bonus tracks- 6.5/10
Relapse- 6/10, maybe even a little more

[Innovation]

Relapse was Eminem's prime and best album.

Yeah, I said it. The beats were unique, fluid and BUMPING. They had intricate instruments that you just don't hear on other albums. Dre really outdid himself on Relapse. Underground, My Mom, 3 AM, and Crack a Bottle are classic instrumentals.

The emotional songs were EMOTIONAL. Not forced or manufactured. If you don't hear the absolute raw pain in Em's voice on Beautiful and Deja Vu then you don't know pain and you don't know Em's true emotional songs. Deja Vu might just be his greatest song since the Eminem Show.

It's his rhyming prime. Hands down. The rhymes are so ridiculously intricate and fluid, it's mind-blowing. Yeah, he may use the accent to bend words a bit, but that just shows that he was looking to expand his art from the blocky sequences rappers get into.
See: 3 AM 3rd verse, SWA 2nd verse, My Mom 2nd verse, Underground entire song.

Variety: Serial Killer/Rapist, Name Dropping, Story Telling, Concepts, Emotion, Catchy, Raw. It has everything, yet it's not your typical Em album. It's refreshing.

It's what he wanted to do. Not pop because his fans cried for it. It's what he felt like doing in the booth, and you can tell because it's such an immense, artistic, beautiful final product. That's what Em is capable of doing. My mind's kind of wandering so I forgot a bunch of shit I wanted to say, but you get the jist.

From worst to best

TES 9/10
MMLP- 9/10, TES gets the tie breaker for me because of the lack of real records on MMLP
SSLP- 8/10
Recovery- 7/10
Encore, including the bonus tracks- 6.5/10
Relapse- 6/10, maybe even a little more

C'mon son, even with the bonus tracks Encore isn't a better album than Relapse.

[Mathers]

Relapse has better lyrics, better production (probably the best production of all em albums), great rhyming, absolutely great story-telling and imagery, the best EMOTIONAL TRACKS, yes I said it, Deja Vu, Beautiful and Careful What You Wish For >>>>> any emotional track on recovery (including GTC which I love)

I agree about Deja Vu but Lyrically GTC was better than Beautiful and definatley CWYWF which is overrated the 4th verse shits on both of these songs.

[Sam.]

How does Relapse come close to his first three albums? He was rapping in a dumb accent for most of the album.

Well maybe because listening to Eminem's new material after a long made some fans feel that way .

[RKOunion]

His first 3 albums are way ahead of Relapse in every aspect. I like Relapse though. I think it's a solid album.

[Innovation]

His first 3 albums are way ahead of Relapse in every aspect. I like Relapse though. I think it's a solid album.

I believe Relapse is the most superior album production-wise, rhyme-wise It's up there with MMLP and TES, SSLP is on a league of it's own, Story-Telling-wise and Imagery it's also way up there

it's just the appeal to masses where it's not with those 3 IMO, and if it was, it prolly wouldn't be as impressive on the other sides which are more important in hip-hop

I see no reason why Relapse shouldn't be up with those 3 albums, but hey, that's just me

I still consider TES to be ahead of SSLP rhyme wise. Don't get me wrong, SSLP's rhyming is incredible, not many rappers will ever come close to that. But the highlights on TES are better than SSLP in my opinion. The intricate rhyme schemes of Sing For The Moment, Till I Collapse, White America, Soldier etc is just outstanding. SSLP sounds more effortless but in terms of complexity, I'd give it to TES.