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New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Ethos » Oct 24th, '11, 07:20

Most of us know what the "Racist Tapes" refers to, but in case you don't google it.

During that era Eminem recorded "Yellow Brick Road" in which he clears up some things about his past as a child. Considering he was heavily using drugs during the recording of Encore, most of the content was as some would claim as "sub-par". Now that he is clean, he has had a new feel for life and has put all of his past problems aside (or so we think publicly).

So, say those tapes were actually just released now instead of back in 2003. Do you think that Em would have paid any mind to the accusations in his music and record a better song actually diving into the details of why he recorded the tracks, or do you think he would just pass it along to the side (obviously making his public statement apologizing to the African American community)?
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Elision » Oct 24th, '11, 07:22

He'd ignore it completely :coffee:
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Fa-Q » Oct 24th, '11, 11:23

Eminem is a slave owner :unsure:
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby mareble412 » Oct 24th, '11, 14:50

He would address because the media would go ape-shit over it...let's be serious there are just some people who still want to see Em fail. Now, we have Twitter, FB and the internet has grown more "powerful" so yeah, he would HAVE TO address it. But i think he wouldn't mention in a track, probably just release a statement or call into 106 & Park.
Personally, as a black person, I never saw the big deal or the problem of the tape...black rappers say the same stuff
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Oct 24th, '11, 15:39

he will scream.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Oct 24th, '11, 16:30

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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Sam. » Oct 24th, '11, 18:12

This won't become a big issue tbh.It would fall off faster than Eminem would notice and bother to think about it.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 24th, '11, 18:27

It would be a media--both traditional and social--explosion. He would have to address it, but with the way things are now, I'm not sure he would be able to play it down.

He was at the height of his fame around the time those tapes came out, there's not much debating that. If it came out that the dude raped babies, he'd still have fans back then. Things are different now. He's not quite invincible now, especially in the eyes of the public.

It would be all over the social media sites, and it would be twisted around until no one really knew what happened. #RacistWhiteBoy would be a trending topic. People would again ask for a Dislike Button, just so they could head to the Eminem Facebook page. Don't even ask what would happen to the dislike bar on his Youtube videos.

The truth is that is would take on a life of it's own in the social media realm several hours, or even days, before he would be able to adequately prepare a statement and get it distributed amongst the media outlets. In today's social media atmosphere, that would be too late for many people. The damage would be done, and his legacy would be forever tarnished.

Or maybe it wouldn't matter at all. :coffee:
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Sam. » Oct 24th, '11, 18:45

AbramIsaac wrote:It would be a media--both traditional and social--explosion. He would have to address it, but with the way things are now, I'm not sure he would be able to play it down.

He was at the height of his fame around the time those tapes came out, there's not much debating that. If it came out that the dude raped babies, he'd still have fans back then. Things are different now. He's not quite invincible now, especially in the eyes of the public.

It would be all over the social media sites, and it would be twisted around until no one really knew what happened. #RacistWhiteBoy would be a trending topic. People would again ask for a Dislike Button, just so they could head to the Eminem Facebook page. Don't even ask what would happen to the dislike bar on his Youtube videos.

The truth is that is would take on a life of it's own in the social media realm several hours, or even days, before he would be able to adequately prepare a statement and get it distributed amongst the media outlets. In today's social media atmosphere, that would be too late for many people. The damage would be done, and his legacy would be forever tarnished.

Or maybe it wouldn't matter at all. :coffee:

Racism is not that much of a big issue right now brother.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 24th, '11, 18:58

Right.

Well, you're either joking, or you're ignorant to the truth. Racism will pretty much always be a big deal, as long as there are separate races, and large differences in culture and lifestyle between those races. That's how it is in the United States anyway, I'm not sure about the rest of the world, but I can't see it being all that different.

When a celebrity as big as Eminem is accused of being racist? Holy shit, that's whole different level of media batshit. When Micheal Richards went off on those black guys in that club a few years back, it was on every news show in the nation. He wasn't even really all that famous at that point.

I'm just saying, racism is most definitely a big deal to some people. And that's especially true in the media.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Sam. » Oct 24th, '11, 19:23

AbramIsaac wrote:Right.

Well, you're either joking, or you're ignorant to the truth. Racism will pretty much always be a big deal, as long as there are separate races, and large differences in culture and lifestyle between those races. That's how it is in the United States anyway, I'm not sure about the rest of the world, but I can't see it being all that different.

When a celebrity as big as Eminem is accused of being racist? Holy shit, that's whole different level of media batshit. When Micheal Richards went off on those black guys in that club a few years back, it was on every news show in the nation. He wasn't even really all that famous at that point.

I'm just saying, racism is most definitely a big deal to some people. And that's especially true in the media.


Correct.

The things that you said in matters pertaining to Racism is right.I come from a place where you would find abundance of Religions being followed,so I'm not that ignorant to Racism.The picture of Racism is changing fast with every generation that follows.Well...let's not get into that.

Eminem is huge no doubt and way the Media is using it's power in leg pulling is evident for all the wrong reasons.But the issue(The Racist Tapes) that we have in hand is too old and doesn't hold that much of a relevancy IMO.At this point the only way this could be used against him is if he has some haters or jealous people in the Game to pull him down(This is valid in certain situations only).He does have a good Image right now because of the charity thing that he is doing,so this can be used as a defense too.

If this does happen ,the controversy that it would stir up would be some thing that he can handle.He has faced several controversies before like hating on Homosexuals ,who are human just like black community.He some what handled that situation though so I guess this wont bother him that much.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 24th, '11, 19:39

Hmmm...

You might be right. Maybe it wouldn't be that big of a deal because of the fact that he was so young when he made the tapes. I'm not sure, but it is possible.

While he doesn't hold the same amount of pull that he once had, he definitely is still a behemoth in terms of media power. So perhaps, coupled with his struggles over the past few years, he could pull through with minimal damage due to his own personal growth.

I do still think it would have been a bigger deal in terms of what regular people thought of it. I think the social media side of things would still be worse now than it was then.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Sam. » Oct 24th, '11, 20:02

Definitely age has played an IMP role in this,had he made those Tapes when he was around the age of "25-30" things aren't gonna go in his direction and what you said earlier would have occurred.
AbramIsaac wrote:When a celebrity as big as Eminem is accused of being racist? Holy shit, that's whole different level of media batshit. When Micheal Richards went off on those black guys in that club a few years back, it was on every news show in the nation. He wasn't even really all that famous at that point.


Talk about the pull that he has right now ,people like Lil Wayne the so called eye candy of the Media would be the most effected if he ever falls in such situations.
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby mdemaz » Oct 24th, '11, 20:09

I still dunno why people feel the need to try to dig up stuff from the past to use it against them in the future..It's pointless.
It's stupid and redundant to use something that happened like..What?
At 2003...15 years ago?
From a fucking teenage boy?
Who doesn't know any better?
And try to pin dirt on Em in this day and age, it's almost laughable.

I don't think Em should of apologized, he's been friends with black people all his life, so what the fuck is everyone talking about?
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Re: New Eminem & the Racist Tapes Situation

Postby Sukot » Oct 24th, '11, 23:54

mdemaz wrote:I don't think Em should of apologized, he's been friends with black people all his life, so what the fuck is everyone talking about?


To be honest, there's people out there who think being friends with black people doesn't prove you're not racist (although I think it does, surely, since you can't hate black people, and then be friends with one).

Also, about Em being more popular back then than he is now, that's definitely very true, but he was also more hated back then. A lot of people used to vocally hate him, but now the haters are either keeping more quiet, or they're liking him more. You don't really see so much hate on him now like you used to. I think he's much less controversial in general now, so people have less strong opinions on him either way. So that would be an advantage about racist tapes being leaked now compared to before, in the sense that there's less people who really hate him to make a even bigger fuss out of it.

That said, even that aside, I don't think it would get him that much criticism. Like Eminem admitted to prematurely ejaculating, for example. After he did that, I was expecting everybody to make jokes about it, and ridiculing him (as I'm sure they would've done if any other famous male on the planet said that), but I didn't see anything at all. Obviously, racism is on a different level to ejaculating early, but you know.
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