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Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Shady-Yo » Dec 17th, '11, 16:31

Fansdown, Fansup, what the fuck is this? Eminem is an artist, he can do what HE wants... They don't understand the "artist" word.
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Dec 17th, '11, 16:31

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I wanted an album so rugged nobody could touch it.
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Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby NextEpisode » Dec 17th, '11, 17:29

Shady Records.YO wrote:Fansdown, Fansup, what the fuck is this? Eminem is an artist, he can do what HE wants... They don't understand the "artist" word.


Of course, but it's also obvious that the public opinion has played a large role in the directions Em have made musically (these past couple of years). Why do you think there was such a drastic change between the "2008-2009 Eminem", and "2010-2011 Eminem"? The public's dissapointment in 2009 played a major role, one can't deny that.
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby DanWS » Dec 17th, '11, 17:55

Duno but this is a gay thread.
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Shady-Yo » Dec 17th, '11, 18:43

NextEpisode wrote:
Shady Records.YO wrote:Fansdown, Fansup, what the fuck is this? Eminem is an artist, he can do what HE wants... They don't understand the "artist" word.


Of course, but it's also obvious that the public opinion has played a large role in the directions Em have made musically (these past couple of years). Why do you think there was such a drastic change between the "2008-2009 Eminem", and "2010-2011 Eminem"? The public's dissapointment in 2009 played a major role, one can't deny that.


I wasn't dissapointed, Relapse is fuckin ill, one of the best rap albums i ever heard. Then we have Recovery, completely different sound because of this "public's dissapointment" (i still don't understand this complaining about accent, this accent was great and made the album sound even darker) and... after few listenings i liked Recovery more than previous album. What if i like both albums, is it means that i'm stan? I see that Em's developing his music and raising to higher level (many memorable lines on Recovery, great punchlines, wordplay, themes, well... voice).

I think in this way: these people from "Fansdown" movement hated the accents (i guess), beats on Relapse and of course: "nice album, really, but the worst in Em's carreer". And after the Recovery dropped they complain about "screaming" (what a bunch of idiots) and with new album: "wtf? Rihanna? Pink? Lil Wayne? OMG", suddenly Relapse is a masterpiece for them. And they can't see great advantages of this new album, they only can see list of guests, horrible beats (ah... that great Dr. Dre's beats from Relapse...), screaming, weak punchlines, love themes, LTWYL: "we have Rihanna here and disgusting beat from Alex Da Kid, so of course Em's lines MUST BE wack too, i hate this track man!"...

I know... sorry for my english :)
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Sam. » Dec 17th, '11, 19:01

DanWS wrote:Duno but this is a gay thread.

This.

#Fansdown was like stooping down below you dignity to do retarded things instead of doing it constructively(I know you did it the right)

#Fansup is like trying to match up with them ^, I mean come on. :laughing:
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby NextEpisode » Dec 17th, '11, 19:38

Shady Records.YO wrote:
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Shady Records.YO wrote:Fansdown, Fansup, what the fuck is this? Eminem is an artist, he can do what HE wants... They don't understand the "artist" word.


Of course, but it's also obvious that the public opinion has played a large role in the directions Em have made musically (these past couple of years). Why do you think there was such a drastic change between the "2008-2009 Eminem", and "2010-2011 Eminem"? The public's dissapointment in 2009 played a major role, one can't deny that.


I wasn't dissapointed, Relapse is fuckin ill, one of the best rap albums i ever heard. Then we have Recovery, completely different sound because of this "public's dissapointment" (i still don't understand this complaining about accent, this accent was great and made the album sound even darker) and... after few listenings i liked Recovery more than previous album. What if i like both albums, is it means that i'm stan? I see that Em's developing his music and raising to higher level (many memorable lines on Recovery, great punchlines, wordplay, themes, well... voice).

I think in this way: these people from "Fansdown" movement hated the accents (i guess), beats on Relapse and of course: "nice album, really, but the worst in Em's carreer". And after the Recovery dropped they complain about "screaming" (what a bunch of idiots) and with new album: "wtf? Rihanna? Pink? Lil Wayne? OMG", suddenly Relapse is a masterpiece for them. And they can't see great advantages of this new album, they only can see list of guests, horrible beats (ah... that great Dr. Dre's beats from Relapse...), screaming, weak punchlines, love themes, LTWYL: "we have Rihanna here and disgusting beat from Alex Da Kid, so of course Em's lines MUST BE wack too, i hate this track man!"...

I know... sorry for my english :)


People will always find issues to complain about. Constructive critisism is good though, and - unfortunately - I think Em getting to little of this (by his closest surroundings).

My original point, though, was basically just to point out that Em obviously is influenced by the opinion of the majority... And - some - fans have realized this (#FansDown people), and, I guess, wanted to reach out to Em in an attempt to let him know what he's doing "wrong" according to them.
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Graphic » Dec 17th, '11, 19:42

Neither!
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Re: ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown''

Postby 12characters » Dec 18th, '11, 02:11

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12characters wrote:This basically breaks down the truth to the situation. *Assuming Throw it Up is the direction that Em wants to go for his music. However 2.0 cypher Em is FAR from atrocious and I'd hate to see #FansDown ruin that.


But hey, the #FansDown movement wasn't created along with Recovery or Relapse, it was made with Throw It Up, I think they've taken enough time to valuate if the movement's needed or not. Personally, I loved the BET Cypher, but because they can't base Em's future on the latest horrible one track that is Throw It Up, they can't base it on the latest awesome, awesome one verse that is the BET Cypher. It's based on the whole post-Recovery (H:TS, Roman's Revenge, Throw It Up etc) shit. And StudioLeaks members also hated Relapse and Recovery, so I'm guessing the counted them into the mix as well.


But H:TS (11 songs, more than the amount of sinlges he's released post-recovery) weren't horrible either. In fact some were actually good. The only songs that were bad were Throw it Up and maybe one or 2 other collabs (Roman's Revenge?).

As for basing his entire career off his future work, yeah I guess you could do that. However his latest work consisted of the better material off H:TS and the BET cypher. Yes, Throw it Up was lacking in quality and honestly it should have been much better (like all of Radioactive, which still had some dope songs ma nigga) but one feature in a pool of songs like A Kiss, Welcome to Hell, Fast Lane and the BET Cypher does not justify the #FansDown movement even if Koolo and the rest of SL didn't like it. It's not like they're omniscient in determining what "good" music is.
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby The Candy Man » Dec 20th, '11, 03:00

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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Ka0t1c » Dec 20th, '11, 03:59

#Fans Dizzzown! umm... Down
oh yeah... and thanks for nothing too
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Blake » Dec 20th, '11, 04:51

fansup because shitty em> then half the shit out there today...honestly would you want your dad to rap about fucking girls killing people going to raves etc. hes at the point i think hes doin what he needs to. i think he should just focus on storytelling because thats one of his best things to do.
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Sam. » Dec 20th, '11, 20:06

Blake wrote:fansup because shitty em> then half the shit out there today...honestly would you want your dad to rap about fucking girls killing people going to raves etc. hes at the point i think hes doin what he needs to. i think he should just focus on storytelling because thats one of his best things to do.

I think his Next Album will have storytelling Songs in majority. :y:
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Re: Eminem ''#Fansup'' vs ''#Fansdown'' Twitter Movement

Postby Timekeeper » Dec 20th, '11, 21:05

I'll back whichever "movement" gets me more Eminem faster. Whether it's Koolo leaking more tracks or Eminem feeling pressured to release something.
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