The Evolution of Eminem - The Eminem Show

[EminemBase]

Eminem news is basically non-existent recently, and I've been meaning to write this for a while...

Here's a sample:

At this point in time, Eminem was unquestionably ‘the’ voice of MULTIPLE generations. He had grabbed the attention of the youth with his quick wit and originality, demanded the attention of critics and politicians with his daring provocations and dark fantasies and earned everybody else’s attention with his musical gusto. So what did he do next? he won an Oscar.

You can read the full article: here. Cheers.

[legendstatus]

Interesting, I always enjoy reading your posts. You make valuable points and also present facts to back up your points, much better than the average delusional Stan. Luckily I have time right now to read it

[dshady89]

Guys in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvAIia2RFM

keep saying Eminem is not music, that two against nature and steely dan will survive the test of time, that nothing Eminem has ever done will and that he is a mere afterthought.

I really don't even know who Steely Dan is tbh.

[Amaranthine]

Guys in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvAIia2RFM

keep saying Eminem is not music, that two against nature and steely dan will survive the test of time, that nothing Eminem has ever done will and that he is a mere afterthought.

I really don't even know who Steely Dan is tbh.

And those people are fine examples of genre haters.

[Blu]

I can't believe The Marshall Mathers LP didn't win "album of the year", such a beautifully crafted album.

[B.A.D.]

I can't believe The Marshall Mathers LP didn't win "album of the year", such a beautifully crafted album.

I dont question its greatness, but I do think it maybe was a little bit too hardcore for that time (for it to win album of the year)

[Amaranthine]

I still can't believe Recovery didn't win AOY. I mean, not only was it a great album, but it had all the commercial appeal, and an inspirational story and message to boot. It had everything going for it.

[Graphic]

Thoroughly enjoyed reading this.

[EminemBase]

I can't believe The Marshall Mathers LP didn't win "album of the year", such a beautifully crafted album.

I dont question its greatness, but I do think it maybe was a little bit too hardcore for that time (for it to win album of the year)

Yeah but nothing in that year was more important, relevant or talked about.

Musically, lyrically, conceptually, that album was THAT year's album.

Absolutely should have won.

[B.A.D.]

I can't believe The Marshall Mathers LP didn't win "album of the year", such a beautifully crafted album.

I dont question its greatness, but I do think it maybe was a little bit too hardcore for that time (for it to win album of the year)

Yeah but nothing in that year was more important, relevant or talked about.

Musically, lyrically, conceptually, that album was THAT year's album.

Absolutely should have won.

I dont really think its about importance or relevance to be honest, beacuse he was competing against brilliant albums, like Kid A from Radiohead or You're The One from Paul Simon. (those two didn't won either). But if you listen to some of them, Specially "Kid A", man, the whole album quality in regards to music, is above than the marshall mathers Lp. But still, like I said at the beggining of this paragraph, I think they judge more on other things other than that. Now, of course it couldn't be that and maybe just a whole Bias against him. But If It was up to me, I wouldn't have given it the Album Of The Year award in regards to its competition.

Although, don't get me wrong just yet, cuz I don't know exactly what is it they base their decisions on. So it might come to that as-well

[EminemBase]

I dont really think its about importance or relevance to be honest, beacuse he was competing against brilliant albums, like Kid A from Radiohead or You're The One from Paul Simon. (those two didn't won either). But if you listen to some of them, Specially "Kid A", man, the whole album quality in regards to music, is above than the marshall mathers Lp. But still, like I said at the beggining of this paragraph, I think they judge more on other things other than that. Now, of course it couldn't be that and maybe just a whole Bias against him. But If It was up to me, I wouldn't have given it the Album Of The Year award in regards to its competition.

Although, don't get me wrong just yet, cuz I don't know exactly what is it they base their decisions on. So it might come to that as-well

But you can't just broadly judge it on things like music or lyrics because...

Different genres have different aims. In rap music, the music is often the backdrop, it's a lyrical art form, the music is often there to provide a backbone...

But in say rock music, the music is a lot more prominent and it's not about sampling or creating a backdrop for a story but more-so creating original music, with instruments etc.

So, you can't judge them on the same merit for that.

So really, the only fair things to judge albums of all different kinds of genres, for 'Album of the Year' would be things such as influence, importance and I think conceptual brilliance and just overall innovation etc. can be taken into account more fairly too.

Not that I'm saying they do judge on those accounts, I don't know what they do judge on. But I think in terms of an album that year that was... being a talked-about, poured over piece of musical art that struck a chord on many levels (political, intellect, humour) and which was as much a critical as commercial success... I'm not sure any was better than it.

Again, I couldn't say X rock album is better because of the musical aspect as, a rap album is comprised of drum loops and, it's just, a different intent entirely.

[Jdubem]

Good read.. I read that and it lead to me reading all the other articles too haha

You do a good job of keeping the topic interesting to people who are already well informed stans. Some of it is opinionated and somewhat speculative however there is no shortage of reasoning to back it up.

Although I might argue that the true peak of his career was after the Eminem Show with 8 mile/Lose Yourself and the soundtrack. This was truly his biggest moment when he was able to show the entire world what he overcame and struggled with all his life to eventually become the biggest artist of our generation. It was a showcase of not just his talent and artistic ability, but of his resilience and determination. It is a truly great story for which there can be nothing, but respect for and of course the Oscars agree.

[EminemBase]

Good read.. I read that and it lead to me reading all the other articles too haha

You do a good job of keeping the topic interesting to people who are already well informed stans. Some of it is opinionated and somewhat speculative however there is no shortage of reasoning to back it up.

Although I might argue that the true peak of his career was after the Eminem Show with 8 mile/Lose Yourself and the soundtrack. This was truly his biggest moment when he was able to show the entire world what he overcame and struggled with all his life to eventually become the biggest artist of our generation. It was a showcase of not just his talent and artistic ability, but of his resilience and determination. It is a truly great story for which there can be nothing, but respect for and of course the Oscars agree.

Thanks.

And yes I meant "Lose Yourself" and 8 Mile too. I said that 'time period' was his peak. Aka The Eminem Show / 8 Mile / "Lose Yourself" = 2002.

[Jdubem]

Ok i gotcha.. im interested for your opinion on encore

[Graphic]

Ok i gotcha.. im interested for your opinion on encore

This and I'm still waiting to read about why Eminem's the greatest of all time.

Lol, wow. You're getting requests.