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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby NextEpisode » Jan 31st, '12, 17:25

aprilm wrote:most underground rappers end up staying "underground" because they aren't very good, not because they are too hardcore, or people who aren't real hip-hop don't get it, or because mainstream rappers suck, or because [insert the reason your favorite underground rapper hasn't made it big here].


You claim this like you're sure of it... Labels, in general, don't care for the actual quality of the music, what they care about is profit. Labels sign artists - in w/e genre - that (i) they see as marketable, for the buying public, and (ii) they predict will make a profit for the label.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby The Shady Virus » Jan 31st, '12, 20:22

Wayne, Rick Ross, Kanye (Post Graduation), lil b, souja boy, asap rocky, 2 chains, mac miller, tyler the creator, wiz, odd future, and most of the new cats are garbage.

The likes of J Cole, big krit, and Kendrick Lamar are the future of REAL hiphop music.

Radioactive > Trunk Music

MBDTF was absolutely awful.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby NextEpisode » Jan 31st, '12, 20:42

Menzo wrote:
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aprilm wrote:most underground rappers end up staying "underground" because they aren't very good, not because they are too hardcore, or people who aren't real hip-hop don't get it, or because mainstream rappers suck, or because [insert the reason your favorite underground rapper hasn't made it big here].


You claim this like you're sure of it... Labels, in general, don't care for the actual quality of the music, what they care about is profit. Labels sign artists - in w/e genre - that (i) they see as marketable, for the buying public, and (ii) they predict will make a profit for the label.


Well sure, but I honestly hate when underground artists rag on mainstream artists.

I mean, depending on the artist, of course. If it's a legitimate rapper from the underground to mainstream, and he gets hated on...it's just dumb. If your goal is to survive off of rap, blowing up shouldn't be frowned upon unless you sell out and water down your content.

Dunno why I said this tbh.


There are, indeed, "underground" rappers who rag on mainstream artists (for "selling out" etc...) because they're yellous of their fame & success. Most artists want to get signed, release albums, and make a living off doing so. I wasn't disputing this. I was simply pointing out what labels' intentions are when signing new artists.

Immortal Technique might be one of the exceptions, who - several times - has been offered deals with major labels. But then again, his purpose with music "goes beyond music".

It is, on the other hand, true - to a certain extent - that labels tend to interfere with artists' decisions on how to put together an album, which tracks should be (and not be) on there... What one can & cannot say on a specific track, etc... This, to make the album as attracting as possible to the public which the album is going to be marketed to.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby aprilm » Feb 1st, '12, 05:22

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aprilm wrote:most underground rappers end up staying "underground" because they aren't very good, not because they are too hardcore, or people who aren't real hip-hop don't get it, or because mainstream rappers suck, or because [insert the reason your favorite underground rapper hasn't made it big here].

WHAT?!

So Wayne > Tech N9ne, Hopsin, Lowkey, Rhyme Asylum, Copywrite, Diabolic, Immortal Technique, JMT and many more?

Hell no, and if you think underground rappers aren't good then you should literally attempt suicide!
Rhyming, delivery, flow, content, lyrics and any other aspect in rap, those dudes most likely perfected.

GTFOH fool!


I'm pretty sure the title of this thread is "your unpopular opinions on hip-hop" - so, yeah. I knew it was an unpopular opinion when I posted it. Thanks for the over-reaction, though. And for being the kind of underground rap fan I was referring to. You proved my point quite nicely.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby aprilm » Feb 1st, '12, 05:24

NextEpisode wrote:
aprilm wrote:most underground rappers end up staying "underground" because they aren't very good, not because they are too hardcore, or people who aren't real hip-hop don't get it, or because mainstream rappers suck, or because [insert the reason your favorite underground rapper hasn't made it big here].


You claim this like you're sure of it... Labels, in general, don't care for the actual quality of the music, what they care about is profit. Labels sign artists - in w/e genre - that (i) they see as marketable, for the buying public, and (ii) they predict will make a profit for the label.


I'm going to go ahead and refer to the title of this thread in my response here too - "opinions" people. This is mine. My unpopular one.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby 12characters » Feb 1st, '12, 06:01

Hmm.. :-k okay then, I'll have a go at it.

-Psiklone has more replay value for me
-Females can rap
-I listen to Elmatic more than I do Illmatic
-Eminem is still a good rapper
-I find I like to listen to a lot of the features more than I do Tech in All 6's and 7's.
-No, 2pac is not alive and not residing in a 3rd world country..
-Watch the Throne is overrated (Frank Ocean ftw doe)
-Yellow Brick Road is a dope song
-Joe Budden is the current "Best Rapper Alive"
-I've never heard Slug (not an opinion, just recommend me some Atmosphere, please :'( )
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby Solace » Feb 1st, '12, 06:02

Menzo wrote:"Can-I-Bitch" is dope.

I'm pretty sure everyone on this site in the Eminem section dickrides this song to the max when insulting Canibus or showing how amaiiiszing Eminem is at da wrap dissez.

Refer to my GOAT avatar, UNBEATABLE doe.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby Solace » Feb 1st, '12, 06:04

It is an unpopular opinion, so I thank you for being the rare that appreciate my music.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby Solace » Feb 1st, '12, 06:07

You're the sweetest :wub:

Another (I can only assume it is) unpopular opinion, Drake>Lil Wayne.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby 12characters » Feb 1st, '12, 06:08

Solace wrote:It is an unpopular opinion, so I thank you for being the rare that appreciate my music.

I'm pretty sure everyone on Canibus Central dickrides that guy to the max when insulting Eminem or showing how amaiiiszing Solace is at da trolling.

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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby Solace » Feb 1st, '12, 06:11

I don't even know what's in your avatar doe. I only assume when I see it that it's a clip from an anime.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby Ku53v » Feb 1st, '12, 06:12

My favorite punchlines are from either Eminem or Jimmy Pop from Bloodhound Gang
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby 12characters » Feb 1st, '12, 06:13

Solace wrote:I don't even know what's in your avatar doe. I only assume when I see it that it's a clip from an anime.


lol it's Budden.
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby Solace » Feb 1st, '12, 06:14

Lol what the fuck...

Okay, 'nother unpopular opinion: Joe Budden is an anime. :unsure:
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Re: Your unpopular opinions on hip-hop

Postby 12characters » Feb 1st, '12, 06:18

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