Menzo wrote:I don't think anyone from Odd Future can touch Recovery's presence. Same with Canibus' Rip The Jacker, that's my favourite Canibus album and his most enjoyable, but ehh.
Well Rip The Jacker has much, MUCH better production than Recovery, that isn't even debatable. Stoupe laced him with great production while Recovery was Eminem's worst produced album since Infinite. Lyrically, in terms of rhyming Eminem takes it, Canibus either rhymes big complicated words to make himself seem like an impressive lyricist or has basic inners and end rhymes ending in the same one syllable. In terms of lyrical content i'd give it to Canibus, i'd take his throwback to the Roman Empire shit (which for the record works great over the production) over Eminem's terrible punchlines & forced, psuedo-serious, generic emotion any day.
EARL, Bastard, Goblin & the Radical mixtape would be the only Odd Future releases i'd say are better than Recovery. Basically everyone besides Earl and Tyler is terrible from that group.
EARL is like Earl's version of the SSEP, he beats out Eminem on Recovery lyrically both rhyme scheme-wise and in terms of wittiness, he has a smooth laidback delivery as opposed to Eminem's hoarse shouting on Recovery. Ironically enough a 16 year old's content is more mature on some songs than a 30 year old's, referencing the scattered horrible punchlines on Recovery of course.
Bastard is kinda the same deal as Canibus in terms of production and not being good rhyme-wise. My favorite songs from Bastard > my favorite songs from Recovery (Assmilk/Seven > Almost Famous/Cold Wind Blows), it's a more consistent album overall, although the worst song on it, VCR/Wheels, is worse than anything on Recovery. Eminem's flow is better than Tyler's, Tyler's aggressive delivery isn't forced like Eminem's is.
AbramIsaac wrote:I'm a fan of R.A., but I don't think Die Rugged Man, Die was a very good album.
He makes impressive songs, but he just can't seem to lace together a quality album.
And I'll never understand all of the love for Earl Sweatshirt, but I haven't heard that album, so I can't really comment on it.
While Die, Rugged Man, Die isn't on par with some of his featured verses, it was still a good album. I know alot of people think it's a disappointment just because he didn't have Uncommon Valor-esque verses all throughout the album, which was made 2 years before Uncommon Valor anyways. But it was still a very solid effort, just not the classic he has the potential to make. if anything else it's still better than Recovery. Also RA is dropping an album sometime this year if you didn't already know, something to look forward to.
Earl has great multies, the same kind of crazy, serial killer, druggy content that early Eminem had and a very smooth, effortless sounding flow & delivery.
Emadyville wrote:better question: are there 25 rap albums that sold more than recovery?
i think there are but idk
I've never gave a tablespoon of a fuck about album sales, so I really couldn't answer that.
Carrying on with naming albums:
51. Demigodz - The Godz Must Be Crazy
52. Chino XL - I Told You So
53. Doap Nixon - Doap Traffiking (The Rise and Fall of Darth Nixon)
54. DZK - The Intertainer
55. Flight Distance - Bad Informaton
56. Big Pun - Capital Punishment
57. Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
58. Esham - KKKill The Fetus
59. Ice Cube - Laugh Now, Cry Later
60. Outerspace - My Brother's Keeper
61. The High & Mighty - Home Field Advantage
62. Bekay - Hunger Pains
63. Vakill - Armor Of God
64. Felt - Felt 2: A Tribute to Lisa Bonet
65. Tonedeff - Archetype
66. Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous
67. Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 2
68. The Jokerr - Mayhem Night
69. K-Rino - Annihilation Of The Evil Machine
70. King Syze - Collective Bargaining
71. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
72. Lowkey - Soundtrack to the Struggle
73. Mac Dre - Thizzelle Washington
74. Meth Mouth - American Meth
75. Sean Strange - Street Urchin
where did I name Lil B?
