Em's best Album Content/Subject Matter/Emotion wise

[Kill You]

The Eminem Show. Had better variety and was a better work of art than his other albums. At least imo.

[KingDavid]

eminem show was more classic, and it's to hard to say. both are life changing experiences - and i dont like to name favorites currently so let's just say both are equally as important!

[Aftermathers]

The Eminem Show. Had better variety and was a better work of art than his other albums. At least imo.

Recovery was great too though.

[Kill You]

The Eminem Show. Had better variety and was a better work of art than his other albums. At least imo.

Recovery was great too though.

It was, and its content had a pretty wide variety too, but against The Eminem Show...they don't compare in quality to me. I DO, however, see a lot of similarities between how the album was structured and what type of songs were featured.

[EminemBase]

The Eminem Show. Had better variety and was a better work of art than his other albums. At least imo.

Recovery was great too though.

It was, and its content had a pretty wide variety too, but against The Eminem Show...they don't compare in quality to me. I DO, however, see a lot of similarities between how the album was structured and what type of songs were featured.

Recovery is very fucking solid. I sometimes think it was underwhelming or not as great as I thought but then I listen to it straight through... and, it's fucking good. And it's even more consistent than I ever remember it - in my mind, it always seems unstructured / random, but whenever I listen start to finish... it all flows perfectly, all the songs sound right.

But, the production is what lets it down I think. I think if Eminem had produced that album, all of it, as he did with The Eminem show, and crafted more hooks, it would be a classic. Oh my god, just imagine how much better Recovery could be with Em's own beats / melodies backing those raps, and some more of his own hooks... I'm glad I heard Em over beats by other producers, but annoyed that it was with such quality material (which sounds odd to say), on a potential classic.

All in all I'd give Recovery 4/5. I'm even thinking of being a little harsher and saying 3.5/5... as I can think of so many things which could have taken its greatness to another place. But, every song is good or great, or fantastic, every fucking verse is crammed, and there are some great concepts and some superb growth (lyrical growth in literary form and attitude), so... yeah, 4.

[Amaranthine]

Well, we can all blame Denaun for telling Em to get off his musical "island" and recruit different producers.

[Kill You]

Recovery is very fucking solid. I sometimes think it was underwhelming or not as great as I thought but then I listen to it straight through... and, it's fucking good. And it's even more consistent than I ever remember it - in my mind, it always seems unstructured / random, but whenever I listen start to finish... it all flows perfectly, all the songs sound right.

But, the production is what lets it down I think. I think if Eminem had produced that album, all of it, as he did with The Eminem show, and crafted more hooks, it would be a classic. Oh my god, just imagine how much better Recovery could be with Em's own beats / melodies backing those raps, and some more of his own hooks... I'm glad I heard Em over beats by other producers, but annoyed that it was with such quality material (which sounds odd to say), on a potential classic.

Oh, I agree. I love Recovery lol. But when I pit it up against TES, it obviously isn't as good. I try not to pit his newer stuff against his older stuff though, both eras were from different points of the man's life. He's different now, not that that's really a bad thing.

When I first listened to Recovery, I didn't really find it random or unstructured like other people...the album actually flows quite well like you stated. His song choice was very spot on (though adding Fly Away and Cocaine would have greatly helped the album, I believe). He touched on a few deep subjects without overdoing it and made songs that featured his skills. It's very solid like you said. Please don't take my post like I was saying it wasn't or anything.

[EminemBase]

Well, we can all blame Denaun for telling Em to get off his musical "island" and recruit different producers.

Nah, we can blame Em truly as... Paul said Em aimed 'wider' aka mainstream with the album, and Em quite clearly worked with the 'in' / 'hot' and modern producers (Boi-1da, Just Blaze)...

And, he still chose the beats.

Either way, I'm glad of the experimentation as nothing is worse than him standing still / accepting mediocrity / sameness, but, still, disappointing.

[EminemBase]

Recovery is very fucking solid. I sometimes think it was underwhelming or not as great as I thought but then I listen to it straight through... and, it's fucking good. And it's even more consistent than I ever remember it - in my mind, it always seems unstructured / random, but whenever I listen start to finish... it all flows perfectly, all the songs sound right.

But, the production is what lets it down I think. I think if Eminem had produced that album, all of it, as he did with The Eminem show, and crafted more hooks, it would be a classic. Oh my god, just imagine how much better Recovery could be with Em's own beats / melodies backing those raps, and some more of his own hooks... I'm glad I heard Em over beats by other producers, but annoyed that it was with such quality material (which sounds odd to say), on a potential classic.

Oh, I agree. I love Recovery lol. But when I pit it up against TES, it obviously isn't as good. I try not to pit his newer stuff against his older stuff though, both eras were from different points of the man's life. He's different now, not that that's really a bad thing.

When I first listened to Recovery, I didn't really find it random or unstructured like other people...the album actually flows quite well like you stated. His song choice was very spot on (though adding Fly Away and Cocaine would have greatly helped the album, I believe). He touched on a few deep subjects without overdoing it and made songs that featured his skills. It's very solid like you said. Please don't take my post like I was saying it wasn't or anything.

Oh no I wasn't replying like you were saying it wasn't...

Just echoing the sentiment / implication that Recovery is good and, expanding a little.

[Aftermathers]

For me, Recovery gets better with more time.

You all said it perfectly.

You know the most funny thing ?


The Eminem Show and Recovery are as similar as you can get in terms of theme, substance, heavily influenced by emotion, the influence of Singing his own Hooks they are in a nut shell Eminem type Albums no Slim Shady of course if we look at specfic things like sound, production, flow etc there will be diffrences but generally you describe both Albums as Emotional getting real personal


So how can a person who likes The Eminem Show not appreciate Recovery? and miss the most obvious thing that Em said in his autobiography and numerous interviews which was Eminem/Marshall Mathers is the Deep real side of him and Slim Shady is the Alter Ego that is crazy, twisted


So the whole new Eminem vs old is silly Eminem had Emotional Introspective tracks even on his Slim Shady themed Albums


And the contradictions especially by people like name/cream are hillarious he will 1 minute praise 2pac for his Emotions but will disrespect Eminem and call him Emo in a negative way and he seems to hate the fact so many relate to Em's Personal Music.

[Amaranthine]

^Alright, one more time...what is the deal with the funky capitalization in your posts?

[Aftermathers]

^Alright, one more time...what is the deal with the funky capitalization in your posts?

Just how i like to type no particular reason really.

[OMEGA]

Recovery > Eminem Show > MMLP > Slim Shady LP > Encore > Relapse

Content-wise speaking.

[Stanforever]

Tes is my personal favorate.Mmlp is the best.Recovery is good.

Tes>
Mmlp>Sslp>Relapse or Recovery(depends on the mood)>Encore.

[slim-idiot]

The Eminem show.
Because in this album, his emotions are naturals. When he's angry (Cleanin'out my closet, Say good bye hollywood, Soldier...), when he's happy (Hailie's song), it just feels natural.

Not on Recovery, where he's forcing himself to scream in every song. And i dont feel any emotions when i listen to recovery, except in songs like Going through changes, or maybe Talkin to myself.
And the beats are too "Hip Pop".

Eminem+Jeff Bass beats are perfect in TES.