Opinions on Eminem's Underground record off of Relapse.

[XxachiganxX]

Loved it at first but quickly fell in love with others lol. Beautiful before it was popular, Stay Wide Awake. My Darling on the limited version. and lots more actually

[Mr.DGAF]

I like it, but it's not a spectacular song. Obviously the thing that makes it stick out is his voice. It's so crisp and particular on every syllable; his voice on this track is perfect. The beat, like the rest of Relapse's beats, is dope. Even the intro is sick. But that can't hid the incredible random-ness of this song. If he actually had something to say, it'd be a stand-out track. And I know, it's kinda like what he was thinking about during the drugs, explaining the random shit. But there's a reason those random thoughts never surfaced in the first place. The hook implies a story about how he was down and came back, but the verses, while good in rhyming and flow, lack the substance for me to put it over a decent amount of songs on Relapse.

[Mr. Porter]

I like 3 am, Stay Wide Awake, and Beautiful more. So I guess I put it at number 4 off Relapse.

[XxachiganxX]

Drop The Bomb On Em, I know its off Refill but still that beat is fire...

[RKOunion]

Awesome delivery.

[Emadyville]

the only thing i hated was the fact that every verse ended weak. other than that i love it, one of my favorites off of relapse and great ending track

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Don't really like this track, he just sound not natural imo.

Best song on Relapse is Déja vu, i love the chorus, and this track remind me the old Em.

what a username

[Accor]

I don't think you understand lyricism if you actually think this song is good lyrically. It's god awful.

Some of you act as if multies are the only important thing to lyricism as if they're hard to write (which they aren't), especially senseless multies like the ones used in this song. He's saying absolutely nothing (crushing my hard taco..)..

This is a pathetic display of someone going through a mid-life crisis and trying to recapture something he had 10 years ago.

Oh and here's an example of how easy multies are when you're basically talking about nothing, someone wrote this on SL.

You’re all enabling em’s habits an, he’s unable to hack it then
Plainer than a mannequin, he’s paling in comparison,
I’ll hack at the fraud, bored, the lame is just embarassin,
Laying out the packaging that all his recent tracks are in..

No baptism crucifix, you stupid pricks, still get nailed, through the wrists
Who is this?, the silent tyrant, wrists are tied it’s time for violence,
Hide a virus in my sinus while grinding on miley cyrus
Queen of pop? Kill her highness, keep the body, couldn’t find us
island hopping, stopping pilots, jacking boats, I got the mileage,
fags elope I crack there throat, a bigot, I discriminate,
stop their heart, defibrillate til arteries disintegrate
an part of me is in a state, of ecstacy, my recipe,
cut the fruit up endlessly ,a horrorcore, homophobe, I don’t condone acceptance see,
a while back I cracked a smile, dialled it down too festive, geez
the culprit no accessory, you look at me suggestively?
assess, proceed, accept my seed an say goodbye it’s best you leave
it’s the easy lane to claiming fame an this is all a statement
forcing rhyme is borderline some sorta crime, evade it
wanna turn around your worthless sound your cutting it close
When comedians perform, moon the crowd coz you’re the butt of the joke
In the mix with shit an piss, vomit, fluids, fillin lists
With fast food, takeaway, made up whores you made to pay
Make my day an take away those awful puns I hate to say
But infinite was less forced than half the shit you say today
toilet jokes? avoid it folks, annoyed there buoyed on by the host
of praise from fans, insane demand from lazy stans
who claim to stand for hating brands of mindless entertainment damn
I thought you liked impressive feats, current em at best is weak
Divest his speech like yester-week, this is my acceptance speech
For stans reformed, standin tall, find his files n press delete

[Accor]

You deleted your post so I can't quote you (pussy) but let's compare some of his older lyrics.


Yo.. I listen to your demo tape and act like I don't like it
(Aww that shit is wack!)
Six months later you hear your lyrics on my shit
(What?? That's my shit!)
People don't buy shit no more they just dub it
That's why I'm still broke and had the number one club hit (Yup, uh huh)
But they love it when you make your business public
so fuck it, I've got herpes while we on the subject (uh-huh)
And if I told you I had AIDS y'all would play it
cause you stupid motherfuckers think I'm playin when I say it
-- Well, I do take pills, don't do speed
Don't do crack (uh-uhh) don't do coke, I do smoke weed (uh-huh)
Don't do smack, I do do shrooms, do drink beer (yup)
I just wanna make a few things clear
My baby mama's not dead (uh-uhh) she's still alive and bitchin (yup)
And I don't have herpes, my dick's just itchin
It's not syphilis, and as for being AIDS infested
I don't know yet, I'm too scared to get tested

is a perfect example of lyricism on the SSLP. He isn't relying on senseless multies to make people think he's a talented rapper (like he did on Underground and Stay Wide Awake) he's using his incredible wittiness and sprinkling multies here and there to add to the verses without deteriorating from what he's trying to say (although this example is just him rapping to rap, it's far different from Underground).

I'll show you a GOOD use of rhyme schemes and multies that Eminem used on Say Goodbye to Hollywood.

"Imagine goin' from bein' a no one to seein',
everything blow up and all you did was just grow
up emceeing
It's fuckin' crazy"

The multies here only add to the brilliance of what he just said. It is SO much different from saying this:
Insanity, can it be vanity, where is the humanity
And having a twisted fantasy with an arm and leg amputy
Straight jacket with a hundred eight brackets
With a strap that wraps twice around my back then they latch it
Cut your fucking head off and ask you where your headed off to,
Get it headed off to (haha)
Medic this headache's awful
this anesthetic is pathetic so is this diabetic waffle
And this prosthetic arm keeps crushing my hard taco

Oh and Deja Vu is one of the best songs he's ever written but it doesn't have much multies.

[Accor]

Sorry I hurt your feelings brah but why don't you try contributing to the argument instead of avoiding everything and changing the subject.

[Accor]

Sorry I hurt your feelings brah but why don't you try contributing to the argument instead of avoiding everything and changing the subject.

Okay. At least you're being the bigger man.

Eminem said that he wanted to use Underground as a chance to get back to the Hip Hop Shop days.

What do you think he did in those days? He just wanted to straight spit, he didn't focus on saying anything specific on Underground. Same goes for songs like "On Fire".

I'm not gonna go as in depth as you because it's quite late and I'm getting sorta drowsy and lazy.

I realize that, I'm just saying that he failed miserably, same goes for On Fire. The difference between then and now is that he used to be witty. He can rhyme all he wants but the wittiness and pure genius of some of the lines he used to use is what saved the track from just being rhymes.

Nowadays when he tries to return to his roots he ends up screaming corny punchlines about dicks and rhyming about nothing. I'm not trying to hate on anyone here but it seems pretty obvious to me that this song was him trying his hardest to be something he isn't any more. Songs like Deja Vu are what he should be focusing on, still don't know how he managed to pull that masterpiece off while recording the disaster that is relapse.

[Accor]

I have nothing more to say except...yep, you're one of the peasants who lurks at SL.


I'm not sure if that's really an insult to you people or not, I'm again just too tired and unfocused to contribute to the argument and I'm just resorting to childish, inneffective insults that will probably get me a point or two for spam or some shit. Maybe tomorrow. The only reason I'm responding is because there's this thing about me that I always feel like I need to have the last word.

I don't really understand this post.. Yes I post on SL but I literally think %60 of the posters there are idiots, and not for the reasons you guys do (because a lot of people don't like Marshal... lol..). And no not everyone calls people peasants, that's just stupid.

If you aren't going to contribute to the debate then don't bother responding. I'm not insulting your intelligence nor am I resorting to name calling, I'm just trying to find why rhyming just to rhyme is appealing to you people. Is it because Eminem is doing it? I mean I highly doubt anyone here listens to Joe Budden or Lupe Fiasco so you only really know one side of lyricism.

[Accor]

I have nothing more to say except...yep, you're one of the peasants who lurks at SL.


I'm not sure if that's really an insult to you people or not, I'm again just too tired and unfocused to contribute to the argument and I'm just resorting to childish, inneffective insults that will probably get me a point or two for spam or some shit. Maybe tomorrow. The only reason I'm responding is because there's this thing about me that I always feel like I need to have the last word.

I don't really understand this post.. Yes I post on SL but I literally think %60 of the posters there are idiots, and not for the reasons you guys do (because a lot of people don't like Marshal... lol..). And no not everyone calls people peasants, that's just stupid.

If you aren't going to contribute to the debate then don't bother responding. I'm not insulting your intelligence nor am I resorting to name calling, I'm just trying to find why rhyming just to rhyme is appealing to you people. Is it because Eminem is doing it? I mean I highly doubt anyone here listens to Joe Budden or Lupe Fiasco so you only really know one side of lyricism.

Dude, everyone here listens to Joe Budden.

I'm not talking about his work with SLAUGHTERHOUSEEEEEEEEE.

Oh and Deja Vu is one of the best songs he's ever written but it doesn't have much multies.

Are we listening to the same song? There's a multi in nearly every single line.

Should have made my post a bit more clear. He isn't using multies the same way he's using them on Underground, he's using them correctly. They don't sound forced or anything and they aren't overused. He definitely uses multies in that song, but he doesn't use them JUST to use them.

[Accor]

I'm not talking about his work with SLAUGHTERHOUSEEEEEEEEE.

Still...everyone here listens to Joey. Like solo shit and everyone.

Kind of surprised that people listen to Joey and still consider Eminem the best alive in 2012.

[Accor]

Plenty don't. I do because I enjoy Em's delivery more. But that's a personal thing, you can't yell at someone for that, as much as I'd like to yell at people who call Lil Wayne the best in 2012.

Well you could put up an argument since you're only relying on delivery and not lyricism, but yes I suppose is it all opinions at the end of the day. People who call Lil Wayne the best are usually casual hip hop listeners who just want club music, most people don't comment on his lyricism so it's kind of different.

I'd also say Joe Budden and Eminem's deliveries are on the same level in 2012, Joe's doesn't usually change and it's monotone but Eminem usually just screams. It'd be a different story in 2002 though.

Strictly from a lyrical standpoint though I'd say it's no contest between Em and Joe. I mean, compare Black Cloud to anything Em has released in the last couple of years.