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Is it time for another album?

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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby EminemBase » May 2nd, '12, 20:22

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Still wish he'd release a 5-song EP or something small every year that he doesn't release an album or something...just to keep his buzz.


I think being a recluse keeps a bigger buzz.

It makes any appearance or official release from him more of an event, more special, more talked about (as it's less typical / a surprise) and worth more.

(the concept of scarcity is what gives things a perceptive value. Diamonds aren't rare, but they're made rare by management, which is what gives them the value. Common / easily obtainable things are not valuable. Em and his team treat his image and material like diamonds, hence why his name, image and material still carries so much weight to this day.)

I believe his and Paul's management of his image and 'mystique' and the relative rarity of his music in such a saturated world is part of the reason he still sells what he does, and why such hype and talk precedes every album, feature or every sniffle.

But it shouldn't be about keeping a buzz anyway. It should be about making quality art, if and when the inspiration permits. Doing music for the sake of it results in Encore.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby _Hawk_ » May 2nd, '12, 20:59

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InsaneTRex94 wrote:Still wish he'd release a 5-song EP or something small every year that he doesn't release an album or something...just to keep his buzz.


I think being a recluse keeps a bigger buzz.

It makes any appearance or official release from him more of an event, more special, more talked about (as it's less typical / a surprise) and worth more.

(the concept of scarcity is what gives things a perceptive value. Diamonds aren't rare, but they're made rare by management, which is what gives them the value. Common / easily obtainable things are not valuable. Em and his team treat his image and material like diamonds, hence why his name, image and material still carries so much weight to this day.)

I believe his and Paul's management of his image and 'mystique' and the relative rarity of his music in such a saturated world is part of the reason he still sells what he does, and why such hype and talk precedes every album, feature or every sniffle.

But it shouldn't be about keeping a buzz anyway. It should be about making quality art, if and when the inspiration permits. Doing music for the sake of it results in Encore.


'Diamonds are made rare by their management which gives them value'. I think it's more the nature of the diamond, being an allotrope of carbon, it has superlative physical qualities: it's extremely hard and relatively unreactive. Put simply, if a diamond wasn't a diamond it wouldn't be so valuable, in the similar way that Gold's properties elevate it above other elements. It's the diamond that causes the management systems to surround it, not the other way around.

Yes his work is treated like something precious, but for this reason anything he releases is scrutinised to ridiculous lengths. If it takes so long to put something out, it has to be perfect. And when it isn't it does a lot more damage than a mini EP full of good songs would do.

Em would do a lot better for himself keeping his fans in the loop on his music. Rewind back to the early 2000's, and he was jumping on mixtapes and releases. Yet the quality never really dropped. I'd say the sheer quantity of what he put out undermined the way in which it was viewed at the time, but I would be happy to argue that a feature like What The Beat is better than any feature he's been on post-comeback. And that track was most likely composed and finished in a very short space of time (he can't even remember doing it).

At the moment Em is always in the studio working, yet has this changed? He has the material to release about three albums, so at the moment any album release is purely reliant on his opinions as an artist. And he is an artist, so he will only want to release something when he sees a series of work that comes together beautifully.
But releasing music for the sake of it isn't always going to result in Encore. As I said above, this work-schedule was very much the nature of his opening years in the public eye. Drugs and music for the sake of it = Encore.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby kiki » May 2nd, '12, 21:17

Hopsinshadie wrote:What's the hold up?


This might be news to you, but not every artist is forced to put out albums as frequently as Rihanna.

The only one who decided whether it's time for a new album is Em.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Hopsinshadie » May 3rd, '12, 15:12

bigray wrote:I am sure he has recorded new material for a new album!



I was so excited and curious for Relapse. Then I was so excited and curious for Recovery. Now I am very curious and I hope there is an album coming. You always keep wondering what he's going to do next. He keeps trying to surprise us.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby mdemaz » May 3rd, '12, 15:14

I'm really pumped for the next album, but I'm not expecting something really awesome, I just want something that has replay value and also sounds good too.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Hopsinshadie » May 3rd, '12, 15:23

mdemaz wrote:I'm really pumped for the next album, but I'm not expecting something really awesome, I just want something that has replay value and also sounds good too.



Me too. That is why I want him to rap with lots of pop stars. Not something real awesome in terms of classic shady, but something that has replay value. If he made a hit with Gaga, it would last for years and years.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Kill You » May 3rd, '12, 15:43

No no no no NO! No Gaga!
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby ImHungry » May 3rd, '12, 15:47

Hage wrote:I'm guessing just before Christmas.



He is doing a Christmas album ft. Bieber, Swift, and Spears. It's gonna be epic.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby mdemaz » May 3rd, '12, 17:29

Hopsinshadie wrote:
mdemaz wrote:I'm really pumped for the next album, but I'm not expecting something really awesome, I just want something that has replay value and also sounds good too.



Me too. That is why I want him to rap with lots of pop stars. Not something real awesome in terms of classic shady, but something that has replay value. If he made a hit with Gaga, it would last for years and years.

How does Gaga sound good though? :unsure:

I want something like he did on Hell, but with better quality and more tracks.
Some features with other rappers might help.
I wanna see Obie jump on a track or something.

No, I'm not begging for the old Eminem to come back, that's idiotic, but it would be nice to see some old elements return, Recovery just looked like a random collection of tracks.

The next album should have some freeverses and skits, maybe even a INTRO AND OUTRO.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby mdemaz » May 3rd, '12, 17:32

Yeah, that.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » May 3rd, '12, 18:49

even though i feel depressed about some of Marsh's recent releases,my inner stan hopes and think his next will be a tremendous one! so shake up Em!
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Mathers » May 3rd, '12, 20:57

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Before I joined this forum I thought I was the only one who felt happy when he did that on songs like "Hell Breaks Loose" and "So Bad".

I'm definatley happy with So Bad.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Emadyville » May 3rd, '12, 22:50

Menzo wrote:Been bumping "Hell Breaks Loose" a lot recently, same with "Drop The Bomb On 'Em". He does "chika" on the hook of the latter.


both are dopes tracks, really love his flow on both of them
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby Amaranthine » May 3rd, '12, 22:54

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Menzo wrote:Been bumping "Hell Breaks Loose" a lot recently, same with "Drop The Bomb On 'Em". He does "chika" on the hook of the latter.


both are dopes tracks, really love his flow on both of them

Drop The Bomb On 'Em is hypnotizing.
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Re: Is it time for another album?

Postby UofLCard » May 3rd, '12, 22:56

I could never get into those two, but I do like HBL's beat.
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