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In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Kill You » May 8th, '12, 01:41

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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Aftermathers » May 8th, '12, 01:48

Stanforever wrote:
Aftermathers wrote:I think true Eminem fans love it and have loved it from the day it came out and also even those who may not be big Eminem fans love it for the Message, Deep meaning in the Lyrics people who may not be a big Em fans that the Album helped dealing with their trails and tribulations.

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Well it's a succesful Album majority of Eminem fans love the Album, a lotta people relate to it, critics praised it won a few grammys.


The only people that dont like it seem to be online really. It's about taste i love the Album but others may not it comes down to what kinda Music you like. I listen to Eminem for the same reason i listen to 2pac but diffrence is Em's Lyrics, struggles connect with me more and i feel he is better at putting his Emotions across than 2pac but others may not like that kinda Music.



But it's a very much loved Album it wouldn't have sold as many records as it did if people didn't like it alot.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Mr.DGAF » May 8th, '12, 01:55

Aftermathers wrote:The only people that dont like it seem to be online really...


Well, to begin with, these online people do exist off of the computer, so I imagine if a person dislike's Recovery on the internetz, they probably also dislike it away from their computer.

That being said, I like the album. It was the album that introduced me to Eminem. I heard Going Through Changes randomly and was hooked. So it holds a sentimental place in my heart, but I can admit it has it's flaws. I think this album will be percieved by the masses as a modern day classic, however.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby slimfan94 » May 8th, '12, 03:22

Aftermathers wrote:I think true Eminem fans love it and have loved it from the day it came out and also even those who may not be big Eminem fans love it for the Message, Deep meaning in the Lyrics people who may not be a big Em fans that the Album helped dealing with their trails and tribulations.


Same with The Eminem Show just for the Substance, Emotion, Depth, Deepness and overall connection of these records on these Albums that actually inspire people who going through pain these Albums by majority peoples standards for good Music will be classic and memorable.


There is no such thing as a true fan you moron. There are fans. People who like the SSLP or Relapse are no less of a fan than those who like TES or recovery.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Aftermathers » May 8th, '12, 03:43

slimfan94 wrote:
Aftermathers wrote:I think true Eminem fans love it and have loved it from the day it came out and also even those who may not be big Eminem fans love it for the Message, Deep meaning in the Lyrics people who may not be a big Em fans that the Album helped dealing with their trails and tribulations.


Same with The Eminem Show just for the Substance, Emotion, Depth, Deepness and overall connection of these records on these Albums that actually inspire people who going through pain these Albums by majority peoples standards for good Music will be classic and memorable.


There is no such thing as a true fan you moron. There are fans. People who like the SSLP or Relapse are no less of a fan than those who like TES or recovery.



When i say true it's in the sense that ask most people why they love Recovery and so many will say because they connected with the Music, what is being said in the Lyrics it helped them through bad times and so on so in the sense that it's deeper than just entertainment. These fans are gonna appreciate Music that helps them in a bad space or struggle in their life. Like someone else pointed out it's a sentiminenal thing where the Music is powerful enough on Recovery to help people.




Those that like SSLP and Relapse are fans not fake they fans of a product but why do they like those Albums for entertainment.
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Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Aftermathers » May 8th, '12, 03:45

Mr.DGAF wrote:
Aftermathers wrote:The only people that dont like it seem to be online really...


Well, to begin with, these online people do exist off of the computer, so I imagine if a person dislike's Recovery on the internetz, they probably also dislike it away from their computer.

That being said, I like the album. It was the album that introduced me to Eminem. I heard Going Through Changes randomly and was hooked. So it holds a sentimental place in my heart, but I can admit it has it's flaws. I think this album will be percieved by the masses as a modern day classic, however.



Agreed compltley listening to that Song and most the Album i felt the same it got me hooked. The Flaws of the Album is the Production that is the flaw. I honestly think it's a classic based on i can play it from start to finish skipping no Song at all.
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Emadyville » May 8th, '12, 04:00

Menzo wrote:Who knows? 2 years since its release and I still love it...maybe more.


Agreed.


To me it may very well be a classic, but I'm not the only one to make judgments on albums so I guess it depends what the majority says.

I think hardcore em fans will love it, a few will say he sold out.

Big em fans will love it for what it was, even less may say he sold out.

Casual em fans will love his singles and prolly love the album.


For me, it was a borderline classic. It sold well, has 2 #1 singles, and had great tracks. It seemed random for an em album but the songs themselves individually were dope, a handful being amazing, so for me I'd sway towards classic.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Jdubem » May 8th, '12, 05:47

Aftermathers wrote:
slimfan94 wrote:
Aftermathers wrote:I think true Eminem fans love it and have loved it from the day it came out and also even those who may not be big Eminem fans love it for the Message, Deep meaning in the Lyrics people who may not be a big Em fans that the Album helped dealing with their trails and tribulations.


Same with The Eminem Show just for the Substance, Emotion, Depth, Deepness and overall connection of these records on these Albums that actually inspire people who going through pain these Albums by majority peoples standards for good Music will be classic and memorable.


There is no such thing as a true fan you moron. There are fans. People who like the SSLP or Relapse are no less of a fan than those who like TES or recovery.



When i say true it's in the sense that ask most people why they love Recovery and so many will say because they connected with the Music, what is being said in the Lyrics it helped them through bad times and so on so in the sense that it's deeper than just entertainment. These fans are gonna appreciate Music that helps them in a bad space or struggle in their life. Like someone else pointed out it's a sentiminenal thing where the Music is powerful enough on Recovery to help people.


Those that like SSLP and Relapse are fans not fake they fans of a product but why do they like those Albums for entertainment.

Ive been over this with you before. There are many songs off of SSLP that people can connect with. You act like its just an album of shock lyrics with no real meaning behind it. That can not be further from the truth. Just because a lot of the lyrics are funny doesnt mean its just entertainment with no real point to it. Im guessing you write songs off that way like brain damage, guilty conscience, my name is, and still dont give a fuck. Shit as the world turns, im shady, role model, just dont give a fuck are like that too. Those songs all have serious points to them. The real meanings are just not as overt as they lie underneathe the sarcasm and humor, but they are definitely still there.

I'll take the lyrical subtance and relatability of the SSLP over that of Recovery anyday which has songs that are completely lacking in that category and some which try to, but feel more forced than they do real. The SSLP is deeper, more creative and 100x more memorable.

Oh yeah and recovery will be looked at as a great hip hop album for the time it came out in. Maybe you could give it the name modern classic because of that, but for eminem that is a backhanded complement at best. The album and singles may have been a giant commercial success when it came out, but that is mostly because of the enormous name he had already built himself. Its already selling less copies a week than the eminem show is now. In 5 years it will be largely forgotten.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby UofLCard » May 8th, '12, 06:52

Eedee wrote:Couple more years that shit'll be illmatic.


Hopefully, eight years later he'll still be at it.

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You're sadly missing out on quite a good song. :coffee: You know, fo you being a member of an Eminem fan forum, I don't think I've seen you yet post something positive about Eminem or his music.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby ImHungry » May 8th, '12, 07:04

UofLCardFan08 wrote:You know, fo you being a member of an Eminem fan forum, I don't think I've seen you yet post something positive about Eminem or his music.


Visually impaired are you? :shadywink:
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby UofLCard » May 8th, '12, 07:07

ImHungry wrote:
UofLCardFan08 wrote:You know, fo you being a member of an Eminem fan forum, I don't think I've seen you yet post something positive about Eminem or his music.


Visually impaired are you? :shadywink:


Why, yes. :drunksigning:
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby adeem » May 8th, '12, 08:38

Nobody is going to give a shit in 5 years. The production is fucking horrible.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Mathers » May 8th, '12, 16:12

The real question is will Recovery be appreciated more when his next album is released like Relapse.
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Emadyville » May 8th, '12, 16:16

Mathers wrote:The real question is will Recovery be appreciated more when his next album is released like Relapse.


depends on a lot of things.

I think when encore dropped it actually made people question his other albums, whether it changed peoples minds or not i'm not sure. it could have made them look worse, or better as well.

we'll see if he drops a classic
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Re: In 5 years how will Recovery be looked upon?

Postby Jdubem » May 8th, '12, 17:20

^ I wouldnt bet on it. Face it since his comeback he hasnt shown to be consistent and jaw-dropping enough with his music to be able to reach classic status over the course of a whole album. The stuff that hes released since his comeback has overall been good-great not classic. I feel like you could say that about relapse, recovery, and hell the sequel. Keeping in mind im a big eminem fan so not all hip hop fans are going to see it that way, but I do feel like Im being pretty realistic. I am also ignoring some of his features which a few have been great, but more have been mediocre since his comeback. Since were talking about an album though those are really what we should compare them too as that is obviously where he is going to make the most effort, but back in the day it didnt matter. All of his features kicked ass.

For his next album I woud take something solid like recovery which will sell amazing and everyone will like for awhile as it will continue to establish himself as a major force in the rap game even now at his age which is not at all easy. People will be impressed, it will add to his overall reputation, and call more attention to the work he did during his prime which was truly untouchable. Id love for him to prove me wrong and come out with something like that, but it seems to me that right now em is just an above average rapper with a ridiculous amount of notoriety. His reign of true amazement and consistent brilliance with his music is over.
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