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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Sukot » May 9th, '12, 00:06

Aftermathers wrote:
Sukot wrote:This might not be a politically correct thing to say, but I think another factor in this is that maybe it's probably part of human nature (for some people) to maybe feel more attached to an artist of the same race or skin colour as them, which I think is part of the reason why Eminem's fanbase contains a higher proportion of white people than most black rapper's fanbases do.

I'm mixed race though, so I don't know really lol.



That makes perfect sense but then why can't people just keep it real and admit that why not simply be honest and say 'yeah i realize Em makes mostly Music about his life experiences, gets Deep, gets Personal Raps about a lotta the same issues my fave Rappers do things i myself been through but i just can connect more and appreciate it more from an Artist doing that kinda Music that is my own race and my own backround'


As simple as that no 1 would be mad or hold it againist them.


I think it's just a subconcious thing for most people. Like my mum is black, and usually she's always really bubbly and friendly whenever she meets another black person, even if she's never met them before. My mum obviously isn't racist though, since she's married a white guy!! But I notice her so often act more positively when she meets black people. So I think people might be like that with musical artists aswell.

I've experienced it a lot aswell. As I said, I'm mixed race, but I look quite white, so most people assume I am. Very often when people find out I'm half black, I noticed black guys suddenly start talking to me and trying to be friends with me. Again, I don't think they're being properly racist though. People are probably just naturally more attracted to others who they share more things in common with.
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby lakewaking » May 9th, '12, 00:10

i posted this in the other thread, but ima post it here since that thread went down the shitter, this is just my opinion so dont take it as fact..im not an expert or anything

saying that blacks dont respect em is false and im pretty sure they know hes a hella of an mc. i dont think blacks really relate to his music much. a lot of blacks or even mexicans in the hood grow up in broken homes and a mom is all they have, em had a bad relationship with his mom and dissed her in some tracks. im not dissin em cuz hes just telling his life story but i dont think most blacks really connect with his subject matter like most whites do.

ive never heard my black friends talk about em or anything and the same can be said about my white friends about Pac, they dont like Pac for the most part cuz he was always rapping about the hood or the struggle for black ppl.. im from a broken home and i hated the songs that em dissed his mom in, cuz i owe my mom errthing thats why i relate to Pac so much cuz i grew up poor as fuck in a broken home

ems is easily one of the greatest ever.. his accomplishments prove that
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Aftermathers » May 9th, '12, 00:11

Sukot wrote:
Aftermathers wrote:
Sukot wrote:This might not be a politically correct thing to say, but I think another factor in this is that maybe it's probably part of human nature (for some people) to maybe feel more attached to an artist of the same race or skin colour as them, which I think is part of the reason why Eminem's fanbase contains a higher proportion of white people than most black rapper's fanbases do.

I'm mixed race though, so I don't know really lol.



That makes perfect sense but then why can't people just keep it real and admit that why not simply be honest and say 'yeah i realize Em makes mostly Music about his life experiences, gets Deep, gets Personal Raps about a lotta the same issues my fave Rappers do things i myself been through but i just can connect more and appreciate it more from an Artist doing that kinda Music that is my own race and my own backround'


As simple as that no 1 would be mad or hold it againist them.


I think it's just a subconcious thing for most people. Like my mum is black, and usually she's always really bubbly and friendly whenever she meets another black person, even if she's never met them before. My mum obviously isn't racist though, since she's married a white guy!! But I notice her so often act more positively when she meets black people. So I think people might be like that with musical artists aswell.

I've experienced it a lot aswell. As I said, I'm mixed race, but I look quite white, so most people assume I am. Very often when people find out I'm half black, I noticed black guys suddenly start talking to me and trying to be friends with me. Again, I don't think they're being properly racist though. People are probably just naturally more attracted to others who they share more things in common with.




I get what you saying but it still is no excuse cos Eminem shared so much in common with black Rappers who grew up in his type of poor, harsh enviroment.
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Aftermathers » May 9th, '12, 00:15

lakewaking wrote:i posted this in the other thread, but ima post it here since that thread went down the shitter, this is just my opinion so dont take it as fact..im not an expert or anything

saying that blacks dont respect em is false and im pretty sure they know hes a hella of an mc. i dont think blacks really relate to his music much. a lot of blacks or even mexicans in the hood grow up in broken homes and a mom is all they have, em had a bad relationship with his mom and dissed her in some tracks. im not dissin em cuz hes just telling his life story but i dont think most blacks really connect with his subject matter like most whites do.

ive never heard my black friends talk about em or anything and the same can be said about my white friends about Pac, they dont like Pac for the most part cuz he was always rapping about the hood or the struggle for black ppl.. im from a broken home and i hated the songs that em dissed his mom in, cuz i owe my mom errthing thats why i relate to Pac so much cuz i grew up poor as fuck in a broken home

ems is easily one of the greatest ever.. his accomplishments prove that




How many Songs Em made about his mother? 2 Songs Cleaning Out My Closet and My Mom 2 Songs outta a 200 plus Song catalouge of Music


How can blacks in the hood relate to Rappers that Rap about exactly what Eminem does growing up in the hood, growing up in a single parent home, growing up in a welfare home, being a parent etc


All those Subjects Em made Music about
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby slimsoxshady » May 9th, '12, 00:52

"for those blacks..." :facepalm
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Man1x » May 9th, '12, 00:52

These arguments are pointless, black people I know love Eminem and place him as number 1 along with me. No, I didn't read this thread at all and only portions of the other one. I think it's retarded that you take the most retarded minority of a community and said it represents the community as a whole though, that's what it seemed like you all did in the first thread. Point is a lot of black people like Eminem, these two threads are retarded as fuck, and we should just lock these. I mean, if you took the retard minority of the white community you could get the same results but there would be no complaints. Anyway, white people tend to hate Eminem more than black people. Case closed and /thread

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Edit: By the way, when you say "for those blacks" you sound like Donald Trump.
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Man1x » May 9th, '12, 01:55

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Man1x wrote:These arguments are pointless, black people I know love Eminem and place him as number 1 along with me. No, I didn't read this thread at all and only portions of the other one. I think it's retarded that you take the most retarded minority of a community and said it represents the community as a whole though, that's what it seemed like you all did in the first thread. Point is a lot of black people like Eminem, these two threads are retarded as fuck, and we should just lock these. I mean, if you took the retard minority of the white community you could get the same results but there would be no complaints. Anyway, white people tend to hate Eminem more than black people. Case closed and /thread

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What about Arabs? What do they think of Marshall?


I heard that the U.S. government uses Kim to torture them, so i don't know. Eminem might be the last thing they hear before they die. (Terrorist, not Arabs in general. I have lots of Arab friends and they are night people except for the fact I can't eat my damn bacon in their house).
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Jdubem » May 9th, '12, 02:35

Man1x wrote:These arguments are pointless, black people I know love Eminem and place him as number 1 along with me. No, I didn't read this thread at all and only portions of the other one. I think it's retarded that you take the most retarded minority of a community and said it represents the community as a whole though, that's what it seemed like you all did in the first thread. Point is a lot of black people like Eminem, these two threads are retarded as fuck, and we should just lock these. I mean, if you took the retard minority of the white community you could get the same results but there would be no complaints. Anyway, white people tend to hate Eminem more than black people. Case closed and /thread

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Edit: By the way, when you say "for those blacks" you sound like Donald Trump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBl0-24LGE

Your actually being somewhat racist towards arabs by using the term "jihad" in that way because it doesnt really mean that. The terrorists just adopted the word to mean that for them, but it means something completely different for the vast majority of muslims.
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Man1x » May 9th, '12, 02:46

Jdubem wrote:
Man1x wrote:These arguments are pointless, black people I know love Eminem and place him as number 1 along with me. No, I didn't read this thread at all and only portions of the other one. I think it's retarded that you take the most retarded minority of a community and said it represents the community as a whole though, that's what it seemed like you all did in the first thread. Point is a lot of black people like Eminem, these two threads are retarded as fuck, and we should just lock these. I mean, if you took the retard minority of the white community you could get the same results but there would be no complaints. Anyway, white people tend to hate Eminem more than black people. Case closed and /thread

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Edit: By the way, when you say "for those blacks" you sound like Donald Trump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBl0-24LGE

Your actually being somewhat racist towards arabs by using the term "jihad" in that way because it doesnt really mean that. The terrorists just adopted the word to mean that for them, but it means something completely different for the vast majority of muslims.


I never implied Muslim, jihad is an islamic term but it can be used to describe any fight for beliefs or, as its original definition, "Any duty done on the account of your religious beliefs," which when the word was created related to the Islamic religion. At least in my community anyway, I never had a Muslim complain about it but I'm sorry if it offends anyone. I just look at it as a Christian person wouldn't consider a Crusade racists (half of them don't even know what that is) if I replaced crusade with jihad in the sentence. Never once did I say Muslims were going to do terrorist shit to black people.
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Jdubem » May 9th, '12, 03:00

Man1x wrote:
Jdubem wrote:
Man1x wrote:These arguments are pointless, black people I know love Eminem and place him as number 1 along with me. No, I didn't read this thread at all and only portions of the other one. I think it's retarded that you take the most retarded minority of a community and said it represents the community as a whole though, that's what it seemed like you all did in the first thread. Point is a lot of black people like Eminem, these two threads are retarded as fuck, and we should just lock these. I mean, if you took the retard minority of the white community you could get the same results but there would be no complaints. Anyway, white people tend to hate Eminem more than black people. Case closed and /thread

Inb4jihadonblackpeoplebecauseasmallpercentoftemdoesn'tagreewithyouropinion

Edit: By the way, when you say "for those blacks" you sound like Donald Trump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBl0-24LGE

Your actually being somewhat racist towards arabs by using the term "jihad" in that way because it doesnt really mean that. The terrorists just adopted the word to mean that for them, but it means something completely different for the vast majority of muslims.


I never implied Muslim, jihad is an islamic term but it can be used to describe any fight for beliefs. At least in my community anyway, I never had a Muslim complain about it but I'm sorry if it offends anyone. I just look at it as a Christian person wouldn't consider a Crusade racists (half of them don't even know what that is) if I replaced crusade with jihad in the sentence.

haha i didnt really mean anything by it. I just saw that you started talking about arabs or something after that so I thought id point it out. Jihad is definitely commonly used that way now, but that is only since 9/11 when terrorism became a huge issue. Some terrorists starting using it to mean a literal "fight" against other people in the name of islam and the word became popularized in the west to mean that. Before the terrorists hijacked (no pun intended) the term most muslims then and even now see it as meaning more of a spiritual or religious struggle with one's self not against other people. But im sure most realize it is also frequently misunderstood now and so accept its current usage. Just thought id let you know what a muslim friend once informed me.
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Man1x » May 9th, '12, 03:02

Someone else brought up Muslims, I just used an Islamic term. I get you though ^
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Aftermathers » May 9th, '12, 03:31

Correct me if i'm wrong here or anyone that is black here can answer this


In general black Hip Hop fans that do like or listen to Marshall what do the majority prefer when Em is making Deep tracks from a Personal perspective or when he just tryning to entertain doing his Slim Shady tracks?


Even if if it's people liking both what would people say is more appeakling enjoyable to his black audiance?
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby Aftermathers » May 9th, '12, 03:48

InsaneTRex94 wrote:
Aftermathers wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong here or anyone that is black here can answer this


In general black Hip Hop fans that do like or listen to Marshall what do the majority prefer when Em is making Deep tracks from a Personal perspective or when he just tryning to entertain doing his Slim Shady tracks?


Even if if it's people liking both what would people say is more appeakling enjoyable to his black audiance?

I feel like as long as he's making good music it shouldn't matter.




I understand that but it still doesnt answer the question Subject Matter is a major factor to some


To some as many point out Shock Value, pshyco Lyrics just isn''t appealing

And to some Emotional, Personal Music is too soft or sounds boring
My top 10 fave Eminem Songs ever

Superman
Mockingbird
8 Mile Road
Rock Bottom
Sing For The Moment
Soldier
Hailies Song
When I'm Gone
If I Had
Say Goodbye To Hollywood




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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby UofLCard » May 9th, '12, 03:58

I'm white as can be and can't relate to Eminem's music.
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Re: For those blacks that say they can't relate to Em's Musi

Postby εncørε » May 9th, '12, 04:29

^^^
Same. minus one or two songs.
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