Gay Marches

[Guess_Who]

There's nothing wrong with that. It's like black people calling others *****. When a minority group uses a offensive word themselves, it lessens the impact of the word. It's called reappropriation. For example the word "queer" is now an acceptable term to describe members of the LGBT community.

Exacly. And here is an example. Gays love this show, look at the name:

http://www.imdb.es/title/tt0262985/

And we all know a lot of black people who say the N word.

[the real slim shady]

And we all know a lot of black people who say the N word.

I cant think of any

are there no gay people in the forum? id be suprised if there wasnt at least one..

[CrashBand]

having a straight pride parade would be called homophobic

okay I'm not too sure what you're trying to get at here.

Firstly, this is the most unnecessary thing ever. Secondly, it would create opportunities for people to be homophobic.

But yes if there was a hypothetical, unnecessary, ignorant 'straight pride parade' where we didn't discriminate and let gay people partake and all it's sole purpose was to say 'it's allright to be straight' then no, it wouldn't be homophobic. But this would be unbelievably unnecessary as being straight is not discriminated against.

[the real slim shady]

having a straight pride parade would be called homophobic

okay I'm not too sure what you're trying to get at here.

Firstly, this is the most unnecessary thing ever. Secondly, it would create opportunities for people to be homophobic.

But yes if there was a hypothetical, unnecessary, ignorant 'straight pride parade' where we didn't discriminate and let gay people partake and all it's sole purpose was to say 'it's allright to be straight' then no, it wouldn't be homophobic. But this would be unbelievably unnecessary as being straight is not discriminated against.

no... people were saying a straight pride parade wouldnt cause as much problems or people wouldnt be as bothered by it, and i was saying that that isnt true. Im not saying it is necessary..

[limea]

yeah but if i called someone a fag in public i'd get i trouble.... there was some guy nearby who heard the guy say it, but when he looked and realised the guy was gay he just didnt do anything.. seems kinda weird.

You'd get in trouble because you're straight, no one knows if you're a bigot or not. Unlike gay people, you know when they're using the word it isn't because of bigotry. And why would he do something? He would look like an idiot.

And it seems a bit contradictory to be using fag to describe someone when you are gay and it is supposed to be so offensive.. i suppose it is like the n word though

Nope, it's not. It's offensive when someone who is obviously is a bigot is using it, when a gay person uses it it's obvious that person isn't a bigot. And it actually HELPS in lowering the words impact.

And we all know a lot of black people who say the N word.

I cant think of any

Maybe not in the UK, but it's very common here in the US. You listen to hip-hop, there goes some examples right there.

[the real slim shady]

i was joking about that last bit a load of white people around here use the n-word now too, they just dont get it

[MikeNUFC]

Kind of off topic but I can never understand gay people...How can a MAN like Cock over Pussy? Makes no sense to me!

I think I lost 20 IQ points just reading this. Christ alive. How can people be this stupid?

[the real slim shady]

having a straight pride parade would be called homophobic

okay I'm not too sure what you're trying to get at here.

Firstly, this is the most unnecessary thing ever. Secondly, it would create opportunities for people to be homophobic.

But yes if there was a hypothetical, unnecessary, ignorant 'straight pride parade' where we didn't discriminate and let gay people partake and all it's sole purpose was to say 'it's allright to be straight' then no, it wouldn't be homophobic. But this would be unbelievably unnecessary as being straight is not discriminated against.

That'd defeat the entire purpose of a straight pride parade.

[CrashBand]

having a straight pride parade would be called homophobic

okay I'm not too sure what you're trying to get at here.

Firstly, this is the most unnecessary thing ever. Secondly, it would create opportunities for people to be homophobic.

But yes if there was a hypothetical, unnecessary, ignorant 'straight pride parade' where we didn't discriminate and let gay people partake and all it's sole purpose was to say 'it's allright to be straight' then no, it wouldn't be homophobic. But this would be unbelievably unnecessary as being straight is not discriminated against.

That'd defeat the entire purpose of a straight pride parade.

No it wouldn't. You're missing the point of a gay pride parade.

Me and you would be as free to join one as any (gay) person.

edit: @TRSS what was your supposed purpose? lol at not letting gay people partake in 'celebrating the straight man' and then getting antsy when people might mistake your ignorant scenario to be homophobic.

[the real slim shady]

i never said i was going to do it, the whole point was that it was a stupid idea.... i mean really dude, learn to fucking read.
I personally dont disagree with homosexual people in anyway, im freinds with one or two anyway so it would be a bit awkward if i didnt like gay people; my point is that they dont need to tell everyone about it in such an in your face way. I dont care that much about the marches really, but everyone was talking about it in the 'Last one to post thread' then i made this thread to move the arguement away from there. Now you keep on bringing up the same redundant point.. its wrong so fucking move on, get it?
If gay people are going to do a march, then whatever, im not going to stop them. Personally i dont think it is completely necessary (as i have said) and it will be a bit of an annoyance, but i can just ignore it easily enough. I dont really care that much about some people being proud of their sexuality, in the same way i dont give a shit about what someones sexuality. It makes no difference to me, so whatever. My whole idea is that they could find some other way of showing their pride in it, one that wont annoy people that already dislike homosexuals, and one that isnt just completely in your face.

Anyway, if you mention that same fucking point again i wont bother to reply, in fact i doubt i will anyway. I have said everything i need to say here, but it is being ignored by you guys because you think that i dislike gay people being proud of their sexuality. If i deny that, you will still think it so there is absolutely no point in going on with this bullshit. I can predict fairly well how this thread is going to go on from here......
"Oh but theyre discriminated against and they have to march to stop the discrimination and youre wrong for thinking otherwise..."
Its human nature to discriminate against certian people or groups, it is natural that people try mentally to make themselves seem better than other people. That is what people do, and when they stop that they get depressed and so on. Homophobia will always exist, marching wont stop it. Want to march anyway? feel free, as i have said so many times now, i dont give a fuck. Its like a march to stop racism... its a great idea, lots of people are against racism because it is unfair, but it will happen anyway because it is a part of the human condition.. like the desire for violence. It is there now, it always has been there and it always will be there, it is how we have evolved over millions of years. So if you still want to go on thinking that a march will stop homophobia or people bullying gay people, go ahead, whatever.

[CrashBand]

:facepalm i never said i was going to do it, the whole point was that it was a stupid idea.... i mean really dude, learn to fucking read.

Are you actually retarded? you literally quoted Menzo saying "letting gay people partake" would "defeat the entire purpose of a straight pride parade"

I then asked what you thought the purpose of a straight pride parade must be then as your version differs from mine. Letting straight people partake would not defeat the purpose of a gay pride parade you dipshit. Don't get annoyed because you regret making that stupid post.

I personally dont disagree with homosexual people in anyway, im freinds with one or two anyway so it would be a bit awkward if i didnt like gay people;

Good for you.

my point is that they dont need to tell everyone about it in such an in your face way. I dont care that much about the marches really, but everyone was talking about it in the 'Last one to post thread' then i made this thread to move the arguement away from there. Now you keep on bringing up the same redundant point. its wrong so fucking move on, get it?

I'm sorry for repeatedly bringing up this point that you seem to be missing but they do need to tell people about it in an in your face way such as a march. The same way the civil rights movement needed to. Actually now I think about it you could be on to something. It could have been more effective if Martin Luther King did his speech to his fifth grade teacher at lunchtime behind close doors like the autistic kid trss used to at school because he didn't want to do it in front of the other students.

If gay people are going to do a march, then whatever, im not going to stop them.

Thanks for clearing this up and again, good for you.

Personally i dont think it is completely necessary (as i have said) and it will be a bit of an annoyance, but i can just ignore it easily enough. I dont really care that much about some people being proud of their sexuality, in the same way i dont give a shit about what someones sexuality. It makes no difference to me, so whatever. My whole idea is that they could find some other way of showing their pride in it, one that wont annoy people that already dislike homosexuals, and one that isnt just completely in your face.

Same redundant point again so I won't bother on why raising awareness for gay rights is necessary in fear you may not reply.

Its human nature to discriminate against certian people or groups, it is natural that people try mentally to make themselves seem better than other people. That is what people do, and when they stop that they get depressed and so on. Homophobia will always exist, marching wont stop it. Want to march anyway? feel free, as i have said so many times now, i dont give a fuck. Its like a march to stop racism... its a great idea, lots of people are against racism because it is unfair, but it will happen anyway because it is a part of the human condition.. like the desire for violence. It is there now, it always has been there and it always will be there, it is how we have evolved over millions of years. So if you still want to go on thinking that a march will stop homophobia or people bullying gay people, go ahead, whatever.

Lol at thinking civil rights movement was ineffective because there are still idiots out there who are racist. You don't really bring up a relevant point here unless you're just stateing it's unfortunate that people will always be homophobic. Which yes, it is pretty unfortunate.

[the real slim shady]

Crash Band pretty much destroyed every idiotic assertion already made in this thread, so I'll just sit back and laugh at the childish, stupid hypothetical someone raised of a "straight pride rally."

We're here! We're not queer! We've experienced no sexuality-based discrimination and have nothing to fear!

We're here! We're not queer! We are entitled to more legal rights and privileges because we don't take it up the rear!

oh youre blind too

The whole reason that came up is because we were saying it wouldnt happen, and would be considered homophobic. Learn to read, then think about what we (or I at least) were (was) actually saying.

[CrashBand]

lol at you sig Amadeo

[dead prez]

Lol at the ignorance of this thread, let me get this fucking straight the majority opposing gay pride parades don't know LGBT people, they may think they do but they don't. I also find it hilarious that most of these rants about homos are exclusively about gays without any lesbian bashing, the sign of a true homophobe. And loll at the paranoid schmuck telling a gay couple that he'd openly tell them to stop making out. I can also bet that most of these people proclaiming theit annoyance of flamboyant esque gay guys have no problem at all with manly women.

[the real slim shady]

men or women, makes no difference. If anything i find gay women slightly more strange, but i dont have a problem with it. makes no difference to me (like i havent said that before in this thread)