Topics/Subjects you wanna see on the new album

[EminemBase]

^ Nope it's not like telling a weed dealer anything. Your analogy falls down there due to the fact drugs are not art; a drug dealer is providing a very specific thing for a price. It's a product.

Eminem's CDs may come at a price but his thoughts are not products. His art should be organic, and not catering to what you, I or anybody but himself wants to hear. Then: whoever likes it, likes it.

Plus, you're trying to imply that introspective content is the 'strong shit'? I can write introspection deeper than I've ever heard in a million rap songs combined. Writing your feelings and thoughts is not very hard, for somebody who can write; somebody who is self-aware and somebody who analyzes themselves. However, creating true originality takes more than plain practice.

You THINK I want 'guns and violence' and blah blah, but you don't actually understand Eminem as an artist. It's actually you who can't handle the 'strong' shit', you don't get it. You need the weak, predictable shit. A weed high is predictable, you want weed. An acid trip is unpredictable; deep, eye-opening and beautiful; I want some acid. You're too simple to want the acid.

[AmmoHaze]

^ Nope it's not like telling a weed dealer anything. Your analogy falls down there due to the fact drugs are not art; a drug dealer is providing a very specific thing for a price. It's a product.

Eminem's CDs may come at a price but his thoughts are not products. His art should be organic, and not catering to what you, I or anybody but himself wants to hear. Then: whoever likes it, likes it.

Plus, you're trying to imply that introspective content is the 'strong shit'? I can write introspection deeper than I've ever heard in a million rap songs combined. Writing your feelings and thoughts is not very hard, for somebody who can write; somebody who is self-aware and somebody who analyzes themselves. However, creating true originality takes more than plain practice.

You THINK I want 'guns and violence' and blah blah, but you don't actually understand Eminem as an artist. It's actually you who can't handle the 'strong' shit', you don't get it. You need the weak, predictable shit. A weed high is predictable, you want weed. An acid trip is unpredictable; deep, eye-opening and beautiful; I want some acid. You're too simple to want the acid.

But can you not understand the concept what you dont want is somethin many want and what you want isn't what everyone else wants to hear?


You get your product you like from Eminem i get mine why not just be grateful for that?

[EminemBase]

^ Nope it's not like telling a weed dealer anything. Your analogy falls down there due to the fact drugs are not art; a drug dealer is providing a very specific thing for a price. It's a product.

Eminem's CDs may come at a price but his thoughts are not products. His art should be organic, and not catering to what you, I or anybody but himself wants to hear. Then: whoever likes it, likes it.

Plus, you're trying to imply that introspective content is the 'strong shit'? I can write introspection deeper than I've ever heard in a million rap songs combined. Writing your feelings and thoughts is not very hard, for somebody who can write; somebody who is self-aware and somebody who analyzes themselves. However, creating true originality takes more than plain practice.

You THINK I want 'guns and violence' and blah blah, but you don't actually understand Eminem as an artist. It's actually you who can't handle the 'strong' shit', you don't get it. You need the weak, predictable shit. A weed high is predictable, you want weed. An acid trip is unpredictable; deep, eye-opening and beautiful; I want some acid. You're too simple to want the acid.

But can you not understand the concept what you dont want is somethin many want and what you want isn't what everyone else wants to hear?

You get your product you like from Eminem i get mine why not just be grateful for that?

I do understand that concept that many people want introspective content from Eminem.

(also, plenty of people want artistic and creative content from Eminem rather than introspective. Why do you think most people here appose you? I also have friends who wanna hear that.)

But what I am saying is, he doesn't owe that to you. He's not coca cola; he's not Apple - you don't own shares in Eminem, he's an artist. He should write whatever feels organically natural to him.

We both want different things, but Eminem owes neither one of us anything.

I want Eminem to be creative and conceptual; if I get it, great, but if not and he truly, naturally felt like writing differently... oh well then. I'm just observing, we're all just observing.

He doesn't owe you a certain kind of content just because he's done it and you like it.

[AmmoHaze]

And lets not twist the numbers EminemBaee both The Eminem Show and MMLP have sold exactly the same 10 Million both his highest selling albums both diamond.


But lets look @ facts too as of now The MMLP is @ 10 million it came out 12 years ago while Recovery in 2 years from it's realese is @ 7 million



You do the math?



My Name Is, We Made You, Stan etc charted higher than Not Afraid & Lose Yourself too right?

[EminemBase]

And lets not twist the numbers EminemBaee both The Eminem Show and MMLP have sold exactly the same 10 Million both his highest selling albums both diamond.

No, The Marshall Mathers LP has sold 22 million worldwide. And it's the album that's gone down as his artistic masterpiece and it contains the song that made many consider him a genius, which is? "Stan". Now it also featured "The Way I Am" which is classic, but that was unique due to the timing and its content, it wasn't redundant. But "Stan" is what marks his history.

But the numbers make absolutely no difference to this argument. I only threw that in there jokingly to compete with you on your level.

Regardless of what any of them has sold, I couldn't care less if 99% of the planet wanted introspection from Eminem - HE'S NOT A PRODUCT, HE'S NOT A BUSINESS. HE OWES YOU NOTHING.

Eminem should do what Eminem wants to do. He doesn't owe you introspection.

My Name Is, We Made You, Stan etc charted higher than Not Afraid & Lose Yourself too right?

Firstly, "Lose Yourself" is conceptual, he's rapping in-character.

Secondly - do you think "Not Afraid" is what will be debated and discussed in twenty years, like "Stan"? something being more popular, doesn't make it better.

The masses are morons. Most people are stupid. Look at the kinds of artists that DOMINATED for years on end to the same kind of degree Eminem did - artists like Britney Spears, or boy bands; does that prove what they do is better? stop being a 'tard.

It doesn't matter what we think is better.

The point is: you are owed nothing. You are just an observer. He is the artist.

Eminem will create whatever he creates. And if it doesn't turn out to be the predictable, yawnworthy, repetitive, simplistic, rambling life trite that you crave; how unfortunate - just go watch Big Brother or the latest TV soap opera for your cheesy emotional fix.

[slimfan94]

I want a serial killer song where he kills the OP.

[AmmoHaze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAMdmB8gRSM


everything i say Eminem says straight outta his own mouth @ EminemBase


You think i care what a blog not liking what most people do lmao says thinks about me when i can show you something like 70K people rocking to Not Afraid or Mockingbird some literally in tears and i can show the footage don't just take my word?


You mind state isn't positive fam you can't be selfish when you know your music has helped people get through poverty, helped became better parents, beat drug addiction etc

[EminemBase]

You think i care what a blog not liking what most people do lmao says thinks about me when i can show you something like 70K people rocking to Not Afraid or Mockingbird some literally in tears and i can show the footage don't just take my word?


You mind state isn't positive fam you can't be selfish when you know your music has helped people get through poverty, helped became better parents, beat drug addiction etc

You have no point.

When have I denied Eminem's introspective content has helped or inspired or touched people? I haven't, so all you're doing right now is enjoying hearing yourself talk, but what you're saying is redundant, repetitive and obvious. But you're not listening in return.

Like I say: it doesn't matter what the majority wants. It doesn't matter what you want. It doesn't matter what >I< want. Eminem should not create music FOR people.

I have beat drug addiction, so what? what's your fucking point. I KNOW you want music like that from Eminem, I know a lot of people do, listen to me: I... KNOW.

What you are not hearing is, I do not care, it's not about what 'we' want.

Eminem is a true artist and should create for himself. He owes you nothing.

PS. I like those songs; I like most of his introspective songs, but I'm bored of it and it's obvious. There's no need for it to be the main focus now. I favour creativity over obviousness.

[slimfan94]

And lets not twist the numbers EminemBaee both The Eminem Show and MMLP have sold exactly the same 10 Million both his highest selling albums both diamond.


But lets look @ facts too as of now The MMLP is @ 10 million it came out 12 years ago while Recovery in 2 years from it's realese is @ 7 million



You do the math?



My Name Is, We Made You, Stan etc charted higher than Not Afraid & Lose Yourself too right?

I can't believe I'm gonna seriously respond to this but here it goes:

1) Not Afraid charted higher because first off it had a more mainstream radio friendly sound. Stan also charted high everywhere but America? Why? Because every other countries bases it on downloads not radio charts.
2) You twisted the numbers you dumb shit. You used recoverys world wide numbers and the mmlps us numbers.

[AmmoHaze]

Fact is Lose Yourself wether conceptual or not i love cos i been through poverty, welfare, minimum wage i can relate i love how he spitting about his life the passion etc


I hate soap operas believe me i never been a Big Brother fan it is wack to me and guess what i love comedy Fresh Prince, Kenan and Kel etc



But the horrorcore violent lyrics, twisted humor type music over forced Flows just never appealed to me it just is not my thing it sounds cringe worthy to me just like you talk about acid i never would do that i only would smoke weed and not just cos its fun but cos it is apart of my culture



A song like Mockingbird i got dope content, dope lyrics, catchy, hook, dope beat i can relate to every word same goes for Rock Bottom, Lose Yourself, 8 Mile Road what more can i ask 4 when i got eveeything wanbna hear on them songs?


The content on Same Song & Dance i hate, the Flow is not appealing, the delivery not what i like



I like Bob Marley, 2pac not Insane Clown Pose and Lil b



I like Kush not Acid and cocaine



Moral of the story like what you like stop complaining

[EminemBase]

The moral of the story is: you'll get what you're given.

Eminem owes neither one of us anything, we are observing.

He'll create whatever he creates, trying to box him in or treat him like a service is retarded.

[slimfan94]

Aftermathers give up embase is owning you right now.

[AmmoHaze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAMdmB8gRSM


everything i say Eminem says straight outta his own mouth @ EminemBase


You think i care what a blog not liking what most people do lmao says thinks about me when i can show you something like 70K people rocking to Not Afraid or Mockingbird some literally in tears and i can show the footage don't just take my word?


You mind state isn't positive fam you can't be selfish when you know your music has helped people get through poverty, helped became better parents, beat drug addiction etc

I can't wait until his music finally helps you overcome your addiction to being a complete fucking idiot.

A person that likes positivity, up lifting, inspirational music be it from Eminem, Bob Marley, 2pac, Beatles is an idiot but a person that likes cartoonish violnt music be it from Shady, Lil B, Hopsin, Tech 9 is awesome to you?



only on the net only on the net lol (not even twitter, facebook where you see peoples faces even really only on blogs)

[rapaddict92]

[quote="EminemBase"]^ Nope it's not like telling a weed dealer anything. Your analogy falls down there due to the fact drugs are not art;

off topic sorta: lol growing weed is totally an art form. however selling it not so much. (trust me )

on topic: honestly i love when Em puts emotion in his albums/music, its what hes known for. But i wan't to hear him put his lyricism to the ULTIMATE test. because we all know Em can spit some bars that even out wit the most clever ppl, but i feel he's only scratched the surface. push it to the MAX i say!

[slimfan94]

^ Nope it's not like telling a weed dealer anything. Your analogy falls down there due to the fact drugs are not art;

off topic sorta: lol growing weed is totally an art form. however selling it not so much. (trust me )

on topic: honestly i love when Em puts emotion in his albums/music, its what hes known for. But i wan't to hear him put his lyricism to the ULTIMATE test. because we all know Em can spit some bars that even out wit the most clever ppl, but i feel he's only scratched the surface. push it to the MAX i say!

Well there's this album called relapse....