I swear Trshady surprises and frustrates me at times. So you guys have a 250 page thread on slaughterhouse and anticipation and love for them but when one of the GREATEST slaughterhouse tracks of all time drops you have 2 pages of mediocre to unimpressed discussion on this? Are you fucking kidding me?
Lets look at what the people are saying (nothing personal)
Its too long
i'll be bored soon by this
15 minutes really
why ddnt they make it 2 songs
Is your ADHD that bad?!! Mutherfuckers its 15 minutes. The greatest periods of instrumentation had HOURS worth of music that would paint images of raging bulls hurtling through spain. Spoken Word poetry (the closest thing to rap equivalents) had long, intricate and unrushed pieces for full expression. Yet, this genre is limited to a mere 6-7 minutes? THEY CANT SAY IT ALL IN THAT TIME. Have you not noticed that when they say something profound it takes longer? Kendrick Lamar did it on the City. Andre 3000 and Rick Ross acknowledged it on Sixteen. These are not days in which people still make ALBUMS! They make songs. You require range of subject matter because you put the music on shuffle on your mp3. The musicians of 2 decades ago would have made a "I Used to Love her" or an "Illmatic" because at that point people listened to the whole tape. Slaughterhouse is only adapting to the changing musical landscape. No Wonder ATS flopped.
Oh, they've done this before on Move on
We want something creative and new
Do you? Do you really discuss something creative and new everytime?! Dont let Eminembase's ideological utopia posion you. We come here and discuss albums. Everyday. Rappers, everyday. Eminem, ever hour. Concerts and perfomances, everyday. When you go into the real world people talk about sports, everyday. Wars and conflicts, everyday. As the saying goes
There is nothing new under the sun
The secret is not to not touch on subjects touched on before. The secret is to touch on it in a way that engages the listener and shows growth/ progress/ change/ struggle. The passion and hurt and confusion in Joe Budden's verse is real and current and as he says, a reflection of him at that point. That is what music means to him and to alot of people that consume it (as his fans will attest).
oh, people fall for "emotional"
"Introspection is easy"
hell na the fuck not!!! Smfh. All these youtube white Eminem wannabes? Bad Introspection records. All these haters and limelight haunt me by Drake and Lil Wayne. Bad Introspection records. 50 cents i'm an outcast. Bad introspection records.
Its about being clear, being earnest, putting EFFORT in your words to make them sound good. Yellow brick Road is possibly Eminem's most nostalgic record yet clearly one of the weakest. Difficult is heart and emotion but does it stand good lyrically, musically? Those who enjoy it, view it as you would the extras at the end of the movie laughing at the bloopers than actively engaging in the showpiece. This record on the other hand is the movie, the main release. The one the artists makes FOR you and yet not with the "imma put an emo record for sales by Tyga" but as Joe Budeen says
Do I do it for attention cause I crave it, I won't mention it, I'll save it
If you know me than you know a nigga treasure anonymity
Listen, I don't owe y'all shit
But all this time I was being me, not being you
I get behind that mic, let all my demons through
Without knowing shit about the people that I'm speaking to
Add that to me not seeing a reason to
And that says a lot in a room full of silence,
And c'mon the wordplay in this track? Motherfuckers be sleeping on some of the wittiest, passionate, creative, hardhitting, exciting punchlines of the year.
Royce-Am I selfish for asking myself
"Would you rather count money or count blessings?" (profound)
Y'all might've lost me, but y'all win (nice)
"I'm fucking my whole life up for you?" Answer this question:
"What the fuck are you doing for me?" Answer that!(who has challenged his fans like this since Eminem?)
Joe Budden- Do I do it for attention cause I crave it, I won't mention it, I'll save it
If you know me than you know a nigga treasure anonymity (multies fans... have a field day)
And think that came along with your 20 dollar purchase
You bought the music, not the nigga that made it
But all this time I was being me, not being you(hard!)
I always said you were the worst baby-mother
I had ex-girl confused with baby-mother
And there lies my problem with our creator
All the times I wanted her black ass dead, you wouldn't take her
Don't do it now, I need her
(Understand, it don't get no realer
Crooked I-
A lot of them niggas died, sweatshirt blood drenched
Others went to jail, they hit a lick and left thumbprints (hear his pain)
But I’m like an orgasm man, I came from nothing (:p)
So lame you struttin’, the cain you frontin’
Fuck all that, if I was born rich I would rhyme about it
I was born poor in a ditch, I’m rhyming tryna climb up out it
Tryna avoud a life of crime I’m ’bout
Some say I’ll be fine without it
But I kinda doubt it (/dead)
Half of my fathers family died of cancer alone
He called me sick, I didn’t answer the phone
How does it feel to know that your son doesn’t care
Cause you wasn’t there, life wasn’t fair
This aint no muthafuckin’ rap music
Just the other night I coulda killed a nigga man (Think about it man)
Joell Ortiz-
But he chronic asthmatic so he fully suited on the sideline wishing he could be in there but still
cheering for his team (These arent Daughters generic ghostwritten rhymes... real parenting pains)
From the lobby huffing and puffing running from robberies
2 Crooked I, Royce Da 5’9″, Joe Budden, homie from the goodie mob & me carving artistry
Celebrating escaping poverty(>>>My Life)
Chinese outta hocks but that was on the first, other than that
Liver works and government sent me yellow cheese in box
Ya’ll aint have that yellow cheese in a box (no-one knows what it means but it is provocative!)
My uncle fading from that needle though
Found out he fully blown a couple weeks ago
My aunt tested negative but it’s the same result
But she gon die on the same day he stop breathing yo
Come at me with indirect’s, I aint gon write a song about you
I’mma knee you in your neck
And write a song about how I just beat ya to death
plus, as musically illeterate as some of ya'll are with the bashing of Rick Ross' Teflon Don production you simply cannot deny this is one of the greatest most soulful beats of all time.
Hey, i respect those that simply dont like the song, i dont like Relapse. But failing to acknowledge its merits and blindly/ harshly/ unfairly bashing it makes me sad for YOUR musical experience.
I've played this song for 3 hours in a row now (added the instrumental and the original) and i am in absolute awe.
. agreed
