A Classic

[Cube23]

Eminem has been horrible since 2004. Excluding the Relapse Album and like three songs off Recovery, his music has been one listen and never again more times than not. Bad beats, bad lyrics, bad flow, bad voice. Ever aspect of his music sucks.

I keep coming around, hoping for a good song here and there. And he will come through for those expectations. But people claiming he is LIKE 02 SHADY NOW, WOO HE'S BACK, you're dreaming. People reach their peak, then fall from it. Happens in music, sports, everything.

He's had an amazing career. But he's like the old baseball player in the twilight of their career. Yeah he hits a home run now and then, but mostly strikes out.

Kmart

I agree with everything stated here 100%.

[Man1x]

Tbh, on the Kendrick Lamar forum I'm part of, they give more praise to Eminem than here. Sure, they critique his work amongst themselves, but they don't discredit his good work. It's a lot less polarized, here people say he has never done any wrong or that everything completely sucks. They are at least honest about his career, I mean Recovery had more than 3 good song. Sure post-Recovery has been somewhat lack luster when talking about features. The EP was fine, but Recovery's biggest problem were the beats, not Eminem's rapping. It was a fine album, not classic.

[cooper121]

Tbh, on the Kendrick Lamar forum I'm part of, they give more praise to Eminem than here. Sure, they critique his work amongst themselves, but they don't discredit his good work. It's a lot less polarized, here people say he has never done any wrong or that everything completely sucks. They are at least honest about his career, I mean Recovery had more than 3 good song. Sure post-Recovery has been somewhat lack luster when talking about features. The EP was fine, but Recovery's biggest problem were the beats, not Eminem's rapping. It was a fine album, not classic.

The point is hes not at his peak any more were never going to get a classic its just alright albums from here on.

[Man1x]

Tbh, on the Kendrick Lamar forum I'm part of, they give more praise to Eminem than here. Sure, they critique his work amongst themselves, but they don't discredit his good work. It's a lot less polarized, here people say he has never done any wrong or that everything completely sucks. They are at least honest about his career, I mean Recovery had more than 3 good song. Sure post-Recovery has been somewhat lack luster when talking about features. The EP was fine, but Recovery's biggest problem were the beats, not Eminem's rapping. It was a fine album, not classic.

The point is hes not at his peak any more were never going to get a classic its just alright albums from here on.

That I agree with. He's deffinitly not at his peak.

[Jimmy Conway]

Even if he DID make a classic album, half of the Hip Hop fans on the internet would hate it to Kingdom Come. It seems like it's mandatory to hate on Em nowadays.

Quite Funny how this trueful statement was followed by this nonsense...

Eminem has been horrible since 2004. Excluding the Relapse Album and like three songs off Recovery, his music has been one listen and never again more times than not. Bad beats, bad lyrics, bad flow, bad voice. Ever aspect of his music sucks.

Kmart

Excluding the Relapse? Hmmmm that's some good Contradiction.

Plus, what's on your hip hop/rap CV to judge what Em does with his career? you obviously know more than him right?

Relapse was and still is awesome. Great beats, smooth flow, amazing rhymes, interesting stories, for the most part.

Much better than Recovery. Recovery sounded like a quickly thrown together mixed tape. The beats were medicore. I was so surprised to read that Eminem had HUNDREDS of beats to go through. I would hate to hear the shit that missed the album. It just wasn't Eminem. Apologizing for music he had making, talking about holding hands and shit. It was just a mess.

But it had Lil wayne and other shitty features and it had EMOTIONS, OH PROOF, HE STILL WUVS KIM....so people ate it up.

I know the music doesn't sound good to me anymore. So that gives me the right to judge. Yeah, it's just my opinion. But I want to like Eminem. It's not like you have to give me Illmatic for me to listen to it. Just give me something that's not choppy beats, colaberations, screaming, and subject matter that is talking about fucking Kmart.

My point is, he does give a fuck and that's his main problem. He was better when he just made music and didn't worry about what anyone thought.

If he just made an album, with no one on it but him. Half produced by him and half by Dre, not rushing, not listening to opinions, just having fun with it. It would probably be pretty good. But I don't have my hopes up for that to ever happen. But if he can squeeze out one Stay Wide Awake or one 25 to life on his next album, I'll be happy.

[Man1x]

That 100%, I can get behind those statements ^

[JamaicanPattlez]

Even if he DID make a classic album, half of the Hip Hop fans on the internet would hate it to Kingdom Come. It seems like it's mandatory to hate on Em nowadays.

Quite Funny how this trueful statement was followed by this nonsense...

Eminem has been horrible since 2004. Excluding the Relapse Album and like three songs off Recovery, his music has been one listen and never again more times than not. Bad beats, bad lyrics, bad flow, bad voice. Ever aspect of his music sucks.

Kmart

Excluding the Relapse? Hmmmm that's some good Contradiction.

Plus, what's on your hip hop/rap CV to judge what Em does with his career? you obviously know more than him right?

Here's the thing... I value people's opinion on music, but the only one I truly care about is my own. I just don't like how people say "Eminem sucks lol he should quit rap and work at KMart/McDonalds". I mean.. nobody wants to mess with Em because it's Eminem. If majority of the Hip Hop culture felt the same way, everyone would start taking shots at him. But who's taken shots... Canibus? Benzino? Rick Ross? I have a feeling that his next album he's not even gonna care what people say anymore. And I wouldn't either. People got Relapse, they bitched "AW THE FUCKIN' ACCENTS! MAKE IT STAHP, MAHN!" People got Recovery, they bitched "FUCK EM STOP WITH THE SCREAMING AND PUNCHLINES OR ELSE I'M GONNA GO JOHN WAYNE ON YOUR ASS!" Then we get Hell: The Sequel "FUCK EM, STOP TALKING ABOUT DICKS!" And finally, Our House JUST dropped, and people say :
"FUCK EM I HATE
YOUR CHOPPY
FLOW CHA
NGE IT!"

If I were him, I'd feel confused as fuck. Luckily, Asylum seemed to be something everyone liked, so maybe if he works within those grounds, people will enjoy his next LP.

[JamaicanPattlez]

^that.

People try so hard to change your opinion to their own, it gets annoying as fuck.

It really does! I mean if you dislike a song or an artist, cool. That's you. But don't go trying to change other people's opinions. Your musical taste is your musical taste. I personally liked Our House, Throw That and Asylum. Some people hate it religiously. That's cool, because it doesn't take away the enjoyment I get from listening to the songs.

[Berry]

^that.

People try so hard to change your opinion to their own, it gets annoying as fuck.

It really does! I mean if you dislike a song or an artist, cool. That's you. But don't go trying to change other people's opinions. Your musical taste is your musical taste. I personally liked Our House, Throw That and Asylum. Some people hate it religiously. That's cool, because it doesn't take away the enjoyment I get from listening to the songs.

Absolutely.


Em can't win. His fan base is too varied.

[JamaicanPattlez]

^that.

People try so hard to change your opinion to their own, it gets annoying as fuck.

It really does! I mean if you dislike a song or an artist, cool. That's you. But don't go trying to change other people's opinions. Your musical taste is your musical taste. I personally liked Our House, Throw That and Asylum. Some people hate it religiously. That's cool, because it doesn't take away the enjoyment I get from listening to the songs.

Absolutely.


Em can't win. His fan base is too varied.

He can't and I guarantee you if he went back to his TES shit people would complain about that too. Then you have people going "Oh he's trying to rehash his past, make some new shit, Marshall." But the funny thing is, I bet if he were to announce his retirement right now, a lot of people would change their tone.

[Man1x]

Hey, I'm not trying to change opinions. Of I like a song I say I like it, if I dislike something about a song I'll comment on it. I love Eminem too, he's one of my favorite artists and I'm always looking out for his music. There is only a handful of artists I do that for. Others I just check their news feeds on google periodically. With Emienm and a few others it's day after day. It's not my fault if I don't like every song. We all know Eminem can do better, unless I'm mistaken of that.

[12characters]

Hey, I'm not trying to change opinions. Of I like a song I say I like it, if I dislike something about a song I'll comment on it. I love Eminem too, he's one of my favorite artists and I'm always looking out for his music. There is only a handful of artists I do that for. Others I just check their news feeds on google periodically. With Emienm and a few others it's day after day. It's not my fault if I don't like every song. We all know Eminem can do better, unless I'm mistaken of that.

In the end, everyone can do better though.

[Man1x]

Never said others couldn't do better.

[12characters]

Never said others couldn't do better.

But it's kind of pointless to bring up

[Emadyville]

I think he can and probably will, but only time will tell