The main problem with Em's current style is...

[Kill You]

Huh? you don't even know you a bit immature. You don't think his brother, grandmother, faith, adopted daughter and these kinda things don't make him happy? it's a no brainer that he always been a family oriented person and he loves spending time with them, So i don't get it? this would be good to hear on his album about them in an up beat mood and concept

No, I'm saying you are Aftermathers. Wasn't talking about Eminem.

Yes, I think things make him happy, but he's Eminem...happy is not who he is. He is naturally not a happy person, you can tell if you're an actual fan of all of his music instead of just the emotional part. Fuck emotions, we want SLIM SHADY. Emotions for Em nowadays = Lighters. His Our House verse is somewhat emotional at parts, but for the most part I believe it's another "I'll never quit and I'm a cold person" verse. Listen to his A Kiss verses, listen to his Welcome 2 Hell verses and The Reunion verses...all are better than his emotional shit. We want the REAL Eminem back, not some guy trying to please all of his whiny ass fans. He needs to say fuck the fans and make the music he wants to make. And clearly the music he wants to make gears more toward Shady than Eminem.

Who Aftermath? Well he always expressed hpiness about his daughter that is what makes him proud, he naturally had a tough life so he not gonna be as happy as someone who ain't had the same toough upbrining. But it's his emotional music that don't sound happy usually it's biographical about his life and his life was hard so you making no sense. It's just your opinion what you think is better. How you know the emotional music isn't what he wanna do? you making assumption with out fact i mean can you post an interview of him saying i didn't wanna make this song or that song cos its emotional? you can't. If it wasn't for his fans he wouldn't be where he is the fans buy the music put money to give him everything he has so he respects his fans i think it's foolish to think he would disrespect his fans. Don't you mean you want Shady back? he's been doing emotional songs from his first album infact first EP so what makes you think he doesn't wanna do that now when he been doing If I Had songs since 1997?

During Relapse he said he was tired of making those types of songs. Recovery was only him catering to his fans. A REAL artist makes the music they want to make...if you make music for others then your music is not genuine or real.

I am fairly positive that he doesn't wanna make too many emotional songs for this next album. Some emo songs are alright, to provide balance, but his next album needs to be like 70% Slim Shady at least...that's Em's CHARACTER. I wouldn't want Em to be talking about bottles in the club for example because that's not him...Slim Shady is a result of all the fucked up things going on in his head, Shady IS Eminem. His hardships LED to Slim Shady.

And you name ONE song off a predominately non-emotional album (If I Had, which is a song I don't like). Good job. You would have had better luck naming a track from The Eminem Show. Have you forgotten that the same man who made TES and Recovery also made SSLP, MMLP, Relapse, and H:TS? As I said, any real Eminem fan can enjoy all aspects of his music. I do enjoy the emotional content, but it's SO run into the ground that if he bitches about his life one more time I'm gonna go insane. He needs to start making up concepts and stories again instead of just "wah wah wah, fame sucks." We don't believe you, Em.

[Cheers]

Kill You i seen the interview you talking about he didn't say he was tired of making emotional songs he said he was loathing a lil too much cos he used to be so down, he went through so much so he wanted to bring back Slim Shady with Relapse go in his Shady direction. HOwever when Relapse came out he said himself after listening to it the jokes got old and he felt like after 1 listen of Relapse it was like ok this dont have replay value he felt it got tire some to listen to after a few listens. He said that he played the Shady character into the ground. Now you can't forget what he also has said during the old days that he didn't want to make another song like My Name Is his exact words straight outta his mouth was he hated that song it was corny. He said Interscope made him do the singles like The Real Slim Shady. I bought up If I Had but would also like to mention Rock Bottom from the first album cos you made it sound like he hasn't been doing these emotional songs from his very first album. It wasn't about wether you liked them but just poiting out these type of songs were on his first album. You mentined you got tired of hearing about fame but on Recovery he never rapped about fame that was mostly about his drug addiction so what do you mean?

[Man1x]

I'm a failed abortion

truuuu

[Kill You]

Kill You i seen the interview you talking about he didn't say he was tired of making emotional songs he said he was loathing a lil too much cos he used to be so down, he went through so much so he wanted to bring back Slim Shady with Relapse go in his Shady direction. HOwever when Relapse came out he said himself after listening to it the jokes got old and he felt like after 1 listen of Relapse it was like ok this dont have replay value he felt it got tire some to listen to after a few listens. He said that he played the Shady character into the ground. Now you can't forget what he also has said during the old days that he didn't want to make another song like My Name Is his exact words straight outta his mouth was he hated that song it was corny. He said Interscope made him do the singles like The Real Slim Shady. I bought up If I Had but would also like to mention Rock Bottom from the first album cos you made it sound like he hasn't been doing these emotional songs from his very first album. It wasn't about wether you liked them but just poiting out these type of songs were on his first album. You mentined you got tired of hearing about fame but on Recovery he never rapped about fame that was mostly about his drug addiction so what do you mean?

Rock Bottom and If I Had...have you heard the rest of the album?

I didn't say shit about Recovery, I know he didn't particularly bitch about fame. I'm saying, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. You might want to but I sure as shit don't.

If Em liked emotional songs, why has he only done a small handful of them since his comeback? I doubt Em likes talking about personal things either. He was clearly having the time of his life on Relapse just indulging himself into characters...it was a work of art. Recovery is just another Eminem album. Albeit, a great one, I won't deny that I love Recovery. But over time Relapse is just so much richer and full of life (or death lol).

[Cheers]

I'm a failed abortion

truuuu

How old are 10 years old come up with better jokes and don't be so sensitive. Everyone just wants another great album from Eminem again and after Recovery the hopes of him delivering something ill again matching that album or even 1 step better are high so let's all just try to get along and look forward to the album. He always delivers for the fans so let's just be patient. He apologized for Encore and Relapse so lets be happy he gonna focus on making the best album he can and not make past mistakes again.

[Kill You]

We are getting along, this is only a debate.

[Man1x]

I'm a failed abortion

truuuu

I'm also a fakkit

truuuuuuu

[Nimation]

His main problem is his fans. I mean you can't just go on and say "hey em, don't do that, do this cause I don't like that". He exactly knows what he's doing and the thing about Eminem is that he doesn't care what people think about his works, be it his fans... He changed his style since relapse and that wasn't random, he did it on purpose
because he felt like his old style was getting old and boring even to himself. Some of his fans may not like the fact that he's not an outlaw anymore, he changed his whole life and officially became a celebrity. SSLP is gone, MMLP is gone, ES is gone... We got a brand new Eminem. That's a fact that you can't change... I love all kind of songs he sings, emotional, diss and humorous. Try to get along with it.

[Cheers]

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Rock Bottom and If I Had...have you heard the rest of the album?

I didn't say shit about Recovery, I know he didn't particularly bitch about fame. I'm saying, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. You might want to but I sure as shit don't.

If Em liked emotional songs, why has he only done a small handful of them since his comeback? I doubt Em likes talking about personal things either. He was clearly having the time of his life on Relapse just indulging himself into characters...it was a work of art. Recovery is just another Eminem album. Albeit, a great one, I won't deny that I love Recovery. But over time Relapse is just so much richer and full of life (or death lol).[/quote]


No you missed the point i know they are just 2 songs but the main point you missed was he been making songs like those 2 from his very first album wether it's 1 song, 2 songs, 3 songs like that compared to the rest is not the point but the point is he always made those kind of songs from his very first album why wouldn't he? they are based on his life, apart of who he is, what he lived, what he had to deal with. You keep menting you don't wanna hear him b1Tch about fame but how many songs he he ever made about fame? not many possibley 1-2 max i can't even think of 2. So what makes you keep mentining fame when he has barley made songs about that?
You say a handdful since his comeback well that makes no no sense he made a whole album of emotional songs Recovery lol which is his last solo album. If he don't like making songs about personal things why did he have IF I Had, Rock Bottom on his very first album, why did he have an album like The Eminem Show in 2002 full of personal songs? you cabn't make assumptions with out facts when the albums, singles he has released since 1999 go againist your theory. You say he had the time of his life making Relapse but he himself has said that he felt the joke and character on it got played out boring after a few listens words straight outta his mouth lol not mine but his words. He also apologized for making Relapse on Not Afraid. Just like him saying he hated My Name is were words outta his mouth. so you assumptions go againist the facts.

[Kill You]

^ Yeah, and he also secretly loves Relapse. I'm telling you, he dissed Relapse to get back in everyone's good graces. He MAY have made those Recovery songs for himself, but dissing Relapse was for the fans entirely. He loves Relapse. Yeah, he might feel the joke is over but that doesn't mean he hates it. He's basically just saying it's bad for its lack of content.

You think Recovery is all emotional songs? Let's see...

Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Won't Back Down, W.T.P., Seduction, No Love, Cinderella Man, So Bad, Almost Famous, Untitled...all are not emotional songs lol. Plus the bonus tracks, Session One and Ridaz, are far from emotional.

[Cheers]

His main problem is his fans. I mean you can't just go on and say "hey em, don't do that, do this cause I don't like that". He exactly knows what he's doing and the thing about Eminem is that he doesn't care what people think about his works, be it his fans... He changed his style since relapse and that wasn't random, he did it on purpose
because he felt like his old style was getting old and boring even to himself. Some of his fans may not like the fact that he's not an outlaw anymore, he changed his whole life and officially became a celebrity. SSLP is gone, MMLP is gone, ES is gone... We got a brand new Eminem. That's a fact that you can't change... I love all kind of songs he sings, emotional, diss and humorous. Try to get along with it.

That's true like some here have well Kill You atleast have said when he raps about his life they don't wanna hear emotional songs cos they think he whinning but i don't think Eminem really cares about those who think that cos he just doing him it's his life, his story, his troubles he makes song about if you like it and relate you like it if you don't you simply don't is how he honestly sees it i think. I think he would think you call it whinning but you haven't lived and been what he rapping about in these things then you wouldn't get it to you it is whinning but to me it was my life that's how i think he would see it. He comfortable in the fact he so many happen to like it and enjoy those songs from him and not bothered by those who don't.

[Kill You]

His main problem is his fans. I mean you can't just go on and say "hey em, don't do that, do this cause I don't like that". He exactly knows what he's doing and the thing about Eminem is that he doesn't care what people think about his works, be it his fans... He changed his style since relapse and that wasn't random, he did it on purpose
because he felt like his old style was getting old and boring even to himself. Some of his fans may not like the fact that he's not an outlaw anymore, he changed his whole life and officially became a celebrity. SSLP is gone, MMLP is gone, ES is gone... We got a brand new Eminem. That's a fact that you can't change... I love all kind of songs he sings, emotional, diss and humorous. Try to get along with it.

That's true like some here have well Kill You atleast have said when he raps about his life they don't wanna hear emotional songs cos they think he whinning but i don't think Eminem really cares about those who think that cos he just doing him it's his life, his story, his troubles he makes song about if you like it and relate you like it if you don't you simply don't is how he honestly sees it i think. I think he would think you call it whinning but you haven't lived and been what he rapping about in these things then you wouldn't get it to you it is whinning but to me it was my life that's how i think he would see it. He comfortable in the fact he so many happen to like it and enjoy those songs from him and not bothered by those who don't.

You make it out like I don't like his emotional music (TES is my favorite Em album for fuck's sake). That's not the case. I just don't wanna hear it on his next album. A few emo songs are alright but he really does need to go back to being that pissed off white rapper he used to be. And I think he is pissed at his fans, for the record.

[Cheers]

^ Yeah, and he also secretly loves Relapse. I'm telling you, he dissed Relapse to get back in everyone's good graces. He MAY have made those Recovery songs for himself, but dissing Relapse was for the fans entirely. He loves Relapse. Yeah, he might feel the joke is over but that doesn't mean he hates it. He's basically just saying it's bad for its lack of content.

You think Recovery is all emotional songs? Let's see...

Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Won't Back Down, W.T.P., Seduction, No Love, Cinderella Man, So Bad, Almost Famous, Untitled...all are not emotional songs lol. Plus the bonus tracks, Session One and Ridaz, are far from emotional.

And if he feels it's bad for it's content like he said and feels it gets played out the jokes on it after a listen even if he don't hate it atleast he being honest about those things and that is something respactable that he honest. It's just i think if you said to him i feel like you whinning i don't believe you then i really think he would feel like if that's how you feel you didn't understand him and his life where he came from if that is all you get outta his emotional songs. Theres nothing stopping you bumping Relapse but those who like THe Eminem Show, Recovery songs with emotion on The SSLP, MMLP you have to respect that they like what they do just like you like Relapse. It's just a lotta what you say don't add up he has been personal from day 1 from the first album. He said himself he writes to get what he goes through of his chest in a sense that it's like therapy releasing all his troubles and with his pen and he said many people have been through what he has so he knows they relate. These are all words outta his mouth.

[Kill You]

^ Yeah, and he also secretly loves Relapse. I'm telling you, he dissed Relapse to get back in everyone's good graces. He MAY have made those Recovery songs for himself, but dissing Relapse was for the fans entirely. He loves Relapse. Yeah, he might feel the joke is over but that doesn't mean he hates it. He's basically just saying it's bad for its lack of content.

You think Recovery is all emotional songs? Let's see...

Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Won't Back Down, W.T.P., Seduction, No Love, Cinderella Man, So Bad, Almost Famous, Untitled...all are not emotional songs lol. Plus the bonus tracks, Session One and Ridaz, are far from emotional.

And if he feels it's bad for it's content like he said and feels it gets played out the jokes on it after a listen even if he don't hate it atleast he being honest about those things and that is something respactable that he honest. It's just i think if you said to him i feel like you whinning i don't believe you then i really think he would feel like if that's how you feel you didn't understand him and his life where he came from if that is all you get outta his emotional songs. Theres nothing stopping you bumping Relapse but those who like THe Eminem Show, Recovery songs with emotion on The SSLP, MMLP you have to respect that they like what they do just like you like Relapse. It's just a lotta what you say don't add up he has been personal from day 1 from the first album. He said himself he writes to get what he goes through of his chest in a sense that it's like therapy releasing all his troubles and with his pen and he said many people have been through what he has so he knows they relate. These are all words outta his mouth.

If you would read a post above you, you would see that I said I don't hate his emotional content AT ALL. In fact, that's where most of his classic material is. But an emotional Eminem TODAY...isn't for me. I am afraid everytime he spits an emotional verse from now on it'll be corny like Lighters. The Eminem Show is my favorite Eminem album so don't act like I don't lol. I enjoy all of his albums for different reasons.

My list goes like this, actually. Best to worst, not favorites:
The Eminem Show
The Marshall Mathers LP
Hell: The Sequel (he was honestly a better rapper on this than on Recovery)
Recovery
The Slim Shady LP/Relapse
Encore
Infinite

Recovery is a GREAT album and a better one than Relapse is, as a whole collection of songs and body of work...but Relapse has SOMETHING that makes me love it.

And my favorites list:
The Eminem Show
Relapse
Hell: The Sequel
Recovery
The Marshall Mathers LP
The Slim Shady LP
Encore
Infinite

So don't act like I don't like Recovery lmao. I like it even better the MMLP and SSLP. I listen to it more...

I just want his next album to sound like Relapse but have him rapping about different subjects, obviously.

[Relapse.]

Revolutionary's first post is exactly what em should do. Search for the fountain of youth and shit.