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Eminem is gay, and there's plenty of evidence in his music.

Postby adeem » Nov 30th, '12, 17:05

First of all, Eminem is demonstrably not homophobic, though maybe some lyrics suggest it.
Remember this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el0x9-1j7lo
Admittedly, Eminem storming out makes him look homophobic.
But...
It later came out (no pun intended) that Eminem was in on the prank. Think about the homophobes you've met. Think about how many would let a man drop from the ceiling and put bare ass cheeks in their face for the sake of a joke. None. Ergo Eminem is not a homophobe.
But we already knew that. We'd just forgotten.
Remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2p7oE7Bpw
Yeah, what homophobe would take the stage with Elton John? It's not like this was arranged and the end of the relationship. The two are close friends. Eminem recently said Elton calls him once a week. Em says when he decided to finally get clean he called Elton first for help. Tight friends. Homophobes aren't tight friends with homosexual icons.
After all, this: http://www.showbizspy.com/article/22572 ... esent.html
But I guess just because he goes along with gay pranks and has gay friends doesn't mean he necessarily believes in equality. Except for when he said he supports gay marriage.
Of course, he didn't phrase it like that. He phrased it like Eminem. If I remember right, he says, "I think everyone should be allowed to be equally miserable."
I bet the amount of rappers from 8 Mile with a progressive attitude like that (even hidden under miles of sarcasm) is pretty ... slim (pun intended). It's almost like he knows something about what that particular brand of oppression is about.
Eminem's arc is also weird. He got famous but then disappeared. He vanished into a drug addicted haze. But most musicians do their drugs on the road. Slim vanished into his mansion, barely seen for years, abusing Ambien, erasing huge chunks of his memory. It's almost like he felt that people on the road . . . the people in his life . . .couldn't accept him. But they accepted him as a gangster, a white boy, and a rapper. So what were they rejecting?
Now at this point, all you can really say is that he is decidedly progressive on the issue of homosexuality, no matter how you view his method of expressing that. The drug addiction hints at some deep secret. No telling what. Maybe he just struggles with fame. But buried in his music, I find little hints that there's another side of Eminem. Maybe one that even he rejects.
First, even the Inception like nature of his personalities suggests something off. Ok so Marshall Mathers is the real person, and his stage persona is Eminem. That's fine, everyone has a rap name. But then there's another personality, Slim Shady. That personality is prominent in the song "My Name Is . . . " introducing to the world that this persona's name is not Eminem as it says on the record, but instead, Slim Shady.
Slim Shady has this to say... "Well, since age 12, I've felt like I'm someone else Cause I hung my original self from the top bunk with a belt."
So he hits puberty, can't stomach the real him, and kills him off?
Hmmmmmmm...
The lyric continues ... "Got pissed off, ripped Pamela Lee's tits off and smacked her so hard knocked her clothes backwards like Kriss Kross"
Again, hits puberty, takes the hetero sex symbol of the day, rips off a symbol of her womanhood and hits her with it. That sounds like he's frustrated with his sexuality to me.
But maybe I'm just looking too far into that one.
The next exhibit is the thematic element of Eminem's hatred for his wife. It really seems to go much deeper than ex-wife drama. He talks about her like his biggest mistake in life. Curious.
I'm going to wrap it up with the crown jewel of my argument. "The Real Slim Shady" which I believe to be mostly about Eminem veiling his sexuality.
Lets just look at this chunk of the first verse.
"Feminist women love Eminem"
Let's be real, we both know feminist women love gays. (EDIT: I'm making a joke here, but people aren't getting it. This line is not really a staple of my analysis)
"Slim Shady, I'm sick of him Look at him, walkin around grabbin his you-know-what Flippin the you-know-who," "Yeah, but he's so cute though!"
Women are sick of Slim Shady. They love Eminem. They don't like the fake version of him. They like "the real Slim Shady."
"Yeah, I probably got a couple of screws up in my head loose But no worse, than what's goin on in your parents' bedrooms"
He's saying sure, maybe he is different, but it's no worse than your parents sex lives. Sure seems like he's comparing his sexual desires to theirs. Like people shame his, but there's really nothing wrong with it.
"Sometimes, I wanna get on TV and just let loose, but can't but it's cool for Tom Green to hump a dead moose"
He wants to get on tv and admit his sexual desires, but social taboos prevent it. This disgusts him, because while he can't say that he wants to have sex with men, Tom Green can hump animal carcasses.
"My bum is on your lips, my bum is on your lips" And if I'm lucky, you might just give it a little kiss And that's the message that we deliver to little kids And expect them not to know what a woman's clitoris is Of course they gonna know what intercourse is By the time they hit fourth grade They got the Discovery Channel don't they? "We ain't nothing but mammals.." Well, some of us cannibals who cut other people open like cantaloupes [SLURP]"
This bit seems to be about kids not knowing themselves sexually. Like maybe he was told he just didn't understand sex yet, but he felt he understood it just fine, if differently.
"But if we can hump dead animals and antelopes then there's no reason that a man and another man can't elope"
Just look at this line. This is the genesis of much of my theory. This line states as plainly as possible that he just doesn't get why it's not ok for men to marry in light of all of the other sexual differences we tolerate. I contend he throws the "Eww" sound effect in there to disguise it, but I think it's honest.
"[EWWW!] But if you feel like I feel, I got the antidote Women wave your pantyhose, sing the chorus and it goes"
Under the traitional analysis of this song, you would assume the antidote to men eloping with other men is . . . women waving their pantyhose and singing the chorus about being your real self?
No . . . he's saying the antidote to homophobia is letting lose and acknowledging the real self. He's the real Slim Shady. The Slim Shady that doesn't get what's wrong with two men marrying. That's the real Slim Shady. All the other Slim Shady's are just imitating.
The song concludes with . . .
"Ha ha Guess there's a Slim Shady in all of us Fuck it, let's all stand up "
Stand up . . . for gay rights. (EDIT: Again, this is mostly sarcasm)
In conclusion, I think each one of these arguments independently would be a weak case for having insight into someone's gender. But together, they make quite a coincidence. Perhaps, even an argument.
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Postby Fa-Q » Nov 30th, '12, 17:31

Can you please separate paragraphs?! Christ, you're so scatter-brained. Let me tell you something, dude, guys poke fun about homosexuality. Once you know you're NOT gay, it becomes a pretty normal joke to make fun on someone's sexuality.
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Postby UofLCard » Nov 30th, '12, 17:33

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Postby LEVITIKUZ » Nov 30th, '12, 17:36

In other news, I took a major crap on the can. Nearly pluged up the toilet. I also ate Waffles for breakfast. Usually I eat cereal on a weekday but if just felt like a Waffle day. Walked my dog also. Watched some cartoons too. SPONGEBOB is so funny. My favorite color is green by the way.
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Re: Eminem is gay, and there's plenty of evidence in his mus

Postby Francesco » Nov 30th, '12, 17:40

Great job detective! :worship:
Well you're lost & that's a fact but I agree with some of the homies who think this thread is epic. :laughing:
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