8 Realistic Expectations for Em's next album

[Jason M.]

AHA! I'm not the only one who wants fewer songs... There...

[EminemBase]

I hope Em ignores this list and anything anybody is saying, from whatever circle, anywhere, and just makes something he feels is brilliant. Not something he thinks he should make or thinks people want. His music suffers the absolute most when he tires to please others.

Also, I'd hardly say Relapse got a 'pass' from fans. Most people started bashing it immediately; I was in the minority that loved it from the start and do now. Most people started saying the accents were whack and the serial-killing was boring, and then after Recovery start saying they like it because it's cooler to like it than dislike it now. The entire reason we got Recovery was because of that.

I think fewer songs is a good idea though. Not making any comment on content as I don't even want to predict it. I don't just want 'some of these tracks, some of these, some concepts', I want something totally fucking original that I can't define until I hear it. But in terms of less tracks... he often goes for overkill and with his first three it worked; but given that he's long become less sure of himself and listens to others too much, he tries to 'balance' albums now which always results in a few compromises that cluster the album (COUGH "BEAUTIFUL" COUGH "CRACK A BOTTLE") for the sake of a hit or 'balance' (art by committee. Sigh.). Here's to hoping he doesn't listen to anybody.

[Jimmy Conway]

I really don't get the point of fewer songs. No matter how many songs make the final album, Em will still record a certain number of songs. So if Em makes 25 songs for his next album, it doesn't matter how many he puts on there, more than likely we will hear them on a itunes bonus album or an leak.

I want all the songs, so I can decide which ones I like. This isn't 1992 where we are held to the album we buy at the CD store, we can choose what songs we like and put them on our iphone or burn our own cd or whatever. The more songs the more changes we have of getting a good album out of it.

[CanadaPure]

If TRex harms himself in any way I will hunt down Slim Cary. I will shove my cock so far down his throat that he'll throw up. Then I'll sacrifice his virgin soul to my god and savior Tim Allen.

[Jimmy Conway]

If TRex harms himself in any way I will hunt down Slim Cary. I will shove my cock so far down his throat that he'll throw up. Then I'll sacrifice his virgin soul to my god and savior Tim Allen.

That's the hottest thing I've ever heard.....

[CanadaPure]

If TRex harms himself in any way I will hunt down Slim Cary. I will shove my cock so far down his throat that he'll throw up. Then I'll sacrifice his virgin soul to my god and savior Tim Allen.

That's the hottest thing I've ever heard.....

Praise Tim Allen! Arrr arr arrr

[EminemBase]

I really don't get the point of fewer songs. No matter how many songs make the final album, Em will still record a certain number of songs. So if Em makes 25 songs for his next album, it doesn't matter how many he puts on there, more than likely we will hear them on a itunes bonus album or an leak.

I want all the songs, so I can decide which ones I like. This isn't 1992 where we are held to the album we buy at the CD store, we can choose what songs we like and put them on our iphone or burn our own cd or whatever. The more songs the more changes we have of getting a good album out of it.

That's shit though, the album that is PUT OUT is the finite piece of work that cements in most people's minds. Sure you can make up any album you like from the tracks... but that's not the way he intended for you to hear so it's, lesser. That's like taking a bunch of Tarantino scenes and making your own movie; it's cheap, it's not a full piece of work as he intended.

I want a classic album. A body of work that plays start to finish, which is coherent and thought-out. Not a huge selection of random tracks, some shit, some good, no consistency.

[Jimmy Conway]

I really don't get the point of fewer songs. No matter how many songs make the final album, Em will still record a certain number of songs. So if Em makes 25 songs for his next album, it doesn't matter how many he puts on there, more than likely we will hear them on a itunes bonus album or an leak.

I want all the songs, so I can decide which ones I like. This isn't 1992 where we are held to the album we buy at the CD store, we can choose what songs we like and put them on our iphone or burn our own cd or whatever. The more songs the more changes we have of getting a good album out of it.

That's shit though, the album that is PUT OUT is the finite piece of work that cements in most people's minds. Sure you can make up any album you like from the tracks... but that's not the way he intended for you to hear so it's, lesser. That's like taking a bunch of Tarantino scenes and making your own movie; it's cheap, it's not a full piece of work as he intended.

I want a classic album. A body of work that plays start to finish, which is coherent and thought-out. Not a huge selection of random tracks, some shit, some good, no consistency.

You can't really compare a movie with music.


I basically pieced together Relapse. And I love it. I don't have to hear the skits. I don't have to hear shit songs like Crack a bottle and I get to hear awesome songs like buffalo bill and Music Box.

Not once have I thought, this isn't how em released it. I enjoyed putting the best songs into one album.


I have faith that Em will release the best album he knows how to. But if there happens to be extra songs, just in case I like them better than what he gave. Good songs are good, no matter how they get released.

[CanadaPure]

If TRex harms himself in any way I will hunt down Slim Cary. I will shove my cock so far down his throat that he'll throw up. Then I'll sacrifice his virgin soul to my god and savior Tim Allen.

...hun, I've been cutting myself for the last 7 years now.

Motherfucker. Prepare your throat Slim Cary, I'm cumming.

[EminemBase]

I really don't get the point of fewer songs. No matter how many songs make the final album, Em will still record a certain number of songs. So if Em makes 25 songs for his next album, it doesn't matter how many he puts on there, more than likely we will hear them on a itunes bonus album or an leak.

I want all the songs, so I can decide which ones I like. This isn't 1992 where we are held to the album we buy at the CD store, we can choose what songs we like and put them on our iphone or burn our own cd or whatever. The more songs the more changes we have of getting a good album out of it.

That's shit though, the album that is PUT OUT is the finite piece of work that cements in most people's minds. Sure you can make up any album you like from the tracks... but that's not the way he intended for you to hear so it's, lesser. That's like taking a bunch of Tarantino scenes and making your own movie; it's cheap, it's not a full piece of work as he intended.

I want a classic album. A body of work that plays start to finish, which is coherent and thought-out. Not a huge selection of random tracks, some shit, some good, no consistency.

You can't really compare a movie with music.


I basically pieced together Relapse. And I love it. I don't have to hear the skits. I don't have to hear shit songs like Crack a bottle and I get to hear awesome songs like buffalo bill and Music Box.

Not once have I thought, this isn't how em released it. I enjoyed putting the best songs into one album.


I have faith that Em will release the best album he knows how to. But if there happens to be extra songs, just in case I like them better than what he gave. Good songs are good, no matter how they get released.

I think you can though. A good album flows like a movie - it has slow spots, fast spots, drama, comedy; all these different emotions that the artist intends for you to hear in order, as one 'piece'. similar to a movie. Especially with Em.

And the album is put out as one thing, especially again with a rapper from Em's era, with his mindset, he intends for the album to be a singular piece of work that represents something or some set of moods, or some overall picture. So, just knowing that in my head; I find it hard to separate the final collection of tracks he puts out as one, in that order... from the individual tracks - it just feels like it's not proper, like I'm breaking a toy and it's not how it was meant to be...

There's a classic album amongst Relapse and Refill tracks. But Relapse isn't a classic album. Because it's ruined (for me at least) by the final few tracks.

[SoldierShady]

Pretty damn good read. I agree with most of it aside from the fewer songs bit. I'm not saying Em should jump onto the 2Chainz Tuesdays, G.O.O.D Fridays, Sunday Service bandwagon.....but a freestyle, hook/bridge or something once in a while is needed. From a fan's point of view at least. Plus it's lyrical exercise for him as well.

[UofLCard]

Everyone, tweet this to Paul & Royce to try to get them to read it

I hope you are joking. Trshady really thinks twitter is power.

Mhh Paul denied the "Return of slim shady" & "Eminem is christian" rumours, he made Eminem aware of fans down etc.. so twitter is power.

Don't forget that ridiculous "Tha 118" album rumor.

[Jimmy Conway]

I think you can though. A good album flows like a movie - it has slow spots, fast spots, drama, comedy; all these different emotions that the artist intends for you to hear in order, as one 'piece'. similar to a movie. Especially with Em.

And the album is put out as one thing, especially again with a rapper from Em's era, with his mindset, he intends for the album to be a singular piece of work that represents something or some set of moods, or some overall picture. So, just knowing that in my head; I find it hard to separate the final collection of tracks he puts out as one, in that order... from the individual tracks - it just feels like it's not proper, like I'm breaking a toy and it's not how it was meant to be...

There's a classic album amongst Relapse and Refill tracks. But Relapse isn't a classic album. Because it's ruined (for me at least) by the final few tracks.

I get your point, thankfully it doesn't bother me like that. But I see what you're saying. You get excited to get an album the way the artist made it. To sit down and listen to the album start to finish and experience it in that way.

I personally don't care. I would prefer for the album to just be awesome without me having to pluck songs in and out. But I've never listened to an album where I loved every song, that's for any artist. So to have the ability to tweak an album is nice.

[EminemBase]

I think you can though. A good album flows like a movie - it has slow spots, fast spots, drama, comedy; all these different emotions that the artist intends for you to hear in order, as one 'piece'. similar to a movie. Especially with Em.

And the album is put out as one thing, especially again with a rapper from Em's era, with his mindset, he intends for the album to be a singular piece of work that represents something or some set of moods, or some overall picture. So, just knowing that in my head; I find it hard to separate the final collection of tracks he puts out as one, in that order... from the individual tracks - it just feels like it's not proper, like I'm breaking a toy and it's not how it was meant to be...

There's a classic album amongst Relapse and Refill tracks. But Relapse isn't a classic album. Because it's ruined (for me at least) by the final few tracks.

I get your point, thankfully it doesn't bother me like that. But I see what you're saying. You get excited to get an album the way the artist made it. To sit down and listen to the album start to finish and experience it in that way.

I personally don't care. I would prefer for the album to just be awesome without me having to pluck songs in and out. But I've never listened to an album where I loved every song, that's for any artist. So to have the ability to tweak an album is nice.

Yeah, well I've never heard an album where EVERY song is like, majorly awesome too or where I don't think there could be any improvements... but a true classic to me is just like, if it's fully consistent, and it has it's amazing high-points and it's good bits but... say, like, The Eminem Show ; that plays start to finish, goes through highs and lows and finishes on a climax...

That flows like a real piece of work to me, with every song placed and intended to do something at a certain point, and every single song I think feels like it should be there, sonically / stylistically...

So I don't mind every song not being amazing, but on like Relapse, when you have "Beautiful", just fucks up the flow / takes me out of 'the movie' in the same way having say... a totally off-kilter, random out-of-tone scene in a movie would. Like if you had a drama scene in a horror movie, that just felt totally weird and out of place, it would ruin the experience as a whole for me...

I just want it to be totally consistent. If Relapse had ended at "Deja Vu" for me, it'd be a classic. Because man, that album just flows so beautifully and every track sounds like one batch, and it hits different points like The Eminem Show. And it seems a bit ridiculous to say it's not a classic because of a few added tracks, when I could just ignore them, but, I dunno... I just can't seem to get past them in my mind when I think back to the album. Because I always remember them.

[Jimmy Conway]

I think you can though. A good album flows like a movie - it has slow spots, fast spots, drama, comedy; all these different emotions that the artist intends for you to hear in order, as one 'piece'. similar to a movie. Especially with Em.

And the album is put out as one thing, especially again with a rapper from Em's era, with his mindset, he intends for the album to be a singular piece of work that represents something or some set of moods, or some overall picture. So, just knowing that in my head; I find it hard to separate the final collection of tracks he puts out as one, in that order... from the individual tracks - it just feels like it's not proper, like I'm breaking a toy and it's not how it was meant to be...

There's a classic album amongst Relapse and Refill tracks. But Relapse isn't a classic album. Because it's ruined (for me at least) by the final few tracks.

I could be wrong, but I've always thought the label had too much input.
I get your point, thankfully it doesn't bother me like that. But I see what you're saying. You get excited to get an album the way the artist made it. To sit down and listen to the album start to finish and experience it in that way.

I personally don't care. I would prefer for the album to just be awesome without me having to pluck songs in and out. But I've never listened to an album where I loved every song, that's for any artist. So to have the ability to tweak an album is nice.

Yeah, well I've never heard an album where EVERY song is like, majorly awesome too or where I don't think there could be any improvements... but a true classic to me is just like, if it's fully consistent, and it has it's amazing high-points and it's good bits but... say, like, The Eminem Show ; that plays start to finish, goes through highs and lows and finishes on a climax...

That flows like a real piece of work to me, with every song placed and intended to do something at a certain point, and every single song I think feels like it should be there, sonically / stylistically...

So I don't mind every song not being amazing, but on like Relapse, when you have "Beautiful", just fucks up the flow / takes me out of 'the movie' in the same way having say... a totally off-kilter, random out-of-tone scene in a movie would. Like if you had a drama scene in a horror movie, that just felt totally weird and out of place, it would ruin the experience as a whole for me...

I just want it to be totally consistent. If Relapse had ended at "Deja Vu" for me, it'd be a classic. Because man, that album just flows so beautifully and every track sounds like one batch, and it hits different points like The Eminem Show. And it seems a bit ridiculous to say it's not a classic because of a few added tracks, when I could just ignore them, but, I dunno... I just can't seem to get past them in my mind when I think back to the album. Because I always remember them.

I think that's label influence. Put Beautiful, have to have the sad emotional personal Em so people can relate. Put Crack a bottle, have to have the club hit. Put We made you, have to have something for MTV.