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Postby Slim Fiasco » Jan 12th, '13, 10:56

I feel that out of all the great rappers with nothing left to prove, it's Em that still enjoys the shit out of it the most. Sure, the outcome has been shitty for my standards, but I do get that from Em, like, he spends a lot of time in the studio and I'm sure he's rapping his ass off just for the fun of it.

A lot of rappers tend to fall off, and I think it has to do with not practicing i.e. working at it enough. If you take basketball for example, if you don't touch a ball in a month you'll pretty much suck. It's not like you can lose it but it does take more constant work than rapping. What I think happens with many of them, is they get in a comfort zone and don't feel the need to practice, so they remain at that same level.

If you look at Nas, who's been saying that he's in a great zone, I think it's because that core love for rapping has gotten back into him and it fucking shows. He sounds better than on anything he did since Stillmatic.

And it's surprising how you work for something so hard, meaning becoming a great and respected artist, and then you just let it sit there. It's like saving for a Ferrari for 5 years, and then buy it but drive it only for a week.

In the Art Of Rap documentary (which I'm about to rewatch), it was Em who showed the most genuine appreciation and love for the art (along with Kanye). You could feel the passion when he was rapping Treach's lines. And on that note, what unifies Kanye and Em is the passion. They're the most (constantly) passionate rappers that I know of, at least the ones doing it on that stage and level, where you can easily get caught up in all the fame and money. Look at Hopsin, he's been showing disappointment and lack of motivation, and he's barely been through the "forces" of the music industry and massive attention.

And that is why I think Em and Kanye fans should be more appreciative of the two artists, instead of being in dispute all the time.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby SoldierShady » Jan 12th, '13, 12:02

Yep, Eminem news is dry as fuck round hurr.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby LK5 » Jan 12th, '13, 13:07

Eminem wrote:It shouldn't be difficult to explain
Just why you came back again, you hate the fame
Love the game


But I don't think Kanye has much passion
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby EminemBase » Jan 12th, '13, 13:44

Yep, regardless of what you think of how good he was, is or has remained... nobody can deny he keeps trying his ass off to rap, his ass off.

If you look at like Relapse; what other rapper, apart from underground rappers, are even bothering to try and rap ANYWHERE NEAR that kind of level at that stage in their career. 90% don't try at the start of their career let alone 10 years deep in the mainstream.

He definitely deserves more credit for keeping up a level of effort, and it's part of what makes him exciting to follow; not knowing if and how he'll blow your mind with his next style or set of flows. And both Relapse and Recovery blew my mind at the time.

I remember hearing Relapse like "wow, wtf is this, this is amazing" and then the first time I played "Cold Wind Blows", and "Almost Famous", I was very impressed and knocked-out, it was something I hadn't heard before and on the first time of hearing it, it sounded almost subhuman. Obviously, you then get used to it, but on first impression it was pretty amazing.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Slim Fiasco » Jan 12th, '13, 14:09

EminemBase wrote:Yep, regardless of what you think of how good he was, is or has remained... nobody can deny he keeps trying his ass off to rap, his ass off.

If you look at like Relapse; what other rapper, apart from underground rappers, are even bothering to try and rap ANYWHERE NEAR that kind of level at that stage in their career. 90% don't try at the start of their career let alone 10 years deep in the mainstream.

He definitely deserves more credit for keeping up a level of effort, and it's part of what makes him exciting to follow; not knowing if and how he'll blow your mind with his next style or set of flows. And both Relapse and Recovery blew my mind at the time.

I remember hearing Relapse like "wow, wtf is this, this is amazing" and then the first time I played "Cold Wind Blows", and "Almost Famous", I was very impressed and knocked-out, it was something I hadn't heard before and on the first time of hearing it, it sounded almost subhuman. Obviously, you then get used to it, but on first impression it was pretty amazing.


Exactly, that's why even if I don't necessarily like the music, I still have lots of respect for the effort that he puts in. And in all honestly, I did love Recovery for that first month, in fact I played the shit out if it.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby momentsgolden » Jan 12th, '13, 15:21

I agree that at least on a mainstream level he has maintained that passion for music and few people do. T.i, Ludacris, Jay Z, Andre 3000, LL Cool J, 50 Cent, Nelly.... the list of rappers who have approached different avenues for money is huge.

On an underground level though it jus seems to be the case that they are much more consistent. Maybe they need the money more, maybe they are not under mainstream pressure but people like Tech n9ne, Alchemist and Joe Budden have been doing this for years and still seem motivated to succeed.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Eminemeatinm&m » Jan 12th, '13, 15:26

Slim Fiasco n mA HomeboY Eminembase yo know lot of shiat by dem boys that rap
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby EmTV » Jan 12th, '13, 15:40

Eminemeatinm&m wrote:Slim Fiasco n mA HomeboY Eminembase yo know lot of shiat by dem boys that rap


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Postby Eminemeatinm&m » Jan 12th, '13, 16:34

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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Jimmy Conway » Jan 12th, '13, 19:42

He does have the best sixth album ever made. Or at least I can think of. Most artists don't get to release six albums and the ones that do are complete trash. But why wouldn't he try? he gets paid millions for it and people love him and it's awesome. Once it's over, it's over. So he wants to keep it going as long as he can.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Elision » Jan 12th, '13, 20:30

Slim Fiasco wrote:I feel that out of all the great rappers with nothing left to prove, it's Em that still enjoys the shit out of it the most. Sure, the outcome has been shitty for my standards, but I do get that from Em, like, he spends a lot of time in the studio and I'm sure he's rapping his ass off just for the fun of it.
There's a ton of artists who rap for the fun of rapping. But what I don't understand is what makes you think Eminem is currently even on that list. You're saying Em "spends a lot of time in the studio" etc. But how often do we even hear a verse from the dude? Every other artist who lives in the studio is constantly producing material. Whereas with Em? well frankly we never see material. I don't think the dude puts in nearly as much studio time as many people here would like to believe. And even if he did, he doesn't seem to be very busy in there at all.
EminemBase wrote: what other rapper, apart from underground rappers, are even bothering to try and rap ANYWHERE NEAR that kind of level at that stage in their career.
You're limiting it to such a small minority of artists when you're only referring to mainstream. And not only that, but we're talking the worst of the worst. Even a lot of TR's artists would shit on most mainstream acts without even really trying.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Elision » Jan 12th, '13, 20:35

Miller wrote:
Elision wrote:
Slim Fiasco wrote:I feel that out of all the great rappers with nothing left to prove, it's Em that still enjoys the shit out of it the most. Sure, the outcome has been shitty for my standards, but I do get that from Em, like, he spends a lot of time in the studio and I'm sure he's rapping his ass off just for the fun of it.
There's a ton of artists who rap for the fun of rapping. But what I don't understand is what makes you think Eminem is currently even on that list. You're saying Em "spends a lot of time in the studio" etc. But how often do we even hear a verse from the dude? Every other artist who lives in the studio is constantly producing material. Whereas with Em? well frankly we never see material. I don't think the dude puts in nearly as much studio time as many people here would like to believe. And even if he did, he doesn't seem to be very busy in there at all.

Because he only puts out stuff he thinks is worth putting out and he's extremely happy with it. (well at least solo material)
Okay so why not make stuff he's happy with? After this long in there you'd imagine something would sprout
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Elision » Jan 12th, '13, 20:42

Miller wrote:
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Miller wrote:Because he only puts out stuff he thinks is worth putting out and he's extremely happy with it. (well at least solo material)
Okay so why not make stuff he's happy with? After this long in there you'd imagine something would sprout

Busy perfecting the album and making crap for Rhianna, Pink and Skylar? I dont know.
Perfecting the album that we've heard absolutely nothing about? So far this album remains at mythical status along with detox. Of course, we have more info on Detox, but that's my point. And don't pull the "Eminem works in mysterious ways" card because there's always tons of album hype through interscope.
EminemBase wrote:He definitely deserves more credit for keeping up a level of effort, and it's part of what makes him exciting to follow; not knowing if and how he'll blow your mind
If he was someone who truly kept up the effort, you would know that he's going to blow your mind no matter what. The fact that he's released sub-par material in recent history should not be swept under the rug. It's reason for genuine concern. And there's no level of effort being kept up if it's been over a year since we've heard it. It's a level of effort that once was.
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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Accor » Jan 12th, '13, 20:59

Slim Cary wrote:He does have the best sixth album ever made. Or at least I can think of. Most artists don't get to release six albums and the ones that do are complete trash. But why wouldn't he try? he gets paid millions for it and people love him and it's awesome. Once it's over, it's over. So he wants to keep it going as long as he can.


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Re: Em's Dedication To Rapping

Postby Emadyville » Jan 12th, '13, 21:29

maybe so but i still fuckin hate kanye
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