Rihanna Talks "Numb"

[BumShiv]

They fucked

[Kill You]

It's so obvious that the song isn't meant to be taken seriously lmao. It's funny, Em makes a non-serious song people say he's trash and fell off. Another rapper makes a non-serious song and it's okay because that's not what they were aiming for...so you're saying Em can't aim for silly too? Fuck outta here.

[babyjane]

Please stop with the 'this song isn't meant to be taken seriously' crap whenever Em does a bad verse or song. He's managed to do plenty of non-serious, silly songs and still give a great verse without corny punch lines and embarrassing lines like butt police rear, rear, rear. It's just not good, seriousness or lack thereof has nothing to do with it.

[Kill You]

Please stop with the 'this song isn't meant to be taken seriously' crap whenever Em does a bad verse or song. He's managed to do plenty of non-serious, silly songs and still give a great verse without corny punch lines and embarrassing lines like butt police rear, rear, rear. It's just not good, seriousness or lack thereof has nothing to do with it.

But it's not. The argument I was bringing forward is that when other artists bring lackluster verses it's okay because the songs aren't meant to be taken serious but when Em does it it's a problem. It's okay for Lil Wayne to spit a verse FULL of corny as fuck punchlines but Em says one corny punchline and it ruins a whole verse for some people and it's ridiculous. Change your fucking tampon.

[SliK]

I think Em's flow on numb is great, he sounds awesome. Especially after the butt police line. I just wish the song was better.

[Trimss]

Please stop with the 'this song isn't meant to be taken seriously' crap whenever Em does a bad verse or song. He's managed to do plenty of non-serious, silly songs and still give a great verse without corny punch lines and embarrassing lines like butt police rear, rear, rear. It's just not good, seriousness or lack thereof has nothing to do with it.

But it's not. The argument I was bringing forward is that when other artists bring lackluster verses it's okay because the songs aren't meant to be taken serious but when Em does it it's a problem. It's okay for Lil Wayne to spit a verse FULL of corny as fuck punchlines but Em says one corny punchline and it ruins a whole verse for some people and it's ridiculous. Change your fucking tampon.

It's NOT okay for Lil Wayne to spit a verse full of corny shit, why do you think people hate on him? Come on.

[babyjane]

Please stop with the 'this song isn't meant to be taken seriously' crap whenever Em does a bad verse or song. He's managed to do plenty of non-serious, silly songs and still give a great verse without corny punch lines and embarrassing lines like butt police rear, rear, rear. It's just not good, seriousness or lack thereof has nothing to do with it.

But it's not. The argument I was bringing forward is that when other artists bring lackluster verses it's okay because the songs aren't meant to be taken serious but when Em does it it's a problem. It's okay for Lil Wayne to spit a verse FULL of corny as fuck punchlines but Em says one corny punchline and it ruins a whole verse for some people and it's ridiculous. Change your fucking tampon.

Change your tampon What are you 12? Why the hell would you compare garbage like Lil Wayne to Eminem? People don't hold those other rappers in the same regard as Eminem. Eminem is on a whole nother level. He's been called the greatest, one of the best of all time, the biggest selling rapper ever. He's earned being held to a higher standard than average rappers.

[Solace]

Please stop with the 'this song isn't meant to be taken seriously' crap whenever Em does a bad verse or song. He's managed to do plenty of non-serious, silly songs and still give a great verse without corny punch lines and embarrassing lines like butt police rear, rear, rear. It's just not good, seriousness or lack thereof has nothing to do with it.

But it's not. The argument I was bringing forward is that when other artists bring lackluster verses it's okay because the songs aren't meant to be taken serious but when Em does it it's a problem. It's okay for Lil Wayne to spit a verse FULL of corny as fuck punchlines but Em says one corny punchline and it ruins a whole verse for some people and it's ridiculous. Change your fucking tampon.

Yeah, as babyjane said, Eminem shouldn't be judged on the same level as Lil Wayne. That's why. Of course Eminem fans who used to think Eminem was the greatest emcee of all time, who was capable of dropping constant jaw dropping verses are going to critique his work on a much more intense scale than Lil Wayne. Just because other shitty artists can drop shitty work does not mean Eminem can drop shitty work and have it be excused by everyone.

[Koolo2010]

She will be in his new album...take notes...

[Snakebeast]

What I don't understand is how this Em verse is discarded as trash when Mr. Fish Filet gets props for lines like "Lamborghini Mercy, your chick she so thirsty" At least Em had a smooth and tight flow for the last 15 seconds.

[Solace]

Mr. Fish Filet

Lmfao

[Snakebeast]

Amadeo, Em has been bending words since the start of his career.

[Eedee]

I enjoyed Numb for what it was: a filler track where Em can just experiment and spaz out on. And he certainly did. His flow was fucking insane and had good rhyming. I can appreciate it for that.

[Snakebeast]

Amadeo, Em has been bending words since the start of his career.

That right there illustrates Eminem's mindset in those days. He was in no mood to try to bend words. He wrote down some rhymes that only worked with alternate dialects, but when he went into the booth, he wanted to be completely into the content of what he was saying to deliver the lines as a voice actor, as opposed to trying to emphasize any bent rhymes he had in there.

When it comes to Eminem's rhyming technique, a lot of people claim Eminem alters the pronunciation of words in songs to make them sound more like rhymes, but until his post-2002 songs, that was VERY rarely the case.

Eminem hardly ever changed the pronunciation of a word from how he normally would pronounce it in the actual delivery. Examples of him NOT doing it:

What's this bitch retarded/Give me back my 16 dollars
If I could swallow a bottle of Tylenol I would/And end it for good, just say goodbye to Hollywood
Or stole my seat in the lunch room and drank my chocolate milk/Every time you tipped my tray and it dropped and spilt
Please don't let me be pigeon-holed in no regular job/Yo, I hope you can hear me homie, wherever you are/Yo I'm tellin you dog, I'm bailin this trailer tomorrow

In Eminem's head when he's writing the lines, he's hearing certain syllables pronounced differently in a different dialect (bitch re-taw-ded/16 daw-luhs), (Tylenol I would/bye to Hawl-y-wood), (chah-clate milk/dropped and spilt), (regula jawb/eva ya aw/tellin ya dawg/treh-la tom-aw), but in the actual song, he's using his own dialect and focusing on the "voice acting" part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7T5bm3Pejg

And not only that, what exactly about bending words makes you cringe? He bent words in Relapse, forwards, backwards, sideways.

[Snakebeast]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7T5bm3Pejg

And not only that, what exactly about bending words makes you cringe? He bent words in Relapse, forwards, backwards, sideways.

How unnatural/forced it sounds is what makes me cringe. When Eminem raps stuff like "you think this is some Nuuuun-tendo game, how fucking dumb is you?" it sounds stupid as fuck. Just pronounce words how you'd normally pronounce them.

And yeah, I'm aware he bent words ridiculously on Relapse...but at least he was rhyming a lot on that album and his bars were even most of the time.

Don't know bout you, but I like the fact that Em is doing something new with the whole screaming flow. He rhymes a fuckload on My Life as well. Unnatural and forced? It sounds pretty damn catchy to me.