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Lashing out against fans

Postby Hopsinshadie » Feb 21st, '13, 16:59

No doubt, over the last 36 months, Eminem has inhaled plenty of flack from the hip hop demographic. And he's cognizant of it. Let's not sit here and pretend Recovery was even close to Vintage Eminem. Eminem will always have high criteria he will need to live up to. But this has all culminated into a blessing in disguise. Eminem is not always going to have stans who stick by him through thick and thin. Nor should he.

The best thing Em can do, is to make an introspective album, based on his decision to lash out against his old fans who weren't with him through thick and thin. And the beauty of an introspective concept like this, is the fact that Eminem really is pissed off at his fair weather fans. So none of it would be forced. This is what Eminem needs to do if he is ever to make a comeback. It's truly his best shot. It's fresh. It's real. And it would rekindle Eminem's true legacy while, preserving real hip hop as we know it. Or he can rap about being a Christian, which all of us unequivocally won't endure.

The more I thought about this, the more I realized that this would be Eminem's ideal route to take. I can't see him doing anything else tbh. I'm not suggesting that the whole album should be comprised of this concept. But the core of it should be. Furthermore, we would admire any other filler songs on the album, simply because they would presumingly have had to have been recorded while he was in Beast mode. This album is a 'Must Win' for Eminem. Sales mean nothing to true MC's. If he really does know or care about what goes on outside of his little bubble, he is going to have to step it up. And he's going to have to immerse himself if he wants to be great.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Kill You » Feb 21st, '13, 17:03

No, I want him to rap about beating sluts and bashing fags.

And for the record, if you want him to go outside of "his little bubble" then making introspective records isn't the right way to do it LMAO. It would be the opposite. Relapse was him getting out of his bubble and rapping about stories instead of himself. He immersed himself in his Relapse character and look what happened...so he went back to writing songs bitching about his life...if that's your definition of "out of the bubble" then you, sir, are a very confused individual. If you want him out of his bubble the first thing he has to do is NOT RAP ABOUT HIMSELF. Make up stories, get creative. I don't wanna hear him bitching about his life for the umpteenth time. Jeez.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby tadpole25 » Feb 21st, '13, 17:27

yes, if recovery were released in 2000, it would be just bizarre and wierd. recovery is something that did well in 2010 because it was something people were ready for in 2010. not because it was any better than MMLP.

but if MMLP were released for the first time today, it would probably be really out of place.

so i think each eminem album that was released was fit for the era it was released in (with exception to relapse, which was basically niche marketing)
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby SoldierShady » Feb 21st, '13, 18:34

bigray wrote:If MMLP was released today it would make todays albums look out of place not the MMLP and would probably have more of an impact than it did in the past.

Lol. Oh yeah. Bashing fags and lesbians in 2013 would create SO much controversy.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Blu » Feb 21st, '13, 18:36

"Cognizant"

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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Feb 21st, '13, 19:25

No.
I wanted an album so rugged nobody could touch it.
Spent a million a track and went over my budget.
Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
I can't rap anymore, I just murdered the alphabet.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Hopsinshadie » Feb 21st, '13, 23:37

Kill You wrote:No, I want him to rap about beating sluts and bashing fags.

And for the record, if you want him to go outside of "his little bubble" then making introspective records isn't the right way to do it LMAO. It would be the opposite. Relapse was him getting out of his bubble and rapping about stories instead of himself. He immersed himself in his Relapse character and look what happened...so he went back to writing songs bitching about his life...if that's your definition of "out of the bubble" then you, sir, are a very confused individual. If you want him out of his bubble the first thing he has to do is NOT RAP ABOUT HIMSELF. Make up stories, get creative. I don't wanna hear him bitching about his life for the umpteenth time. Jeez.



I see what you're saying. Let me explain. Eminem immersed himself in Relapse, but I felt that he only did it half way. He wasn't really rapping about just his life, he was sort of making fun of the drugs and everything else. He was in no condition to go all out in Relapse. He played a persona, but wasn't being real. My Mom and songs like that were exemplary of him trying to rap about the same thing from a different angle.

But at this point in time, he has reason to lash out against fans. I hate to say it, but the guy is better when he's cocky, and pissing people off. MMLP/TES hybrid is the model he should aim for. And he can't bash fags anymore because there has been a huge boom in the LGBT community. For a 40 year old man, that would be uncalled for.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Kill You » Feb 22nd, '13, 00:02

I hope he does take shots at the fans on his album. Not a bad one like "fuck the fans" or anything like that but he could maybe abuse a few fans in his lyrics as subliminal shots.

Also, just to be clear, I wasn't serious with my bashing fags line. I do expect him to bash women and not focus so much on gays.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby SoldierShady » Feb 22nd, '13, 00:36

Kill You wrote:I do expect him to bash women and not focus so much on gays.

Is there something you'd like to tell us buddy? :shifty:
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Kill You » Feb 22nd, '13, 01:16

SoldierShady wrote:
Kill You wrote:I do expect him to bash women and not focus so much on gays.

Is there something you'd like to tell us buddy? :shifty:


Yes, that I do expect him to bash women and focus so much on gays...lol. I don't care if he bashes gays or not. Nice little joke though. :p
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Insidious91 » Feb 22nd, '13, 01:50

If he can make songs on the same level as Must Be the Ganja on his next album I'll be extremely satisfied with it. That is all.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Inkredible » Feb 22nd, '13, 07:15

lol @ the people who want Em to rap about beating sluts and bashing fags. The man is fucking 40 years old, nobody wants to hear that shit.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby the real slim shady » Feb 23rd, '13, 00:24

He could rap about anything, but if he does it with passion and its convincing, it will make for good music. Any time Em makes a track with passion in it, it turns out well. Dunno about him rapping like that about his fans, maybe about people in his past or just the people who have been saying he has fell off. Thats not enough for a whole album though, only a few tracks.
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Re: Lashing out against fans

Postby Kill You » Feb 23rd, '13, 16:46

Inkredible wrote:lol @ the people who want Em to rap about beating sluts and bashing fags. The man is fucking 40 years old, nobody wants to hear that shit.


Lol at the people who take jokes seriously. You're on an Eminem site with Eminem fans and you can't even tell the difference between sarcasm and seriousness. Obviously we all want him to rap about new things like we've been saying the entire time we've been waiting for the album. :shakehead:

If you want Eminem to completely not bash sluts or fags then you ARE going to be disappointed. He will say the words "slut/bitch/faggot/cunt" on his next album almost 100%.

I answer you because I'm the only one who said this so I'm assuming it's really to me. So in reality you should have said "Lol @ Kill You" because I'm the only one who jokes about him doing that in his new music. In this thread and others. I say it to piss off people like Hopsinshadie and Aftermathers when she was here. Clearly it pisses off people like yourself as well.

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